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R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

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272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint? dont know)
276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
something.
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R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

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272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
colored paint instead of shiny like that one)


Correct, it's a sliding window lock

274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint? dont

know)

I don't think it's a sprayer

276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)


It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.

277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
something.


Nope


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276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)


It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.


The shutter is behind the iris. The iris is first opened to the
calculated/selected F-stop, then the shutter opens briefly.

What we're looking at here is the iris.
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276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont

know)

It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.


The shutter is behind the iris. The iris is first opened to the
calculated/selected F-stop, then the shutter opens briefly.

What we're looking at here is the iris.


Correct, except on this old camera part the shutter is in front of the iris.




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276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont

know)

It's not a shutter, but it is part of a camera.


The shutter is behind the iris. The iris is first opened to the
calculated/selected F-stop, then the shutter opens briefly.

What we're looking at here is the iris.


Correct, except on this old camera part the shutter is in front of the iris.


If this is this one:
http://pzphotosan52.blogspot.com/
then it's clearly a shutter, since they say so right on the page.

The "T" is "Time", the "B" is "Bulb", I don't know what the "I"
is (maybe instant?), then 1/4, 1/2, 1 and 2 have to be shutter
speeds. And the cylinder on the right for the remote bulb. The
little pointer on the bottom is proabably equivalent to F stop.

Oh! I see - in the original photo, all we saw was the iris, in
the back view. On my monitor, all I see for the original is black.
Also, in the back view, you can see that that lower pointer is
coupled to it. So the assembly is both the shutter and the iris.

Cheers!
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Jonathan Wilson wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint?
dont know)
276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
something.

272 window lock
273 lathe dog
274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
277 dry wall screw anchor
266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
268 bayonet
270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.

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Jonathan Wilson wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

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272 window lock
273 lathe dog
274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
277 dry wall screw anchor
266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
268 bayonet
270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.


These are all correct, though I'm still not sure about 266, I have to admit
I hope it doesn't turn out to actually be an egg dipper, also I'm not sure
277 is for drywall.


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Jonathan Wilson wrote:


R.H. wrote:


Just posted some new photos:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


272 window lock
273 lathe dog
274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
277 dry wall screw anchor
266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
268 bayonet
270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.



These are all correct, though I'm still not sure about 266, I have to admit
I hope it doesn't turn out to actually be an egg dipper, also I'm not sure
277 is for drywall.


277 isn't drywall - it is the backside of a wood piece that is bolted to something.

The Iris could be a shutter for a color spot or bright lamp - or carbon arc lamp to shut
down the volume of light to the subject. The real question is how tough is the item -
is it very thin - then camera - if reasonable thick then lamp or a projector (carbon lamp)
limiter. or on/off switch.

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#271 - Something for distilling?


"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
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Jonathan Wilson wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


272 looks like a device that one could screw to hold a window closed, I
remember owning or using one similar to that (but covered in a cream
colored paint instead of shiny like that one)
274 looks like its designed to spray something (insect spray? paint? dont
know)
276 looks like a shutter (to an old camera? film equipment? I dont know)
277 looks like cutting blades from something like a garbage disposal or
something.

272 window lock
273 lathe dog
274 pin striper - single size single line. Bottle is for the thick ink.
275 clay pigeon hand thrower - target practice with a shotgun or '45 :-)
276 Simple iris camera lens or a lamp shutter.
277 dry wall screw anchor
266 egg dipper / candle the egg for internal viewing or coloring eggs.
267 acorn nut - from sheet metal - lower quality than solid material.
268 bayonet
270 tin type or a true lantern slide for carbon arc viewing.

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272. Al window stop or lock
273.Nut cracker
274. line maker using paint
275. Looks painful?
276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
277. Nutlock for funiture assembly


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I thought 273 was a nut cracker at first but the tip of the bolt is flat.
Will this still work?

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272. Al window stop or lock
273.Nut cracker
274. line maker using paint
275. Looks painful?
276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
277. Nutlock for funiture assembly



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I thought 273 was a nut cracker at first but the tip of the bolt is flat.
Will this still work?


The tip of the bolt is actually a little bit convex, and the bolt is not
very long so I don't think it's a nutcracker.


