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Richard Lewis December 16th 04 10:09 AM

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:53:57 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:


every vote was
inspected by hand


Nope.
Enron's planes were VERY busy flying the shrubbies lawyers & goons
about.
The recount was blocked.


There were a total of SIX recounts using successively different
criteria as set down by the dems....and they lost all six. Only
number seven was blocked....and that one would have discounted ALL
non-democrat votes.

ral






Someone was very scared of one it seems
.....
--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 16th 04 10:18 AM

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:53:57 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:


Fact is that the ballot was designed by a democrat who headed
a democrat heavy committee. They then blamed the faulty machines that
didn't register democrat votes..


Cites? Or just more endless winger lies?


Cites for what? To prove that it was a democrat who designed the
ballot? Do a search on "Theresa LePore".

LePore had only worked in appointed office and for the democratic
machine for over thirty years. After being blamed by the democrats
for the ballot, she switched to independent.

Those claims I made have only been carried by every news service in
the US oh, about a million times.

If you think you can *disprove* one of them, feel free to do
so....until then, you crying like a baby and denying history is
nothing new.

ral
--
Cliff





Cliff December 16th 04 11:40 AM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:09:31 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:53:57 GMT,
(Richard
Lewis) wrote:


every vote was
inspected by hand


Nope.
Enron's planes were VERY busy flying the shrubbies lawyers & goons
about.
The recount was blocked.


There were a total of SIX recounts using successively different
criteria as set down by the dems....and they lost all six. Only
number seven was blocked....and that one would have discounted ALL
non-democrat votes.


Then why was the shrubbie so scared?
Better check your *total* facts ......
--
Cliff


Cliff December 16th 04 11:42 AM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:18:34 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:53:57 GMT,
(Richard
Lewis) wrote:


Fact is that the ballot was designed by a democrat who headed
a democrat heavy committee. They then blamed the faulty machines that
didn't register democrat votes..


Cites? Or just more endless winger lies?


Cites for what? To prove that it was a democrat who designed the
ballot? Do a search on "Theresa LePore".

LePore had only worked in appointed office and for the democratic
machine for over thirty years. After being blamed by the democrats
for the ballot, she switched to independent.

Those claims I made have only been carried by every news service in
the US oh, about a million times.

If you think you can *disprove* one of them, feel free to do
so....until then, you crying like a baby and denying history is
nothing new.

ral
--
Cliff


Actually, I wondered what it had to do with anything G.
BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.
--
Cliff

Cliff December 16th 04 03:31 PM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:51:35 GMT, Lady Chatterly
wrote:

In article Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:09:31 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:53:57 GMT,
(Richard
Lewis) wrote:

every vote was
inspected by hand

Nope.
Enron's planes were VERY busy flying the shrubbies lawyers & goons
about.
The recount was blocked.

There were a total of SIX recounts using successively different
criteria as set down by the dems....and they lost all six. Only
number seven was blocked....and that one would have discounted ALL
non-democrat votes.


Then why was the shrubbie so scared?
Better check your *total* facts ......


Was that a brain fart? Or did you have something to say?


He's trying to blame te "Dems" for the Republicans in power
(Florida Secretary of State IIRC) not maintaining their voting
equipment (or sending suspect equipment certain places).
That's my guess, anyway G.
--
Cliff

Richard Lewis December 16th 04 06:32 PM

Cliff wrote:

Then why was the shrubbie so scared?


Scared of what? Another recount using entirely different criteria
than the first six?

Better check your *total* facts ......


Facts about what? That there were six recounts that the dems lost
every one of?

ral


--
Cliff





Richard Lewis December 16th 04 06:34 PM

Cliff wrote:

He's trying to blame te "Dems" for the Republicans in power


No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple fact that more
people wanted Bush in power than gore.

That one simple fact still trumps all the whining and crying the dems
have been doing.

And you're replying to a bot there, Cliff.

ral




Richard Lewis December 16th 04 06:36 PM

Cliff wrote:

Actually, I wondered what it had to do with anything G.


If you had no point, why did you waste my time, idiot?

BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.


You look like a crying democrap. So?

ral


--
Cliff




Cliff December 17th 04 12:04 AM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:32:30 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Then why was the shrubbie so scared?


Scared of what? Another recount using entirely different criteria
than the first six?

Better check your *total* facts ......


Facts about what? That there were six recounts that the dems lost
every one of?

ral


--
Cliff




You think you can correct simple sums by counting
them often enough?
BTW, You need to learn how to post.
--
Cliff

Cliff December 17th 04 12:08 AM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:34:40 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

He's trying to blame te "Dems" for the Republicans in power


No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple fact that more
people wanted Bush in power than gore.


Any idea who won the popular vote?

That one simple fact still trumps all the whining and crying the dems
have been doing.


Half the populatinon has an IQ below 100. Those the ones
that voted for the shrubbie? Felt right at home?

