Hello All,
I have an All American Die Filer from the All American Tool & Mfg. Co.
8027 Lawndale Ave. Skokie, Ill . It is in the 81-XXX serial number
range.

Does anyone have access to literature on this machine? Mine is in good
order and I want to keep it that way.

I also would like to know what size of file it was originally designed
for. Fedfile and Nicholson still make files, but only Fedfile makes
type 'F'. How do I use type 'E' files in a tension machine? Many thanks

CharlieBiler wrote:
Hello All,
I have an All American Die Filer from the All American Tool & Mfg. Co.
8027 Lawndale Ave. Skokie, Ill . It is in the 81-XXX serial number
range.

Does anyone have access to literature on this machine? Mine is in good
order and I want to keep it that way.

I also would like to know what size of file it was originally designed
for. Fedfile and Nicholson still make files, but only Fedfile makes
type 'F'. How do I use type 'E' files in a tension machine? Many thanks


I checked out the die file market last August. Here my summary - GWE :

Winchester Tool Supply
1051 Saw Mill River Road
Yonkers, N.Y. 10710
1-800-431-2936 (they answer the phone as "Starr Tools")
http://www.msdiscount.com

They only sell parallel machine files in sets. These sets consist of the
following types: round, square, crossing, oval, pillar, half-round,
knife, cant, 3-square, pippin, equalling, crochet. Sets come in two
widths. 3/16 and 3/8, all files 8" long 6" length of cut. 12 per set and
choice of three cuts, 00, 0 & 2. All sets are $96. These files are
European (probably from Czechoslovakia). Part nos:
00 0 2
3/16" 1825100 1825110 1825102
3/8" 1825200 1825210 1825202
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Tooling Enterprises
1780 Corporate Drive
Norcross, GA 30093
(770) 564-0698

Tooling Enterprises apparently is a company which is affiliated with
Warrensville File & Knife. Dave at Warrensville File says that Nicholson,
although they still show parallel machine files in their catalog, have
marked those part numbers "discontinued" on their price sheet. The only
other US file manufacturer, Simonds, discontinued production years ago.
They only know of 2 other manufacturers in the world. One is a Swiss
company, who have cut back production significantly, and the other is
Warrensville File's plant in India. They offer E-sized files (8" machine
files) in 00 only, but they can also supply blanks so their customers can
have them diamond coated if they wish. Neither Warrensville File nor
Tooling Enterprises currently support online ordering for machine files.

Here is their product line and pricing (in USD, August 2004):

Cut Diamond
Parallel Machine Files for Die Filer 00 PRICE 120G PRICE
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Round 8" x 3/16" 70206 9.17 89250 38.50
Round 8" x 1/4" 70209 9.58 89251 40.25
Round 8" x 3/8" 70211 10.00 89252 42.00
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Half Round 8" x 1/4" x 1/8" 70204 16.67 52086 70.00
Half Round 8" x 3/8" x 3/16" 70202 17.50 89249 73.50
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Equalling 8" x 3/8" x 3/16" 70200 11.67 89248 49.90
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Pillar 8" x 3/8" x 3/16" 70224 12.50 89256 51.67
Pillar 8" x 1/2" x 1/4" 70225 15.00 89257 55.00
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Crochet 8" x 3/8" x 3/16" 70160 12.50 89247 52.50
------------------------------------------------------------------
Square 8" x 1/4" 70212 10.42 89246 43.75
Square 8" x 3/8" 70213 10.83 89245 45.50
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Three Square 8" x 3/16" 70215 11.67 89244 49.00
Three Square 8" x 1/4" 70216 12.08 89243 50.75
Three Square 8" x 3/8" 70217 12.50 89242 52.50
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Knife 8" x 1/2" x 1/8" 70218 15.00 40017 55.00

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Oliver Instrument Company
831 Division Street
PO Box 189
Adrian, MI 49221
517-263-2132 (voice)
517-265-8698 (fax)

They carry parallel machine files but apparently have very little stock.
They sent me a price list in early August 2004:

QTY AVAILABLE
SIZE/SHAPE #2 #0 #00 PRICE EA.
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Oval 0 0 1 $30.30
Lozenge 20 0 10 $35.40
Cant 22 4 0 $31.67
3/16" Half Round 0 41 5 $25.50
1/4" Half Round 15 0 0 $26.50
3/8" Half Round 0 1 0 $27.20
1/4" Round 16 0 0 $18.00
3/16" Square 5 14 0 $24.20
3/8" Square 30 0 0 $27.20
3/16" Three Square 5 2 0 $24.20
1/4" Three Square 9 0 0 $25.00
3/16" Crochet 0 1 0 $29.00
1/4" Crochet 2 0 0 $29.30
3/8" Crochet 31 0 0 $29.90

Oliver Instrument also carries saws for die filers equipped with the
overarm spring-loaded saw attachment:

SAW BLADES FOR BENCH AND SMALL PEDESTAL MACHINES
3/16" x 4-1/2" x .025" 14, 18 teeth per inch at $8.00 per doz.
1/4" x 4-1/2" x .025" 14, 18, 24, 32 teeth per inch at $8.00 per doz.
3/8" x 4-1/2" x .025" 14, 18, 24 teeth per inch at $8.20 per doz.
1/2" x 4-1/2" x .025" 14, 18, 24 teeth per inch at $8.60 per doz.

They write:
"Prices quoted are F.O.B. Adrian, Michigan. We accept Visa and MasterCard."
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Federal File Co., Inc.
3354 Winbrook Drive, Memphis TN 38116
Toll Free 1-800-238-3146
Tel. (901) 346-4433 Fax. (901) 396-7941
http://www.fedfile.com/index.htm

In August 2004 they showed a complete line of parallel machine files on
their Web page http://www.fedfile.com/parallel.htm but when I called them
to inquire they said that right now they are completely out of stock but
that they are planning to bring production up within 3-4 months. They say
they will sell to individuals, and that although their focus will be on
selling sets of 12 files, they will sell individual files. They encourage
people to call them to let them know what they're looking for.

Contrary to hand files, machine die filers cut on the DOWN stroke. For my
American die filer, I make my own from standard hand files by breaking them
in half and silver-brazing the end into a 1/4-inch round steel bar about an
inch long with a 3/16 inch drilled hole in one end for a new tang made by
grinding down the stock. But thanks to Grant Erwin's survey, you can still
find some old stock around. Dave