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274. line maker using paint


Or glue applicator

275. Looks painful?
276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
277. Nutlock for funiture assembly


Actually called a "teenut," (works similarly to real teenuts for
clamping workpieces for machining, but in wood or plastic to mount
various positioning aids) Use a lot of them making custom wheelchair
rehab seating.
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274. line maker using paint


Or glue applicator


Could be


275. Looks painful?
276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame
277. Nutlock for funiture assembly


Actually called a "teenut," (works similarly to real teenuts for
clamping workpieces for machining, but in wood or plastic to mount
various positioning aids) Use a lot of them making custom wheelchair
rehab seating.


Yes, tee nut is the answer that I was looking for here.





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272. Al window stop or lock


Correct

273.Nut cracker


Nope

274. line maker using paint


This one belongs to someone else, neither he nor I know exactly what it's
for, so I'm not sure if this is correct.

275. Looks painful?
276. Iris in oil or gas fired furnace to adjust flame


Not for a furnace

277. Nutlock for funiture assembly


Don't know if this is for furniture assembly, but you have the right general
idea.





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Just guesses of course, but...

272. Some sort of screen door fastener. Maybe to hold the glass or screen
in place?

273. Sprinkler pipe clamp.

274. I would guess at an old chaulk or ink dispenster for carpenters, etc.

277. Cheap but effective "nut" for use on fiber board or soft woods with
light duty carriage bolts, etc. Digs into the wood as you tighten the
fastener and thus does not spin?

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Just guesses of course, but...

272. Some sort of screen door fastener. Maybe to hold the glass or screen
in place?


Close but not correct.


273. Sprinkler pipe clamp.


Not sure here...


274. I would guess at an old chaulk or ink dispenster for carpenters, etc.


Possibly, not sure about this one either.


277. Cheap but effective "nut" for use on fiber board or soft woods with
light duty carriage bolts, etc. Digs into the wood as you tighten the
fastener and thus does not spin?


Correct.


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274 - for marking out lines? pool/billiard table?

275 - pure guess - a trigger pull gauge

276 an old camera aperture control iris

277 - a nut that is drawn into the soft wood / chipboard by
the action of the bolt - thus allowing you to bolt together
without great access to nut and leaving very little
protruding.
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http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


274 - for marking out lines? pool/billiard table?


Don't know, I'm hoping someone will verify this for us with a good link.


275 - pure guess - a trigger pull gauge


Nope


276 an old camera aperture control iris


Camera aperture is correct.


277 - a nut that is drawn into the soft wood / chipboard by
the action of the bolt - thus allowing you to bolt together
without great access to nut and leaving very little
protruding.


Yes.





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272. ALuminum window lock or travel stop?

275 is a hand trap, for throwing clay targets for shotgun practice.
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272. ALuminum window lock or travel stop?
275 is a hand trap, for throwing clay targets for shotgun practice.


Both of these are correct.


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272. Window lock
273. Lathe dog
274. No clue
275. Wire tensioner
276. Camera aperture
277. Tee nut

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Gary Brady wrote:
R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

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272. Window lock
273. Lathe dog
274. No clue
275. Wire tensioner
276. Camera aperture
277. Tee nut

On second look, I'll say that:

274. pinstripe applicator

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R.H. wrote:

Just posted some new photos:

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272. Window lock


Correct

273. Lathe dog


I looked on the web and couldn't find one like it, still not sure.

274. No clue
275. Wire tensioner


Nope

276. Camera aperture
277. Tee nut


Both correct.


On second look, I'll say that:

274. pinstripe applicator


Don't know...








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* R. H.
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277 One of three parts of a nut bolt system to fasten something on a
plaster wall or whatever this is called in English.

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277 One of three parts of a nut bolt system to fasten something on a
plaster wall or whatever this is called in English.


I don't think that there is three parts to this one, but it's something
similar for fastening.


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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:55:54 +0000, R.H. wrote:


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277 One of three parts of a nut bolt system to fasten something on a
plaster wall or whatever this is called in English.


I don't think that there is three parts to this one, but it's something
similar for fastening.


It is definitely not a wall anchor. (although it could be used for one if
put into place before assembling the wall! ;-) )

Cheers!
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272: A device to connect current to the water pipes, i.e. grounding.

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272: A device to connect current to the water pipes, i.e. grounding.


Nope




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272. Hamburgler deterrent.
273. Eats lathe cats.
274. McGuyver's high-school bong kit.
275. My dad used to beat me with one after frisbee practice.
276. The Terminator's eye.
277. An anti-screw. Combine with a regular screw and the two instantly
destroy eachother.

