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OT-- I speak 'shop' to auto salvage yards
After having overheard the conversations on
the 'hotline' between salvage yards, I learned enough of the language to be understood by the natives. Example: [A1 Salvage]: "A1 Salvage" [Winston]: "For a 1980 El Camino, a driver's side door in dark brown." [A1 Salvage]: "No." [Winston]: "Thanks, Bye." The whole transaction normally takes place in less than 15 seconds and frees everyone up to continue their lives very nicely. --Winston |
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Winston wrote:
After having overheard the conversations on the 'hotline' between salvage yards, I learned enough of the language to be understood by the natives. Example: [A1 Salvage]: "A1 Salvage" [Winston]: "For a 1980 El Camino, a driver's side door in dark brown." [A1 Salvage]: "No." [Winston]: "Thanks, Bye." The whole transaction normally takes place in less than 15 seconds and frees everyone up to continue their lives very nicely. LOL. Standardized "Aviation English" is about 300 words. I wonder how many words you could get Salvage English down to? |
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Jim Stewart wrote:
Winston wrote: After having overheard the conversations on the 'hotline' between salvage yards, I learned enough of the language to be understood by the natives. Example: [A1 Salvage]: "A1 Salvage" [Winston]: "For a 1980 El Camino, a driver's side door in dark brown." [A1 Salvage]: "No." [Winston]: "Thanks, Bye." The whole transaction normally takes place in less than 15 seconds and frees everyone up to continue their lives very nicely. LOL. Standardized "Aviation English" is about 300 words. I wonder how many words you could get Salvage English down to? Not too darned many. I should start a 'salvage yard' dictionary: buck: noun. One hundred dollars rear clip: noun. Includes: rear bumper, deck lid or hatch assembly, rear finish panel, left and right tail lamps, trunk floor, back glass, outer and inner roof panel and body floor pan up to the first seam. .... --Winston |
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"Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... Standardized "Aviation English" is about 300 words. I wonder how many words you could get Salvage English down to? I think I've heard that the Army enlisted vocabulary is around 100 words. A few choice words cover a very wide range of meanings. The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English jsw |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:12:07 -0800, Winston
wrote: Jim Stewart wrote: Winston wrote: After having overheard the conversations on the 'hotline' between salvage yards, I learned enough of the language to be understood by the natives. Example: [A1 Salvage]: "A1 Salvage" [Winston]: "For a 1980 El Camino, a driver's side door in dark brown." [A1 Salvage]: "No." [Winston]: "Thanks, Bye." The whole transaction normally takes place in less than 15 seconds and frees everyone up to continue their lives very nicely. LOL. Standardized "Aviation English" is about 300 words. I wonder how many words you could get Salvage English down to? Not too darned many. I should start a 'salvage yard' dictionary: buck: noun. One hundred dollars rear clip: noun. Includes: rear bumper, deck lid or hatch assembly, rear finish panel, left and right tail lamps, trunk floor, back glass, outer and inner roof panel and body floor pan up to the first seam. ... Your gentle server at A1 forgot the magic words: "Want me to find one for you?" whereupon you indicate in the affirmative. G'luck on '80 Elk parts, though. -- The ultimate result of shielding men from folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer |
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I think that's excellent idea. Sounds very useful.
I got a totally strange look when I walked into a hardware store and asked for a Weslock passage, Elegante, times five, 2 3/8 RCL. My locksmith wholesale house counter guy woulda asked how many did I want. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Winston" wrote in message ... I should start a 'salvage yard' dictionary: --Winston |
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In the book "The Right Stuff" they did mention Army Creole.
