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Roland XP 60 , 5 octave keyboard , 1997
In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never
worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion |
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote:
In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment |
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote:
Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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Meat Plow wrote in message
news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. |
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Roland XP 60 , 5 octave keyboard , 1997
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:17:46 +0000, N_Cook wrote:
Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. If it's standard it could be replaced with a PC drive, that's good. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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"N_Cook" wrote in message ... Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. In my experience, most (but not all) of these floppys are NOT standard PC drives. Why this is/was the case I have never really understood. (Unless it was for the manufacturers to make more money on spare parts). In your case here, count yourself lucky! I did once try and investigate whether it was possible to reconfigure standard drives to work in various keyboards/samplers etc, but at the time couldn't find enough data, or the time, to do so. Gareth. |
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Gareth Magennis wrote in message
... "N_Cook" wrote in message ... Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. In my experience, most (but not all) of these floppys are NOT standard PC drives. Why this is/was the case I have never really understood. (Unless it was for the manufacturers to make more money on spare parts). In your case here, count yourself lucky! I did once try and investigate whether it was possible to reconfigure standard drives to work in various keyboards/samplers etc, but at the time couldn't find enough data, or the time, to do so. Gareth. Do you mean non-3.5 inch or not directly swappable FD from a PC to one of these? I did not try an ex-PC FD in the Roland. Noted the type as in the Roland as Panasonic JU 257A 726P, not researched it, as the green FD front panel LED was not lit before fiddling and did come on after fiddling and with it return to function |
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"N_Cook" wrote in message ... Gareth Magennis wrote in message ... "N_Cook" wrote in message ... Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. In my experience, most (but not all) of these floppys are NOT standard PC drives. Why this is/was the case I have never really understood. (Unless it was for the manufacturers to make more money on spare parts). In your case here, count yourself lucky! I did once try and investigate whether it was possible to reconfigure standard drives to work in various keyboards/samplers etc, but at the time couldn't find enough data, or the time, to do so. Gareth. Do you mean non-3.5 inch or not directly swappable FD from a PC to one of these? I did not try an ex-PC FD in the Roland. Noted the type as in the Roland as Panasonic JU 257A 726P, not researched it, as the green FD front panel LED was not lit before fiddling and did come on after fiddling and with it return to function I mean that for most keyboards and samplers etc, swapping in a new PC 3.5inch floppy drive does not and never has worked. Gareth. |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:03:03 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote:
"N_Cook" wrote in message ... Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. In my experience, most (but not all) of these floppys are NOT standard PC drives. Why this is/was the case I have never really understood. (Unless it was for the manufacturers to make more money on spare parts). In your case here, count yourself lucky! I did once try and investigate whether it was possible to reconfigure standard drives to work in various keyboards/samplers etc, but at the time couldn't find enough data, or the time, to do so. I once installed a PC DVDRW in a stand alone DVD recorder. However I used the control boards from the stand alone recorder on the replacement drive. Both were LiteOn products, the drives were 99% the same. Knowing this to work one would assume that a standard 34 pin floppy would interchange regardless of the unit. That is unless there is some specialized ROM on a keyboard or synth drive. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:03:03 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: "N_Cook" wrote in message ... Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. In my experience, most (but not all) of these floppys are NOT standard PC drives. Why this is/was the case I have never really understood. (Unless it was for the manufacturers to make more money on spare parts). In your case here, count yourself lucky! I did once try and investigate whether it was possible to reconfigure standard drives to work in various keyboards/samplers etc, but at the time couldn't find enough data, or the time, to do so. I once installed a PC DVDRW in a stand alone DVD recorder. However I used the control boards from the stand alone recorder on the replacement drive. Both were LiteOn products, the drives were 99% the same. Knowing this to work one would assume that a standard 34 pin floppy would interchange regardless of the unit. There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... Gareth. |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:06:51 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote:
"Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:03:03 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: "N_Cook" wrote in message ... Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse I located the ps problem and will lok into the other end tomorrow , FD covered over at the moment Well let me know what you find. The S20 has no ROM based sounds so all was loaded at and during performance via floppy. These floppies are roughly the size of a Minidisc. As the diskette was attempting to be read I adjusted the head height and immediately the disk started to load. I went back and adjusted the other two axis adjustments by sight to make sure the head rode true on the surface. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse Standard PC 3.5 inch FD in the xp 60 . Removing it and poking around and refitting I can save to a PC formatted disk and load back a "song" and read as HEX files on a pc so perhaps stuck stepper spindle or connector problem. In my experience, most (but not all) of these floppys are NOT standard PC drives. Why this is/was the case I have never really understood. (Unless it was for the manufacturers to make more money on spare parts). In your case here, count yourself lucky! I did once try and investigate whether it was possible to reconfigure standard drives to work in various keyboards/samplers etc, but at the time couldn't find enough data, or the time, to do so. I once installed a PC DVDRW in a stand alone DVD recorder. However I used the control boards from the stand alone recorder on the replacement drive. Both were LiteOn products, the drives were 99% the same. Knowing this to work one would assume that a standard 34 pin floppy would interchange regardless of the unit. There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. Are you hoping one day to take over from Phil Allison? |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:49:04 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote:
There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. Are you hoping one day to take over from Phil Allison? Are you being purposefully evasive? -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:49:04 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. Are you hoping one day to take over from Phil Allison? Are you being purposefully evasive? Lets just leave it there, eh. |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:59:10 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote:
"Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:49:04 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. Are you hoping one day to take over from Phil Allison? Are you being purposefully evasive? Lets just leave it there, eh. Ok but in the future please put some thought into your insults. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:59:10 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:49:04 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. Are you hoping one day to take over from Phil Allison? Are you being purposefully evasive? Lets just leave it there, eh. Ok but in the future please put some thought into your insults. Didn't think you could just leave it there. |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:31:54 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote:
"Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:59:10 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message news On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:49:04 +0000, Gareth Magennis wrote: There are legions of Akai, Roland, Korg, Emu and Yamaha owners out there that dearly wish this were true ..... I understand that. What I don't understand is why you failed to quote my entire reply. Are you hoping one day to take over from Phil Allison? Are you being purposefully evasive? Lets just leave it there, eh. Ok but in the future please put some thought into your insults. Didn't think you could just leave it there. Ah, a 'last word' obsesso. You're predictable. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 -0000, "N_Cook"
wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I just destroyed a Roland D-5 keyboard. What a piece of unrepairable junk. Hopefully, the XP-60 is better built. I could not determine if the XP-60 media uses 1.44MB or 720KB floppish. What is the make and muddle drive that is stock for the Roland XP-60? http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/xp60.php I recently repaired a Korg DSS-1 with the traditional dead floppy disk drive problem. http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/Korg_DSS-1/ If your XP60 requires a 720KB floppy drive, instead of the usual 1.44MByte floppy drive, you have to find one that has suitable jumpers available. This might also help: http://blog.retrosynth.com/archives/2005/08/fun_with_akai_m.html If you're lucky, the only jumper you'll need to move is the drive select jumper, usually labeled DS0, DS1, DS2, and DS3. The common PC drive is set to DS1. Most of the synthesizers I've played with use DS0. Oddly, all of the five or so synthesizers I've fixed that had floppy drives have all had dead floppy disk drives. My guess(tm) is that they die from static discharge while shoving the floppy into the drive. That's what killed mine. I've thought of electroplating the plastic front panel of the drive with metallic chrome or other metal, to discharge the static before the floppy enters the drive. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote in message
news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I just destroyed a Roland D-5 keyboard. What a piece of unrepairable junk. Hopefully, the XP-60 is better built. I could not determine if the XP-60 media uses 1.44MB or 720KB floppish. What is the make and muddle drive that is stock for the Roland XP-60? http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/xp60.php I recently repaired a Korg DSS-1 with the traditional dead floppy disk drive problem. http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/Korg_DSS-1/ If your XP60 requires a 720KB floppy drive, instead of the usual 1.44MByte floppy drive, you have to find one that has suitable jumpers available. This might also help: http://blog.retrosynth.com/archives/2005/08/fun_with_akai_m.html If you're lucky, the only jumper you'll need to move is the drive select jumper, usually labeled DS0, DS1, DS2, and DS3. The common PC drive is set to DS1. Most of the synthesizers I've played with use DS0. Oddly, all of the five or so synthesizers I've fixed that had floppy drives have all had dead floppy disk drives. My guess(tm) is that they die from static discharge while shoving the floppy into the drive. That's what killed mine. I've thought of electroplating the plastic front panel of the drive with metallic chrome or other metal, to discharge the static before the floppy enters the drive. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 This one is back with its owner. The FDD would solenoid? click at power up but no front LED, I assume a leads/connector problem unless a stuck spindle could lead to lack of LED |
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:39:05 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:
1.44MB on this XP 60 It's likely that it will accept any commodity PC style floppy drive. Just be sure to check the drive select line, which is probably set to DS0 (drive select zero). Only $129 plus tax, shipping, handling, etc for a replacement. What a bargain: http://www.vstservice.com/p-734-roland-xp50-xp-60-floppy-disk-drive.aspx This review kinda hints that you can do editing on the PC, save to floppy, and have the XP60 read the floppy without conversion games. http://www.epinions.com/review/Roland_XP_60_Workstation/content_100371893892 It's probably just easier to cram in a common floppy drive than to figure this out. -- # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 # 831-336-2558 # http://802.11junk.com # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS |
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Roland XP 60 , 5 octave keyboard , 1997
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote:
In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I had similar troubles with the S330 sampler floppy drive. A standard PC one didn't work but someone told me that floppy drives with jumpers on their back work if you set the right ones. Could not yet find a drive w/ jumpers to test if the advice was BS or not though. |
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Roland XP 60 , 5 octave keyboard , 1997
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Meat Plow wrote: On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. As I remember, early Roland units used the 3 inch Hitachi 360k byte minidisc. Electromechanically, they looked like the 5 1/4 inch DD drives. (Half the bit rate, and 300 RPM). Other major users of them were the Amstrad computers in the UK. And, I think, fancy sewing machines of the time. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
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Roland XP 60 , 5 octave keyboard , 1997
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:53:23 +0000, Mark Zenier wrote:
In article , Meat Plow wrote: On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:39:09 +0000, N_Cook wrote: Meat Plow wrote in message news On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:11:54 +0000, N_Cook wrote: In for a power supply fault but while in there, the floppy drive has never worked. Would it be a standard PC drive? or known simple repairable stock fault? It does klunk once, on pwering up , sort of PC fashion I have an old S-20 that the floppy failed. Not a standard floppy. The belt had turned to goo. After replacing , the diskette would not read. Some tweaking of the head resulted in the disk to be read. Not sure this applies to 60 but may be worth considering. As I remember, early Roland units used the 3 inch Hitachi 360k byte minidisc. Electromechanically, they looked like the 5 1/4 inch DD drives. (Half the bit rate, and 300 RPM). Other major users of them were the Amstrad computers in the UK. And, I think, fancy sewing machines of the time. This is a Roland S10, don't know why S20 came to mind. Anyway you are 100% correct about the drive. I've done some research on it after owning it for several years. It was given to me by a relative who had purchased it new 20 some years ago. I have around 100 disks for it. It's a very nice sounding unit. You can sample into it and it has a good arpeggio function. Also works well with MIDI. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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