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I need a better bench grinder
I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town.
It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. |
Has anyone bought from Northern tools? I am also looking at these grinders.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...d=6970&Ntk=All I was looking at the one with the belt sander attached. Any help here on this? Don D. "Don D." wrote in message news:ijgLd.3355$6u.2721@fed1read02... I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town. It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. |
The HF's will bog with a course wire wheel.
JR Dweller in the cellar Don D. wrote: I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town. It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
"Don D." wrote in message news:ijgLd.3355$6u.2721@fed1read02... I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town. It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. ebay or an auction. Get something with a real motor, like a Baldor. |
I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town.
It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. I bought one from one of those tool truck sales ---- again, JUNK. It had open, exposed bearings facing the sides of the wheels and the bearings went out within a few days.... No power, either as when I open up this huge housing, there was a little tiny drill motor sized armature inside - no wonder no power. I bought a Delta next - but didn't notice on the box (in tiny print) Made in China.... same junk, different name. My thoughts are to make one with a good motor, NOT 3450 rpm (which I could never understand why a grinder has to spin out of control to operate), which will probably be driving a belt driven arbor. Gotta be better than the china junk - and it *will* be made in the USA (by ME). :-) Ken. |
I saw a couple grinders that had low RPM's, I wonder if these would work
better that the 3400 RPM's. I saw another one at the about 3400 RPM that said no load, would that mean it should not bog down? I did a small job biulding a tie post for a friend and I am using the money to buy a bigger grinder. I am looking at $80.00 - 100.00 if that helps finding a decent grinder Don D. "Don D." wrote in message news:ijgLd.3355$6u.2721@fed1read02... I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town. It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. |
How about a belt-driven arbor. For a 6" x 1/2" brush, use 1 hp or better.
"Don D." wrote in message news:ijgLd.3355$6u.2721@fed1read02... I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town. It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. |
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:56:35 -0700, the renowned "Don D."
wrote: I saw a couple grinders that had low RPM's, I wonder if these would work better that the 3400 RPM's. I saw another one at the about 3400 RPM that said no load, would that mean it should not bog down? I did a small job biulding a tie post for a friend and I am using the money to buy a bigger grinder. I am looking at $80.00 - 100.00 if that helps finding a decent grinder Don D. I'm sure they're not in the same class as an industrial-strength Baldor, but the Ryobi 3600 RPM 8" looks like pretty decent value for $59 US (Home Depot-- about 1/10 the $600+ street price of a new 1800RPM 3/4HP 8" Baldor such as the 8100WD). But then I don't do big stuff very often. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
I see sears has a 6" variable speed grinder (#21152) in their craftsman
club flyer on sale for 63.00. Any takers having this one? Just for ****s and giggles I did buy a motor from off a swamp cooler (evap cooler) that can run a two speeds 1725 / 1140 RPM's, 1/2 hp, 8.4 amp, 60 hz. The manufacture is A.O. Smith corp. frostline model. I will see what that does stand alone or use it belt driven in an arbor. If not, junk it on this project and use it when my cooler motor blows. I will find something this week I hate buy something and it is gutless.. I have the need for more POWER.. Home improvement is one of my shows... MORE POWER, ARE ARE ARE. Thanks for all your input and keep it all coming. Don D. "Tom Gardner" wrote in message om... How about a belt-driven arbor. For a 6" x 1/2" brush, use 1 hp or better. "Don D." wrote in message news:ijgLd.3355$6u.2721@fed1read02... I have a 6", 3/4 hp bench grinder I bought when a tool truck came to town. It is a good size, but no power.. JUNK to me. Does HF, HD or Sears have a good grinder that can use a wire wheel with out bogging down? What size, hp and amps would I look for that will not grunt or stop on me... TIA Don D. |
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I saw that one also..... 2hp MORE POWER! I wonder if it is worth it. It
does not say "NO LOAD" I also wonder if no load means will not bog down... could be worth it... They are only 75 miles away from me in AZ. "Dave" wrote in message oups.com... Anyone tried the 10" from HF? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=6510 |
you need to stalk the auctions and estate sales , really good grinders
havent been made in years look for a ten to 16 inch pedestal grinder you do have three phase power ? otherwise the milwaukee 5051 1 3/4 hp is the best on the market right now |
look for a ten to 16 inch pedestal grinder
I have a baldor 10 inch grinder. Now that a real grinder. Still made and sold by various distributors such as J&L. However, I use my 1 inch kalamazoo belt sander far more than my grinder. It is an amazing useful tool. It can do everything from sharpen pencils to hog off metal. chuck |
The Milwaukee 5051 seems to be only a 3/4 h.p. unit, not a 1 3/4 h.p.,
though it is probably still a quality unit. williamhenry wrote: otherwise the milwaukee 5051 1 3/4 hp is the best on the market right now |
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Gunner wrote:
Ayup..most used abrasive in my shop are the belt sanders Gunner Really? As a grinder substitute? |
On 1 Feb 2005 16:24:01 -0800, "Dave" wrote:
