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GTO69RA4
 
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Get out while the getting's good. They're dropping all newsgroup access. I have
been planning on switching for a long time now, but this is the final nail in
the coffin.

I also think this will be a big loss for Usenet in general. Say what you will
about the comapny and most of its members, but AOL has a huge share of the
online market. Now AOLers who aren't specifically looking for NGs (as in using
different servers) will never make the leap.

GTO(John)
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Jim Stewart
 
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Dirk Gently wrote:
On 24 Jan 2005 18:46:50 GMT, (GTO69RA4) wrote:


Get out while the getting's good. They're dropping all newsgroup access.



They're newsreader sucked anyway, but if you want real good NG access
cheap you can sign on with
www.newsreader.com for about $10 per month
and have 30GB of bandwidth available per month. I don't work for them,
but I have been using them for several months and am happy with their service.


Can you tell me about how long it takes
rcm posts to age off their server?


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Dirk Gently wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:25:25 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:

Can you tell me about how long it takes
rcm posts to age off their server?



From their FAQ: http://www.newsreader.com/faq.htm

Q:What is your article retention like?

A: Our servers have three retention periods which all groups are classified


snip,

Thanks. Looks like a good deal.
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Robert Nichols
 
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In article ,
Dirk Gently wrote:
:On 24 Jan 2005 18:46:50 GMT, (GTO69RA4) wrote:
:
:Get out while the getting's good. They're dropping all newsgroup access.
:
:They're newsreader sucked anyway, but if you want real good NG access
:cheap you can sign on with
www.newsreader.com for about $10 per month
:and have 30GB of bandwidth available per month. I don't work for them,
:but I have been using them for several months and am happy with their service.

There are plenty of good providers out there with a wide variety of
plans. I have an account with newsguy.com for $40/year that allows me
3GB/month, which is plenty since I generally don't use the binaries
groups, and the account also includes 2 spam-protected email boxes. My
high-speed internet service from Comcast also comes with news service
from giganews.com, which offers various plans, including their
"Unlimited" plan for $25/month. Both Newsguy and Giganews offer free
trial accounts.

All of the commercial news providers offer much better news service than
you're used to seeing from AOL. Giganews advertises "up to" 420 day
retention on their non-binary groups. I'm not sure what Newsguy's
retention time is, but it's way longer than the 45 days I retain
articles on my local machine.

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Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "rnichols42"


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I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I think this is pretty cute - and
it sure fits the father-in-law.

Diary of an AOL User

July 18 - I just tried to connect to America Online. I've heard it is
the best online service I can get. They even included a free disk! I'd
better hold onto it incase they don't ever send me anther one! I can't
connect. I don't know what is wrong.

July 19 - Some guy at the tech support center says my computer needs a
modem. I don't see why. He's just trying to cheat me. How dumb does he
think I am?

July 22 - I bought the modem. I couldn't figure out where it goes. It
wouldn't fit in the monitor or the printer. I'm confused.

July 23 - I finally got the modem in and hooked up. that nine year old
next door did it for me. But it still don't work. I cant get online.

July 25 - That nine year old kid next door hooked me up to America
Online for me. He's so smart. I told the kid he was a prodigy. But he
says that's just another service. What a modest kid. He's so smart and
he does these services for people. Anyway he's smarter then the jerks
who sold me the modem. They didn't even tell me about communications
software. Bet they didn't know. And why do they put two telephone jack
holes in the back of a modem when you only need one? And why do they
have one labeled phone when you are not suppose to hook it to the
phone jack on the wall? I thought the dial tone sounded funny! Boy,
are modem makers dumb! But the kid figured it out by the sound.

July 26 - What's the internet? I thought I was on America Online. Not
this internet thing. I'm confused.

July 27 - The nine year old kid next door showed me how to use this
America Online stuff. I told him he must be a genius. He says that he
is compared to me. Maybe he's not so modest after all.

July 28 - I tried to use chat today. I tried to talk into my computer
but nothing happened. maybe I need to buy a microphone.

July 29 - I found this thing called usenet. I got out of it because
I'm connected to America Online not usenet.

July 30 - These people in this usenet thing keep using capital
letters.=20 How do they do that? I never figured out how to type
capital letters. Maybe they have a different type of keyboard.

JULY 31 - I CALLED THE COMPUTER MAKER I BOUGHT IT FROM TO COMPLAIN
ABOUT NOT HAVING A CAPITOL LETTER KEY. THE TECH SUPPORT GUY SAID IT
WAS THIS CAPS LOCK KEY. WHY DIDN'T THEY SPELL IT OUT? I TOLD HIM I GOT
A CHEAP KEYBOARD AND WANTED A BETTER ONE. AND ONE OF MY SHIFT KEYS
ISNT THE SAME SIZE AS THE OTHER. HE SAID THATS A STANDARD. I TOLD HIM
I DIDN'T WANT A STANDARD KEYBOARD BUT ANOTHER BRAND. I MUST HAVE HAD
AN IMPORTANT COMPLAINT BECAUSE I HEARD HIM TELL THE OTHER SUPPORT GUYS
TO LISTEN IN ON OUR CONVERSATION.

AUGUST 1 - I FOUND THIS THING CALLED THE USENET ORACLE. IT SAYS THAT
IT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I ASK IT. I SENT IT 44 SEPARATE QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE INTERNET. I HOPE IT RESPONDS SOON.

AUGUST 2 - I FOUND A GROUP CALLED REC.HUMOR. I DECIDED TO POST THIS
JOKE ABOUT THE CHICKEN THAT CROSSED THE ROAD. TO GET TO THE OTHER
SIDE! HA! HA! I WASNT SURE I POSTED IT RIGHT SO I POSTED IT 56 MORE
TIMES.

