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Rick Dipper wrote:
My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........


Yup.

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Rick Dipper
 
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Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:14:40 GMT, Rick Dipper
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Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ?


Magnetic clamp-on drillpress. Any steel erector will have one, or you
can hire them.

Or a plasma cutter. Or an oxy-acetylene cutter.

Or a _SLOW_ heavyweight handheld drill, like the one I use for timber
framing. A normal drill would do it too (1" isn't really big), but if
it snatches it'll have your wrist off. You might borrow such a drill
from a plasterer, as they're most commonly used for mixing.

You could even do it by hand. It's not that big a hole.
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You could even do it by hand. It's not that big a hole.


You are IMM and I claim my £5.


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Rick Dipper wrote:
The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........


A few blobs of weld instead? Or is it meant to go on the tooth edge?

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:14:40 GMT, Rick Dipper
wrote:

Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


Mark the circle, then drill multiple holes around the circumference
with a small drill. Knock out centre. File smooth.

MM
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message


You could even do it by hand. It's not that big a hole.


You are IMM and I claim my £5.



Nah, DIMM would have insisted the OP drill 2 x 0.7" holes in case one
failed.... a "win win situation".

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"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
...
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by starrett and
others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened then you need flame or
spark erosion or plasma.

mrcheerful


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RichardS wrote:

Nah, DIMM would have insisted the OP drill 2 x 0.7" holes in case one
failed.... a "win win situation".


ROFL!

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"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
...
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick



Drill press / slow speed / 1" blacksmiths drill and cutting fluid .. would
help to pilot hole with a smaller bit to start

http://www.dm-tools.co.uk

and search for FAIBSD1

1 inch hole isn't big ..... ;-) ...




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Richard
 
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Whenever one drills metal with whatever size bits the one thing to remember
is to use a cutting fluid. The rate of cut, even with a drill running at low
speed, far exceeds that of a drill used dry. You will also extend the life
of the drill bit by a fair margin because it will cut properly instead of
skidding round and wearing it's way through. It is very satisfying to see
two spirals of swarf formed by a properly set up drill.

Richard.

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"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
...
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick




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Rick Dipper wrote:
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half
inch steel plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't
touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach
a towball so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........


As MM says, mark out a circle and drill holes around that, possibly
using 1/8" first then 3/16 to join ring of holes. Knock out the
centre, clean with 1/2 found file until your tow hook fits.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting
it ?


I doubt it will be hard, although the cutting edge of the bucket
may be hard on one face. Test it by trying to scratch it with a
bit or a file. If it will scratch (is not "file hard"), you can
drill it.

The core drill sounds like what I need.


Hmm.


J.B.
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:47:27 GMT, "mrcheerful
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"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
.. .
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by starrett and
others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened then you need flame or
spark erosion or plasma.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting it ?
The core drill sounds like what I need.

Thanks
Rick

mrcheerful


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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:07:27 GMT, Rick Dipper wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:47:27 GMT, "mrcheerful
." wrote:


"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
. ..
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by starrett and
others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened then you need flame or
spark erosion or plasma.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting it ?

Try a small, cheap (expendable) drill

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Rick Dipper wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:47:27 GMT, "mrcheerful
." wrote:


"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
. ..
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by starrett and
others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened then you need flame or
spark erosion or plasma.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting it ?
The core drill sounds like what I need.


Whatever, you need to run it at the appropriate rim speed, or you will
RAPIDLY blunt the saw.
A normal mains drill will be a bit fast.

Personally, I'd get a 10mm bit, and drill a ring of holes.


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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ian Stirling wrote:

Rick Dipper wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:47:27 GMT, "mrcheerful
." wrote:


"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
...
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch
steel plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job
....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a
towball so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and
take it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick

If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by
starrett and others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened
then you need flame or spark erosion or plasma.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting it
? The core drill sounds like what I need.


Whatever, you need to run it at the appropriate rim speed, or you will
RAPIDLY blunt the saw.
A normal mains drill will be a bit fast.

Personally, I'd get a 10mm bit, and drill a ring of holes.


How heavy is the trailer? If it's not too heavy, could you rig up some way
of *clamping* a towball onto the edge of the bucket (maybe bolting it onto a
dropper plate first to give more area) rather than having to drill the
bucket?

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In article ,
Rick Dipper wrote:
If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by starrett
and others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened then you need
flame or spark erosion or plasma.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting it ?
The core drill sounds like what I need.


You'll also need the power drill to go with it. And they're not cheap.

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:19:42 +0100, "Set Square"
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ian Stirling wrote:

Rick Dipper wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:47:27 GMT, "mrcheerful
." wrote:


"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
...
Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch
steel plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job
....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a
towball so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and
take it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick

If it is mild steel then use a tubular hss core drill, made by
starrett and others. screfix sell them too. if it is hardened
then you need flame or spark erosion or plasma.


How do I tell if its hardened without buying a drill and blunting it
? The core drill sounds like what I need.


Whatever, you need to run it at the appropriate rim speed, or you will
RAPIDLY blunt the saw.
A normal mains drill will be a bit fast.

Personally, I'd get a 10mm bit, and drill a ring of holes.


How heavy is the trailer? If it's not too heavy, could you rig up some way
of *clamping* a towball onto the edge of the bucket (maybe bolting it onto a
dropper plate first to give more area) rather than having to drill the
bucket?


Its a 1 tonne max load in the trailer. In the US you can get tow balls
which sit on a spike, so a single hole in the bucket lets me bolt and
unbolt the ball. I don't want it permanent as it gets in the way for
digging. The trailer was fine on the 4x4 but I traded that in for the
bobcat and a 206. The 206 won't tow the trailer up the track, you
loose traction. If I don't do a decent job the trailer will suffer
more damage.

Right now I leave the car down the road in the village, and bobcat up
the track and down into the village to empty the trailer.

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:29:39 +0100, Mike Mitchell
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Mark the circle, then drill multiple holes around the circumference
with a small drill.


Knock out centre.


In 1/2" plate ?

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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:29:39 +0100, Mike Mitchell
wrote:

Mark the circle, then drill multiple holes around the circumference
with a small drill.


Knock out centre.


In 1/2" plate ?


Hacksaw will make short work of joining the holes.


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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:48:38 +0100, Andy Dingley
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:29:39 +0100, Mike Mitchell
wrote:

Mark the circle, then drill multiple holes around the circumference
with a small drill.


Knock out centre.


In 1/2" plate ?


Multiple holes, very close together. What is holding it in after that?
Effectively, swarf, and not much else.

MM
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On 23 Jul 2004 22:43:46 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:29:39 +0100, Mike Mitchell
wrote:

Mark the circle, then drill multiple holes around the circumference
with a small drill.


Knock out centre.


In 1/2" plate ?


Hacksaw will make short work of joining the holes.


Or that, yes.

MM
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:44:37 +0100, Mike Mitchell
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In 1/2" plate ?


Multiple holes, very close together. What is holding it in after that?


You need a certain hole spacing if you're drilling it freehand (or
else you'll run holes into each other and leave a gap) - and if you
have a drill press, just drill the hole anyway.

Knocking these webs out with a skinny chisel gets a bit tiresome in
over 1/4" plate. There's no room to work in the hole, and the plate is
to thick to allow the slug to bend over and give you more space.

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Rick Dipper wrote:

Any ideas on how to drill a 1 inch diameter hole in a half inch steel
plate ? I guess my black&Decker drill woun't touch this job ....

The plate is the bucket of my bobcat, and I want to attach a towball
so I can move my trailer arround with ease ........

My current best option is to take the bucket off the bobcat, and take
it to a lady/man with a proper workshop ........

Rick


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