The semi truck that I own, with the trailer, is now
semi-operational. The only thing that does not work, yet, is the
hydraulic beavertail on the trailer.

We are now using it
You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg

Anyway, my question is about the federal heavy haul tax, form 2290:

Form: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f2290.pdf
Instruction: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i2290.pdf

The law is that owners of heavy vehicles must pay heavy haul
tax. In my case, with a "V" plate, it would be $500 per year.

However, there is a provision that if the truck is expected
to be used less than 5,000 miles per year, then it can be claimed as
"suspended", and I would not owe tax. This comes to using it less than
100 miles per week. As of now, I expect that we will in fact be using
it less than 100 miles a week.

Am I correct in my reading that I can claim it as suspended and submit
the return, but not pay tax? And if, say, I end up using it more than
5,000 miles per year, I can then pay tax? Anyone knows this well
enough?

thanks

i

On 9/23/2012 3:58 PM, Ignoramus11296 wrote:
....

Am I correct in my reading that I can claim it as suspended and submit
the return, but not pay tax? And if, say, I end up using it more than
5,000 miles per year, I can then pay tax? Anyone knows this well
enough?
....

I believe that is so, Igg, but post the question to misc.taxes.moderated
-- there are several pros over there who will research/cite before
posting if don't know otoh...

--

On 9/23/2012 3:58 PM, Ignoramus11296 wrote:
...

Am I correct in my reading that I can claim it as suspended and submit
the return, but not pay tax? And if, say, I end up using it more than
5,000 miles per year, I can then pay tax? Anyone knows this well
enough?
...

You can deal with it either way. Pay the "tax" first then claim a refund
if you don't hit 5K a year. Or file for suspension and pay if you go over.

BUT either way you had better have VERY good documentation. Vehicle
logs, driver logs, fuel reciepts and such to be able to prove the number.

--
Steve W.

On 9/24/2012 1:55 PM, Steve W. wrote:
On 9/23/2012 3:58 PM, Ignoramus11296 wrote:
...
....

BUT either way you had better have VERY good documentation. Vehicle
logs, driver logs, fuel reciepts and such to be able to prove the number.

He's got to keep that anyway for the highway boys and he'll want it for
tax porpoises as well...

--

dpb wrote:
On 9/24/2012 1:55 PM, Steve W. wrote:
On 9/23/2012 3:58 PM, Ignoramus11296 wrote:
...
...

BUT either way you had better have VERY good documentation. Vehicle
logs, driver logs, fuel reciepts and such to be able to prove the number.

He's got to keep that anyway for the highway boys and he'll want it for
tax porpoises as well...

--


True, But you know how Uncle Sam is about paperwork... Especially a
hauler who claims to be running under 5K a year with a heavy rig.

--
Steve W.

On 2012-09-24, Steve W. wrote:
On 9/23/2012 3:58 PM, Ignoramus11296 wrote:
...

Am I correct in my reading that I can claim it as suspended and submit
the return, but not pay tax? And if, say, I end up using it more than
5,000 miles per year, I can then pay tax? Anyone knows this well
enough?
...

You can deal with it either way. Pay the "tax" first then claim a refund
if you don't hit 5K a year. Or file for suspension and pay if you go over.

BUT either way you had better have VERY good documentation. Vehicle
logs, driver logs, fuel reciepts and such to be able to prove the number.

Good idea. I think that what I will do is, I will pay the tax now,
document my mileage, and then file for a refund if I am under 5k miles
after a year.

i

On 9/23/2012 4:58 PM, Ignoramus11296 wrote:
...
We are now using it
You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg
...

Wow - you are dealing in some serious ****! Is "machinerymoverschicago"
a new business of yours? Bob

Ignoramus11296 writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?

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Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

Ignoramus11296 writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?


Caught my eye too!

Gunner

--
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry

On 9/24/2012 3:50 PM, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?


Caught my eye too!

Gunner


That's some heavy ****...

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:10:35 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 9/24/2012 3:50 PM, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?


Caught my eye too!

Gunner


That's some heavy ****...

Umm, Iggy? You did hear that part about 80,000# max with a standard
rig, right? I have a feeling you drive that over a scale the way it's
loaded in the picture, and it's gonna light up TILT by a good 5K to
10K.

And you start peeling Benjamins off that wad in your pocket and
handing them to the nice Illinois Highway Patrol Ossifer till he
develops a case of transient amnesia.

Or you let him write the ticket and the stack of bills (or the check
payable to the State...) you hand to the Court Clerk is going to be a
lot higher.

Oh, and don't try the Back Roads at 2 AM trick - Portable Scales.

-- Bruce --

On 2012-09-25, Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable) wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:10:35 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 9/24/2012 3:50 PM, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?


Caught my eye too!

Gunner


That's some heavy ****...

Umm, Iggy? You did hear that part about 80,000# max with a standard
rig, right? I have a feeling you drive that over a scale the way it's
loaded in the picture, and it's gonna light up TILT by a good 5K to
10K.

It was not overweight, the stuff on it was mostly light, with the
exception of the shear on the back.

i

And you start peeling Benjamins off that wad in your pocket and
handing them to the nice Illinois Highway Patrol Ossifer till he
develops a case of transient amnesia.

Or you let him write the ticket and the stack of bills (or the check
payable to the State...) you hand to the Court Clerk is going to be a
lot higher.

Oh, and don't try the Back Roads at 2 AM trick - Portable Scales.

-- Bruce --

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

Ignoramus11296 writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?

g I sure would like one of those little ones, wouldn't you?
Garbage in, LIGHT SPEED (or time travel) out. How could it get any
better?

--
Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?

g I sure would like one of those little ones, wouldn't you?
Garbage in, LIGHT SPEED (or time travel) out. How could it get any
better?


You'll be marooned on the Planet of Obsessive Recyclers.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:30:44 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?

g I sure would like one of those little ones, wouldn't you?
Garbage in, LIGHT SPEED (or time travel) out. How could it get any
better?


You'll be marooned on the Planet of Obsessive Recyclers.

Where I stole the marjareen...

--
Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

Ignoramus11296 writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?

g I sure would like one of those little ones, wouldn't you?
Garbage in, LIGHT SPEED (or time travel) out. How could it get any
better?


A great way to dispose of all the junk mail from the DNC.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote:

Ignoramus11296 writes:

You can see the truck with trailer on this pictu

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.com/moving-02.jpg


Is that green thing the larger size Mr. Fusion?

You want one? I have one! For you, real cheep!!

(For the rest of you, Google up "Krups Type 223A Coffee Mill".
Paramount Art Department stickers not included.)

-- Bruce --

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