And you're replying to a bot there, Cliff.


Sometimes she makes more sense than any winger.

(I'd also deleted the post "she" quoted .. pretty handy post G)

ral


BTW, You need to learn to post properly.
--
Cliff


Cliff December 17th 04 12:09 AM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:36:35 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Actually, I wondered what it had to do with anything G.


If you had no point, why did you waste my time, idiot?


It was your post VBG.

BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.


You look like a crying democrap. So?

ral


--
Cliff


BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.
--
Cliff

Richard Lewis December 17th 04 02:48 AM

Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:34:40 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:


Cliff wrote:

He's trying to blame te "Dems" for the Republicans in power


No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple fact that more
people wanted Bush in power than gore.


Any idea who won the popular vote?


Any idea on why the electoral college system exists?

That one simple fact still trumps all the whining and crying the dems
have been doing.


Half the populatinon has an IQ below 100. Those the ones
that voted for the shrubbie? Felt right at home?


They do not....and since you made that mistaken statement, I'll assume
that you didn't vote for Bush, right?

BTW, You need to learn to post properly.


Define "post properly".

ral
--
Cliff





Richard Lewis December 17th 04 02:50 AM

Cliff wrote:

You think you can correct simple sums by counting
them often enough?


So you're admitting that there was no need for six recounts and that a
seventh was equally as idiotic?

Nuff said.

BTW, You need to learn how to post.


Really? Seems my posts show up just fine. What would you have me
change?

ral
--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 17th 04 02:52 AM

Cliff wrote:

It was your post VBG.


What was my post?

BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.


You're beginning to look like an idiot. What's your point?

ral
--
Cliff




PrecisionMachinisT December 17th 04 05:20 AM


"Richard Lewis" wrote in message
ink.net...
Cliff wrote:


Snip


BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.


You're beginning to look like an idiot. What's your point?


Richard,

A proper sig line :

--

SVL

" Education, n.: That which discloses the wise and disguises from the
foolish their lack of understanding......."
--Ambrose Bierce



Cliff December 17th 04 11:49 AM

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:48:04 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:34:40 GMT,
(Richard
Lewis) wrote:


Cliff wrote:

He's trying to blame te "Dems" for the Republicans in power

No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple fact that more
people wanted Bush in power than gore.


Any idea who won the popular vote?


Any idea on why the electoral college system exists?


Ummm .. what does that have to do with your claim that
Herr shrubbie won the popular vote against Gore?

Evasion or confusion?


That one simple fact still trumps all the whining and crying the dems
have been doing.


Half the populatinon has an IQ below 100. Those the ones
that voted for the shrubbie? Felt right at home?


They do not....


Which half are you "thinking" of?

and since you made that mistaken statement, I'll assume
that you didn't vote for Bush, right?

BTW, You need to learn to post properly.


Define "post properly".

ral
--
Cliff




See the sigs & search for "cutlined usenet posts" I
suppose.

HTH
--
Cliff

Cliff December 17th 04 11:50 AM

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:50:08 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You think you can correct simple sums by counting
them often enough?


So you're admitting that there was no need for six recounts and that a
seventh was equally as idiotic?


You need to review the facts.
--
Cliff

Cliff December 17th 04 11:50 AM

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:52:31 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

BTW, You need to learn how to post. You look like a winger.


You're beginning to look like an idiot. What's your point?

ral
--
Cliff


--
Cliff

Richard Lewis December 18th 04 06:41 PM

Cliff wrote:

Ummm .. what does that have to do with your claim that
Herr shrubbie won the popular vote against Gore?


Now you resort to lies, dude?

You were the one who raised the "popular vote" issue. I said in the
six recounts, Bush won all of them.

Feel free to disprove that any time you feel like it.

Evasion or confusion?



That one simple fact still trumps all the whining and crying the dems
have been doing.


Half the populatinon has an IQ below 100. Those the ones
that voted for the shrubbie? Felt right at home?


They do not....


Which half are you "thinking" of?


The one named "Bell". You should get to know him before making such
bull**** statements. Stops you from looking like an idiot.

ral


Richard Lewis December 18th 04 06:42 PM

Cliff wrote:

You need to review the facts.


The fact that there were six recounts and that Bush won all of them?
Only fact that matters....it totally disproves you.

ral

--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 18th 04 06:44 PM

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote:

Richard,


A proper sig line :


--


SVL


Ahhhhhh I get it. Thanks, PMT!

I've never used sigs....been posting the same way since 92/93. It was
"proper" then and it's still "proper" enough for me.

ral





PrecisionMachinisT December 18th 04 07:01 PM


"Richard Lewis" wrote in message
nk.net...
"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote:

Richard,


A proper sig line :



Ahhhhhh I get it. Thanks, PMT!

I've never used sigs....been posting the same way since 92/93. It was
"proper" then and it's still "proper" enough for me.