Gunner wrote: Ayup..most used abrasive in my shop are the belt sanders Gunner Really? As a grinder substitute? Yes indeedy. I shape and sharpen my high speed steel tool bits on a belt sander, do most shaping and forming on a belt sander, deburr and whatnot on belt sanders. In fact, I seldom ever turn on any of the 3 or so grinders, except the diamond wheeled Baldor for final sharpening. Probably the grinder that gets the most use has a fine wire wheel on one side and a soft wheel for deburring on the other. Most of all, I use the big 6x48 belt sander that has a 12" disk sander on the side, followed by the usual 1x42 (I have two, next to each other, one with a course and one with a fine belt. Belts when bought off ebay from Barbkat are cheap, last a long time and do excellent work for steel stock removal.\ They can swap out belts in a matter of seconds so changing from grit to grit is a breeze. You simply leave the guards off G The fine belted 1x42 is what I use most of all for sharpening drill bits. Its a snap to do. I consider them to be among the handiest tools in the entire shop. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
I have one and like it. It does not bog down. It may not really be a
2 hp motor, but it has plenty of power. It runs at 1725 rpm and therefore has more torque than a grinder that runs at 3450 rpm. That said, I replaced the fine wheel with a soft white one from Boeing Surplus. The new one is a 1.25 inch wide Norton wheel. I should replace the coarse wheel as it is not good. But right now I just lean into it and let it burn whatever I am grinding. ( I don't do that on things that care about ). If you get one plan on beefing up or replacing the tool rests. I brazed a gusset on one and made another from 1/4 inch thick steel. Dan Dave wrote: Anyone tried the 10" from HF? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=6510 |
The big thing I noticed when first using a belt sander as a grinder is
how much more control you have in shaping a tool. Major advantage. Steve Gunner wrote: On 1 Feb 2005 16:24:01 -0800, "Dave" wrote: Gunner wrote: Ayup..most used abrasive in my shop are the belt sanders Gunner Really? As a grinder substitute? Yes indeedy. I shape and sharpen my high speed steel tool bits on a belt sander, do most shaping and forming on a belt sander, deburr and whatnot on belt sanders. In fact, I seldom ever turn on any of the 3 or so grinders, except the diamond wheeled Baldor for final sharpening. Probably the grinder that gets the most use has a fine wire wheel on one side and a soft wheel for deburring on the other. Most of all, I use the big 6x48 belt sander that has a 12" disk sander on the side, followed by the usual 1x42 (I have two, next to each other, one with a course and one with a fine belt. Belts when bought off ebay from Barbkat are cheap, last a long time and do excellent work for steel stock removal.\ They can swap out belts in a matter of seconds so changing from grit to grit is a breeze. You simply leave the guards off G The fine belted 1x42 is what I use most of all for sharpening drill bits. Its a snap to do. I consider them to be among the handiest tools in the entire shop. Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu. (Phil Garding) |
Really? As a grinder substitute? Definately. My 1 inch kalamazoo belt sander gets a lot of use. The flat surface makes it ideal for grinding contors. My 2 inch belt sander runs twice as fast and only gets used for hogging off stock. Another big plus is that you can use it for all kinds of metal. Grinding aluminum is dangerous. Easy on a belt sander. chuck |
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:21:17 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: It's a lot less dangerous in general than a grinder. P.S. well, not always: http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/scrotum.htm Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
Dave wrote: Gunner wrote: Ayup..most used abrasive in my shop are the belt sanders Gunner Really? As a grinder substitute? A wheel grinder is a belt grinder substitute, not the other way around. Still somewhat useful with a wire brush, but my 4 1/2" angle grinder gets more play using wire wheels and flap wheels. Haven't fired up the wheel grinder in ages. Stan |
I've noticed that metal doesn't seem the get anwhere near as hot on the
belt sander as the bench grinder. At least for the 4 belt sander that I use the most. I haven't done a study or anything, but I think it gets a lot more air flowing past the part I'm sanding, compared to the bench grinder. The extra air flow lets me take off more metal with the part staying cooler. This is with a coarse belt (less that 120 grit) compaired to a standard grey cutting wheel in a 6" bench grinder. I have to agree that th belt sander is a more useful tool. If anyone is going to get one, I'd suggest you get one where you can get your part behind the platen to sand the inside of "U" shaped pieces. |
In article ,
Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:21:17 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote: It's a lot less dangerous in general than a grinder. P.S. well, not always: http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/scrotum.htm Except that was not a belt sander, but a drive belt for some machine tool. And it was hardly being used as intended. :-) I'm glad to see that Snopes verifies this one. I've always felt that it read as true. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
On 2 Feb 2005 16:56:10 -0500, (DoN. Nichols)
wrote: In article , Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:21:17 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote: It's a lot less dangerous in general than a grinder. P.S. well, not always: http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/scrotum.htm Except that was not a belt sander, but a drive belt for some machine tool. And it was hardly being used as intended. :-) I'm glad to see that Snopes verifies this one. I've always felt that it read as true. Enjoy, DoN. I've read that article on snopes.com before. It still makes me weak to think about it. ERS |
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