One of my favorite lines is the jeep driver in the original MASH movie. The actor who played Dr. Joe Early in Emergency! at the hospital. I think IRL, he was married to Dixie McCall. Jack London, was his name, maybe? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... I think I've heard that the Army enlisted vocabulary is around 100 words. A few choice words cover a very wide range of meanings. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... In the book "The Right Stuff" they did mention Army Creole. One of my favorite lines is the jeep driver in the original MASH movie. The actor who played Dr. Joe Early in Emergency! at the hospital. I think IRL, he was married to Dixie McCall. Jack London, was his name, maybe? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . That was Bobby Troup. He was a musician. He wrote the song "Route 66". He was indeed married to Julie London, aka "Dixie". She was also a singer.She had also been married to Jack Webb. Paul K. Dickman |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: I think that's excellent idea. Sounds very useful. I got a totally strange look when I walked into a hardware store and asked for a Weslock passage, Elegante, times five, 2 3/8 RCL. My locksmith wholesale house counter guy woulda asked how many did I want. Then why did you ask for one in a hardware store? -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
(...) Your gentle server at A1 forgot the magic words: "Want me to find one for you?" whereupon you indicate in the affirmative. G'luck on '80 Elk parts, though. That was just an example. In real life, I was looking for a driver's seat for my older Camry because I was quite tired of the way it rocked fore and aft on deceleration and acceleration, respectively. (I love that car, otherwise.) It wasn't the original seat either. The original had a coffee stain on the right side, was well worn and had upholstery tears in two places, from the tool pouch I carry in my right hip pocket. --But it didn't rock to and fro. *This* 'rocking' seat (which is quite clean, relatively unworn and has no upholstery tears) magically appeared in the original's place when I had a new set of tires fitted at a local shop. (All I had to do the following day was put the drive motor axle back in the seat frame and it began to work fine.) (Except for the 'rocking' business.) Shazam! How lucky can a guy get, I ask you? But back to our Recycled Parts Monger this morning: He didn't have a seat and didn't volunteer to locate one either. That was lucky, because after further examination, I repaired my present seat by tightening a loose pivot mounting bolt, on the front port side of the seat frame. DoH! My friends at the shop gave away a perfectly good seat because they couldn't locate and tighten one pivot bolt! --Winston |
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Oh, that brings back the memory. Thank you. In the places I've seen him,
seems like a nice enough fellow. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Paul K. Dickman" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... actor who played Dr. Joe Early in Emergency! at the hospital. I think IRL, he was married to Dixie McCall. Jack London, was his name, maybe? That was Bobby Troup. He was a musician. He wrote the song "Route 66". He was indeed married to Julie London, aka "Dixie". She was also a singer.She had also been married to Jack Webb. Paul K. Dickman |
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I figured an old hardware store was likely to have a discontinued item on a
dusty shelf. My wholesale house wasn't being very helpful. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Stormin Mormon wrote: I got a totally strange look when I walked into a hardware store and asked for a Weslock passage, Elegante, times five, 2 3/8 RCL. My locksmith wholesale house counter guy woulda asked how many did I want. Then why did you ask for one in a hardware store? -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Whoopie ti yi yo, rocking to and fro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6dx8AfTmQk Back in the saddle, again. Glad you got a seat that worked for you. So many things in life can be repaired, given the right tools and skills. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Winston" wrote in message ... In real life, I was looking for a driver's seat for my older Camry because I was quite tired of the way it rocked fore and aft on deceleration and acceleration, respectively. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: I figured an old hardware store was likely to have a discontinued item on a dusty shelf. My wholesale house wasn't being very helpful. You have to wave the bad part in their face, since most don't memorize all the stock numbers but some will remember seeing what you're looking for. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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"Gimmewundeez!"
(how to talk hardware in one simple word.) Christopher A. Young Learn more about Hardware Store Language www.Gimmewundeez.org .. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Stormin Mormon wrote: I figured an old hardware store was likely to have a discontinued item on a dusty shelf. My wholesale house wasn't being very helpful. You have to wave the bad part in their face, since most don't memorize all the stock numbers but some will remember seeing what you're looking for. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: "Gimmewundeez!" No words are needed in a real hardware store, if you have the old item. Unless they have multiple price ranges to chose from. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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"Stormin Mormon" on Tue, 21 Feb
2012 21:55:57 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: "Gimmewundeez!" (how to talk hardware in one simple word.) Oder "Braucht einaml" - same sort of thing in German. (That and "anrufen meinen Chef" solve my problems.) Christopher A. Young Learn more about Hardware Store Language www.Gimmewundeez.org . "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message om... Stormin Mormon wrote: I figured an old hardware store was likely to have a discontinued item on a dusty shelf. My wholesale house wasn't being very helpful. You have to wave the bad part in their face, since most don't memorize all the stock numbers but some will remember seeing what you're looking for. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
(...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. --Winston |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
(...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? --Winston |
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Winston wrote: I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. Not my problem. I live on the other side of the country, for a reason! -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Winston wrote: Jim Wilkins wrote: (...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? The VOA chose the words carefully, since their target was countries where English was a second or third language. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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So true. I wonder if a NYC hardware, you'd have to say "fuggeddabouddit"?