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272--Sliding door or window stop
273--Lathe dog
274--Pin striping device
275--Hand launcher for trap shooting
276--Iris diaphragm for camera lens
277--Tee nut


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272--Sliding door or window stop


Correct

273--Lathe dog
274--Pin striping device


Still awaiting good links to verify these two


275--Hand launcher for trap shooting
276--Iris diaphragm for camera lens
277--Tee nut


All correct.



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272: Stops something from sliding on rails. You put this thing on
the rail, move it to where you want it to stop, and tighten the set
screw. Probably a window as it's not big enough for a door.

273: Presumably the screw is meant to center something.. no idea what.

274: Pesticide bottle?

275: Given the name "Western Cartridge", it might be a tool for
sighting-in rifles or some such thing.

276: Camera aperture

277: Device for putting metal threads in a wooden block which will be
turned while in use. You drill the hole in the block, then hammer
this thing in. A pepper shaker of mine has a similar device inside. Doesn't
work too well because the prongs don't grip well.
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272: Stops something from sliding on rails. You put this thing on
the rail, move it to where you want it to stop, and tighten the set
screw. Probably a window as it's not big enough for a door.


Yes, for a window.


273: Presumably the screw is meant to center something.. no idea what.

274: Pesticide bottle?


As stated previously, still researching these two.


275: Given the name "Western Cartridge", it might be a tool for
sighting-in rifles or some such thing.


Nope

276: Camera aperture

277: Device for putting metal threads in a wooden block which will be
turned while in use. You drill the hole in the block, then hammer
this thing in. A pepper shaker of mine has a similar device inside.

Doesn't
work too well because the prongs don't grip well.


These last two are correct.







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272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?
273 - Lathe/Grinder dog
274 - Paint striper?
275 - Skeet thrower
276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood

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272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?


Correct.

273 - Lathe/Grinder dog


Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?

274 - Paint striper?


Here is some background on this item, as stated in the email from the owner:

"Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt &
Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was a
tinkerer extraordinaire.

Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
Zippo, but not used that way here).

The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.

This fits nicely into the hand, with thumb and finger resting in the
opposing depressions."


275 - Skeet thrower
276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood


These three are correct, aperture for 276.


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Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?

No, unfortunately I can't find one quite like that and I must admit that I'm
only speaking from what I've heard others call them. Lathe dogs generally
have a tab that is either bent to go into a slot on a faceplate or straight
to be driven by a bolt mounted on the faceplate. I've always heard the kind
with a fork like the one pictured called grinder or grinding dogs but I
don't know why. I can find examples of grinding dogs with 2 forks on them
but I must plead ignorance on the differences.

"Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt
&
Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was
a
tinkerer extraordinaire.

Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
Zippo, but not used that way here).

The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.


That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or a
contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a circular
saw. Here's a modern version:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainC at=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUC T&RS=1&keyword=beugler

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272 - Window/screen retainer or stop?


Correct.

273 - Lathe/Grinder dog


Do you know of a web site that could verify this one?

274 - Paint striper?


Here is some background on this item, as stated in the email from the
owner:

"Found in my late Father-in-laws' estate. He had been an engineer at Pratt
&
Whitney Aircraft in Hartford, but this was from his personal shop. He was
a
tinkerer extraordinaire.

Seems to be an oiler or something, with the small rolling notched wheel
dispensing whatever was in the vial (looks like a striking wheel from a
Zippo, but not used that way here).

The round head screw on the side is for attaching to something that would
go through the hole, which does not have a passage into the nozzle.

This fits nicely into the hand, with thumb and finger resting in the
opposing depressions."


275 - Skeet thrower
276 - Camera iris/shutter/aperture?
277 - Tee Nut to put a threaded hole in wood


These three are correct, aperture for 276.




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That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or a
contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a circular
saw. Here's a modern version:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainC at=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUC T&RS=1&keyword=beugler

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Yup, I was just going to Eastwood myself to get the link. I have a
couple of those Beuglers for pinstriping.
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That fits with the pinstriper theory. The screw would be to clamp an
adjustable edge guide that you can use to follow an existing stripe or
a contour on the body of a car. Sort of like using a rip fence on a
circular saw. Here's a modern version:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1916&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainC at=503&iSubCat=536&iProductID=1916&itemType=PRODUC T&RS=1&keyword=beugler


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Yup, I was just going to Eastwood myself to get the link. I have a
couple of those Beuglers for pinstriping.

http://www.beugler.com/high.html that is the one I have - nice movie and general site.

I'll use it in book binding and other little tasks.

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