Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.

http://i.imgur.com/eyvvG.jpg

Jon

On 10/18/2012 11:50 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:
Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.

http://i.imgur.com/eyvvG.jpg

Jon

I've used that exact box and it was a joy to use. You'll love it!

On 10/18/2012 09:58 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 10/18/2012 11:50 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:
Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.

http://i.imgur.com/eyvvG.jpg

Jon

I've used that exact box and it was a joy to use. You'll love it!

Hey thanks Tom, that's good to hear! I'm looking forward to welding
with it to see how it compares with my Miller.

Jon

You are a good man, and totally deserving. We're all happy for you. (Oh, and
by the way, I've got a project for you..... cousin Jon...... )

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.

http://i.imgur.com/eyvvG.jpg

Jon

On 2012-10-19, Jon Danniken wrote:
Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.

http://i.imgur.com/eyvvG.jpg

Jon

This is a very nice little stick welder.

Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Jon

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:50:45 -0700, Jon Danniken
wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.

http://i.imgur.com/eyvvG.jpg

Jon

For $25 you did good!

Just remember thats an AC buzzbox so your rod choices are (slightly)
smaller..but still will do just about anything you want it to
do..including welding aluminum.

Gunner

"The best government is a benevolent tyranny tempered
by an occasional assassination." --Voltaire

On 2012-10-19, Jon Elson wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Stick is still my favorite, and I have both TIG and MIG welders in my
warehouse.

"Ignoramus15542" wrote in message
...
On 2012-10-19, Jon Elson wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Stick is still my favorite, and I have both TIG and MIG welders in my
warehouse.

As a non-welder who is thinking about learning, I am interested in why you
say that.

On 2012-10-24, anorton wrote:

"Ignoramus15542" wrote in message
...
On 2012-10-19, Jon Elson wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Stick is still my favorite, and I have both TIG and MIG welders in my
warehouse.

As a non-welder who is thinking about learning, I am interested in why you
say that.


Number one is, I like the smell, number two is, I feel connected to
the process. Most things that I do, do not warrant TIG process.

On 2012-10-24, Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:05 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote:

Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Jon

So one assumes you dont weld a lot of truck hitches and dozer blade
repairs then?

Probably not eady to get a dozer blade into his basement shop.

i

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:50:29 -0500, Ignoramus15542
wrote:

On 2012-10-19, Jon Elson wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Stick is still my favorite, and I have both TIG and MIG welders in my
warehouse.

I don't do a lot of welding, but having tried good and cheap stick,
cheap and good MIG, and both cheap and good TIG, I much prefer TIG of
the 6. For most things. I wish my little HFT TIG had a pedal-start
HF section. Scratch-start sucks.

--
They must find it difficult,
those who have taken authority as truth,
rather than truth as authority.
-- Gerald Massey, Egyptologist

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:03:34 -0500, Ignoramus15542
wrote:

On 2012-10-24, Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:05 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote:

Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Jon

So one assumes you dont weld a lot of truck hitches and dozer blade
repairs then?

Probably not eady to get a dozer blade into his basement shop.

Hey, a D-9 goes where it wants, buddy. Basement? Not a prob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5m8QH1B2mk

--
They must find it difficult,
those who have taken authority as truth,
rather than truth as authority.
-- Gerald Massey, Egyptologist

anorton wrote:
"Ignoramus15542" wrote in message
...
On 2012-10-19, Jon Elson wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.
Stick is still my favorite, and I have both TIG and MIG welders in my
warehouse.

As a non-welder who is thinking about learning, I am interested in why you
say that.


As someone who has welds quite a bit myself and who has access to all
the above the simple answer is that stick can do some things better and
easier than the other two.

For a first time welder the best thing is to look at what you will be
doing and where you will be doing it. Welding busted machinery out in a
field? Stick Welding decorative metal jewelry? TIG. General shop use on
thinner steel with the occasional 3/8" run? MIG.

MIG and TIG both use shielding gases, Take them out in the open with any
sort of breeze and it gets interesting. No problem with stick (OR shield
core wire in a converted MIG)

My personal preference is my small MIG. It is light enough that you can
move it easily, can be run from a larger generator, I have both MIG and
shield core for it and it will weld from 22 gauge up to 3/8" with a
simple wire change. I have a spool gun for it to do aluminum and stainless.

--
Steve W.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:12:41 -0700, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:03:34 -0500, Ignoramus15542
wrote:

On 2012-10-24, Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:05 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote:

Jon Danniken wrote:

Well it's not the most highly-desired piece of metalworking equipment,
and it's certainly not the biggest bonus per pound, but for $25 -
delivered - I am happy with it.
Ugh! A buzz box. Well, having set up for TIG, I'm never going back
to stick. EVER! The flux fumes just about did me in, even working
outdoors. Also, I couldn't see what the heck I was doing most
of the time. (An auto-dark helmet might have helped with that part.)

But, the joy of doing stick-like jobs in the comfort of my basement shop,
with no fumes, showers of hot sparks and all the mess of stick is
WELL worth it being a bit slower and more than a bit more expensive.

Just my personal opinion.

Jon

So one assumes you dont weld a lot of truck hitches and dozer blade
repairs then?

Probably not eady to get a dozer blade into his basement shop.

i

Then he doesnt do a lot of big rusty metal welding then, one assumes?

Ive got Stick, tig and Mig. My stick machines will burn up to 3/8"
diameter rod. And I use em several times a year.

My MIG machines wil run 300 amps and I use .045 wire with great
regularity on 1/2"+ plate with Co2 as shield gas. I also weld
Aluminum up to 1/2" at 300+ amps with Argon only. Both may require a
couple passes when one gets up to 1/2" or bigger

My TIG will go up to 325 amps..and I seldom ever weld anything over
5/16" because there simply isnt enough machine for it..and rusty
metal? Forget it. Aluminum? I CAN fillet weld 1/2" material using
argon/helium and 1/8" filler. Ive welded steel using the same argon
helium mix...but both aluminum and steel take so many passes and so
much rod...it gets exceptionally expensive to do. Hence...stick for
the big stuff, MIG for the middle sized stuff and tig for the delicate
stuff.

I DO use TIG for cast iron a fair amount however, after preheating
with a nice big rosebud. Something Id rather not do in an enclosed
space, particularly here in the summer.

I did put a nice old Lincoln smog removal machine out in the alley a
couple weeks ago. Worked fine, couldnt find anyone to pay me a few
bucks for it. So the scrappers got it. Shrug. They work very nicely
in basements when working with stick and flux core Mig

Gunner

I thought that the MIG was for spare tire mounts :-)

--
Cheers,
John B.