I've wondered if I could order lunch at my favorite pizza shop, wordlessly. After all, I've had the same order for the last ten plus years. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Stormin Mormon wrote: "Gimmewundeez!" No words are needed in a real hardware store, if you have the old item. Unless they have multiple price ranges to chose from. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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That could really suck. Or, you could be the butt of jokes. That could queer
the whole deal. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Winston" wrote in message ... Michael A. Terrell wrote: (...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. --Winston |
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"Winston" wrote in message ... Jim Wilkins wrote:... The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? --Winston WW2 may have been prolonged because the Japanese response to the July 1945 peace feeler included an ambiguous phrase translatable as 'Think little of [something]" or its opposite "Think nothing of it". jsw |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:21:44 -0800, Winston
wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: (...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. I sincerely don't believe he meant for you to "wave -your- bad parts in their face." Win. -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:27:13 -0800, Winston
wrote: Jim Wilkins wrote: (...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? Betty Jo Farber did, Mr. Danger. -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message ... Jim Wilkins wrote:... The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? --Winston WW2 may have been prolonged because the Japanese response to the July 1945 peace feeler included an ambiguous phrase translatable as 'Think little of [something]" or its opposite "Think nothing of it". Communication is tricky. In a documentary I saw last night, _Revenge of the Electric Car_ Carlos Ghosn, CEO & President, Nissan appears to say at one point "I'm not sure I know." From context and body language, it is much more likely that he really said "I'm not unsure. I know." Those two ideas differ somewhat. --Winston |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: So true. I wonder if a NYC hardware, you'd have to say "fuggeddabouddit"? I've wondered if I could order lunch at my favorite pizza shop, wordlessly. After all, I've had the same order for the last ten plus years. I got a pizza yesterday. The girl behind the counter saw me coming and was smiling, then pretended she didn't know what my 'usual' was before handing it to me. 35 years ago I worked second shift at a defense plant A local pizza place had a buffet on night a week, and a dozen of us would hurry there to eat and get back on our half hour break. They would have our 'usuals' made and in the oven when we were due. In spite of a big sign that said that you couldn't take a whole pizza to your table, they would bring out five and put them on or table, all without saying a word. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:21:44 -0800, Winston wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: (...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. I sincerely don't believe he meant for you to "wave -your- bad parts in their face." Win. I guess that you really do have to explain E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G to some people? ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:21:44 -0800, wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: (...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. I sincerely don't believe he meant for you to "wave -your- bad parts in their face." Win. Who are you and what have you done with Larry!? Dood! I've been waiting for you to jump on that line! --Winston |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
(...) I guess that you really do have to explain E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G to some people? ;-) Explain what? You spelled it out, cheater. Larry told you I can't read, didn't he? Grr. --Winston |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:27:13 -0800, wrote: Jim Wilkins wrote: (...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? Betty Jo Farber did, Mr. Danger. That's Audrey Farber or Betty Jo Bialowski, rather! http://www.madmusic.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=3932 --Winston |
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Winston wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:21:44 -0800, wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: (...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. I sincerely don't believe he meant for you to "wave -your- bad parts in their face." Win. Who are you and what have you done with Larry!? Dood! I've been waiting for you to jump on that line! Apparently you didn't wave it hard enough! ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:04:45 -0800, Winston
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:21:44 -0800, wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: (...) You have to wave the bad part in their face, (...) I'm *way* too close to San Francisco to be doing that. I sincerely don't believe he meant for you to "wave -your- bad parts in their face." Win. Who are you and what have you done with Larry!? Dood! I've been waiting for you to jump on that line! I had to wait until it was quoted. He's in my filters. -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:14:36 -0800, Winston
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:27:13 -0800, wrote: Jim Wilkins wrote: (...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? Betty Jo Farber did, Mr. Danger. That's Audrey Farber or Betty Jo Bialowski, rather! http://www.madmusic.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=3932 My mistake. Egad, I know that dialog by heart. How -could- I? whap -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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On 2/21/2012 11:27 PM, Winston wrote:
Jim Wilkins wrote: (...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? "...whatever that means." David |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:38:01 -0600, "David R. Birch"
wrote: On 2/21/2012 11:27 PM, Winston wrote: Jim Wilkins wrote: (...) The Voice of America writers had a list of about 900 words to use, excluding place names.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? "...whatever that means." David I made a caper sauce tonight for baked salmon. I loved it, but my wife did not agree. -- Ed Huntress |
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Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:38:01 -0600, "David R. Birch" wrote: On 2/21/2012 11:27 PM, Winston wrote: (...) Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? "...whatever that means." Welcome, David. You may wait here in the sitting room or you can sit here in the waiting room. I made a caper sauce tonight for baked salmon. Sounds like Heaven! I loved it, but my wife did not agree. Does she not enjoy salmon? Is that even possible? --Winston-- Sushi me! |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:04:45 -0800, wrote: (...) Who are you and what have you done with Larry!? Dood! I've been waiting for you to jump on that line! I had to wait until it was quoted. He's in my filters. OIC --Win |
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:53:14 -0800, Winston
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:38:01 -0600, "David R. Birch" wrote: On 2/21/2012 11:27 PM, Winston wrote: (...) Can you really trust a vocabulary which does not have words to say 'Give me the birds-eye lowdown on this caper.'? "...whatever that means." Welcome, David. You may wait here in the sitting room or you can sit here in the waiting room. I made a caper sauce tonight for baked salmon. Sounds like Heaven! I loved it, but my wife did not agree. Does she not enjoy salmon? Is that even possible? She LOVES salmon. She just didn't like the sauce I made. I made the mistake of using my own recipe -- white sauce, capers, bacon bits and lemon juice. The capers are too sour for her, although I use them in a mushroom cream sauce (with balsamic vinegar) for chicken breasts and she loves that. Too many capers, I guess. sigh I'll never make chef, because, if it wasn't my wife, I would have tenderized her fingers with the meat mallet. --Winston-- Sushi me! Come tuna season, it will be sashimi-on-the-hoof (fin?) in my garage. Just peel back some skin and dig in. However, I learned that the sushi chefs freeze it first, apparently to kill parasites. Hmmm. I'l have to ask down at Fred's Bait Shoppe and Sushi Bar. -- Ed Huntress |
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