AUGUST 3 - I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE WORLD WIDE WEB. I DON'T NOW
SPIDERS GREW THAT LARGE.

AUGUST 4 - THE ORACLE RESPONDED TO MY QUESTIONS TODAY. GEEZ IT WAS
RUDE. I WAS SO ANGRY THAT I POSTED AN ANGRY MESSAGE ABOUT IT TO
REC.HUMOR.ORACLE. I WASNT SURE IF I POSTED RIGHT SO I POSTED IT 22
MORE TIMES.

AUGUST 5 - SOMEONE TOLD ME TO READ THE FAQ. GEEZ THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO
USE PROFANITY.

AUGUST 6 - SOMEONE ELSE TOLD ME TO STOP SHOUTING IN ALL MY MESSAGES.
WHAT A STUPID JERK. IM NOT SHOUTING! IM NOT EVEN TALKING! JUST TYPING!
HOW CAN THEY LET THESE RUDE JERKS GO ON THE INTERNET?

August 7 - Why have a Caps Lock key if you're not suppose to use it?
Its probably an extra feature that costs more money.

August 8 - I just read this post called make money fast. I'm so
exited. I'm going to make lots of money. I followed his instructions
and posted it to every newsgroup I could find.

August 9 - I just made my signature file. Its only 6 pages long. I
will have to work on it some more.

August 10 - I just looked at a group called alt.aol.sucks. I read a
few posts and I really believe that aol should be wiped off the face
of the earth. I wonder what an aol is.

August 11 - I was asking where to find some information about
something. Some guy told me to check out ftp.netcom.com. I've looked
and looked but I can't find that group.

August 12 - I sent a post to every usenet group on the Internet asking
where the ftp.netcom.com is. hopefully someone will help. I cant ask
the kid next door. His parents said that when he comes back from my
house he's laughing so hard he can't eat or sleep or do his homework.
So they wont let him come over anymore. I do have a great sense of
humor. I don't know why the rec.humor group didn't like my chicken
joke. Maybe they only like dirty stuff. Some people sent me posts
about my 56 posts of the joke and they used bad words.

August 13 - I sent another post to every usenet group on the Internet
asking where the ftp.netcom.com is. I had forgot yesterday to include
my new signature file which is only 8 pages long. I know everyone will
want to read my favorite poem so I included it. I'm also going to add
that short story I like.

August 14 - Some guy suspended my account because of what I was doing.
I told him I don't have an account at his bank. He's so dumb.


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Paul Powell
 
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In article ,
says...
On 24 Jan 2005 18:46:50 GMT,
(GTO69RA4) wrote:

Get out while the getting's good. They're dropping all newsgroup access.


They're newsreader sucked anyway, but if you want real good NG access
cheap you can sign on with
www.newsreader.com for about $10 per month
and have 30GB of bandwidth available per month. I don't work for them,
but I have been using them for several months and am happy with their service.


Try 'MicroPlanet Gravity'. It's free and works pretty slick. NO
support, as the company folded, but one can still download it.
dutchman
--
The older I get, the better I used to be.
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Karl Vorwerk
 
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An article about it at Zdnet:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/AnchorD...&tag=nl.e501-1
Karl


"GTO69RA4" wrote in message
...
Get out while the getting's good. They're dropping all newsgroup access. I
have
been planning on switching for a long time now, but this is the final nail
in
the coffin.

I also think this will be a big loss for Usenet in general. Say what you
will
about the comapny and most of its members, but AOL has a huge share of the
online market. Now AOLers who aren't specifically looking for NGs (as in
using
different servers) will never make the leap.

GTO(John)



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Don Murray
 
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Judge Rules ISP, Server Location May Determine Jurisdiction

http://www.isp-planet.com/politics/0...sidiction.html

Don

Karl Vorwerk wrote:
An article about it at Zdnet:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/AnchorD...&tag=nl.e501-1
Karl


"GTO69RA4" wrote in message
...

Get out while the getting's good. They're dropping all newsgroup access. I
have
been planning on switching for a long time now, but this is the final nail
in
the coffin.

I also think this will be a big loss for Usenet in general. Say what you
will
about the comapny and most of its members, but AOL has a huge share of the
online market. Now AOLers who aren't specifically looking for NGs (as in
using
different servers) will never make the leap.

GTO(John)







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Larry Jaques
 
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:37:11 GMT, the inscrutable "Karl Vorwerk"
spake:

An article about it at Zdnet:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/AnchorD...&tag=nl.e501-1


Judging by this gal's net savvy (or lack thereof) -she- belongs on
AOL. D- for Molly.


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Karl Vorwerk
 
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I'm the only person I know that uses newsgroups and I have several friends
that consider themselves to be computer nerds.
I think I've learned more from this newsgroup than anywhere else on the web.
Karl


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:37:11 GMT, the inscrutable "Karl Vorwerk"
spake:

An article about it at Zdnet:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/AnchorD...&tag=nl.e501-1


Judging by this gal's net savvy (or lack thereof) -she- belongs on
AOL. D- for Molly.


---
After they make styrofoam, what do they ship it in? --Steven Wright
http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development



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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:54:19 GMT, the inscrutable "Karl Vorwerk"
spake:

I'm the only person I know that uses newsgroups and I have several friends
that consider themselves to be computer nerds.
I think I've learned more from this newsgroup than anywhere else on the web.


Yes sir. The metalheads and wreckers are two fantastically
bright and varied groups. I've learned something new daily
from one or the other for a decade now. Perhaps there's hope
for Molly.


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