No prob as far as IM concerned, but I have heard it messes up most usenet
statistics tracking software as well as perhaps causing problems with
certain newsreader clients.

--

SVL



Guido December 18th 04 08:38 PM

Richard Lewis wrote:


Any idea on why the electoral college system exists?


It was part of a deal up by Madison et al to allow the slave
owning states to retain an influence in the Fedral
government based on 3/5 of the slave population whilst at
the same time discounting that same population when it came
to apportioning taxes.

Is that your point?


Cliff December 19th 04 01:56 PM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:41:33 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Ummm .. what does that have to do with your claim that
Herr shrubbie won the popular vote against Gore?


Now you resort to lies, dude?

You were the one who raised the "popular vote" issue. I said in the
six recounts, Bush won all of them.


You posted "No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore." which
would be the popular vote, right?

To which I responded: "Any idea who won the popular vote?"
Bush got a total of 50,456,002 (47.87%) and Gore got a total
of 50,999,897 (48.38%).

To my way of thinking 50,999,897 is a larger number than
50,456,002 and 48.38% is larger than 47.87%.

This clearly demonstrates that YOUR statement "the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore."
is in fact a lie.

Do you winger always lie?


Feel free to disprove that any time you feel like it.


See how very simple it is to catch wingers in lies?

Then they lie about telling the lies ...... no actual
facts needed in *their* stupid claims, just "Prove it's
not so."

The National Bird of wingers:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...es/jcan15l.jpg


Evasion or confusion?



That one simple fact still trumps all the whining and crying the dems
have been doing.

Half the populatinon has an IQ below 100. Those the ones
that voted for the shrubbie? Felt right at home?

They do not....


Which half are you "thinking" of?


The one named "Bell". You should get to know him before making such
bull**** statements. Stops you from looking like an idiot.

ral


I already know well which half you are in. And that
you know nothing of the subject or the function Y=e((-X)**2).
--
Cliff

Cliff December 19th 04 01:57 PM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:42:38 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You need to review the facts.


The fact that there were six recounts and that Bush won all of them?
Only fact that matters....it totally disproves you.


You need to review the facts.
HTH
--
Cliff

Cliff December 19th 04 02:09 PM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:44:52 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote:

Richard,


A proper sig line :


--


SVL


Ahhhhhh I get it. Thanks, PMT!

I've never used sigs....been posting the same way since 92/93. It was
"proper" then and it's still "proper" enough for me.

ral


You should be able to set it in your defaults, somewhere, I'd
guess, assuming that you can read & comprehend the instructions.
It's probably never been "proper". You've probably just been
in groups of idiots (misc.survivalism & alt.toys.gi-joe I'd guess)
(and it shows).

HTH
--
Cliff


Richard Lewis December 19th 04 09:04 PM

Cliff wrote:

You posted "No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore." which
would be the popular vote, right?


To which I responded: "Any idea who won the popular vote?"
Bush got a total of 50,456,002 (47.87%) and Gore got a total
of 50,999,897 (48.38%).


So you have to take a thread ON THE SIX FLORIDA RECOUNTS, and
reinterpret it to mean "national popular vote"?

Typical democrap bull****.

Oh, I know, you made a mistake. You weren't really*trying* to
bull**** anyone.

This clearly demonstrates that YOUR statement "the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore."
is in fact a lie.


So you're still saying that gore won the six recounts?

Like I said, idiot, feel free to disprove that anytime you want.

Do you winger always lie?


Do you democraps always bull****?

I already know well which half you are in. And that
you know nothing of the subject or the function Y=e((-X)**2).


Function? Doesn't take any function to understand that "half the
populatinon has an IQ below 100" is only possibly true if there are
none that are 100....and since the national average *is* 100 and Mr.
Bell called you an idiot, too.....

ral

--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 19th 04 09:07 PM

Guido wrote:

It was part of a deal up by Madison et al to allow the slave
owning states to retain an influence in the Fedral
government based on 3/5 of the slave population whilst at
the same time discounting that same population when it came
to apportioning taxes.


Is that your point?


Nopers, but good post none the less.

My point was that dems seem to embrace the electoral college system
everytime except when it goes against *them* and then they can't curse
it long or loud enough.

ral






Richard Lewis December 19th 04 09:07 PM

Cliff wrote:

You need to review the facts.


So you're saying Bush *DIDN'T* win all six recounts?

Cites?

ral
HTH
--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 19th 04 09:09 PM

Cliff wrote:

You should be able to set it in your defaults, somewhere,


Or not.

I like the not part better.

ral







Bob Brock December 19th 04 11:13 PM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:07:42 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You need to review the facts.


So you're saying Bush *DIDN'T* win all six recounts?


Damn, I didn't know that Bush lost the 2000 election. No wonder he
and his minions think that having actually won this one he has a
popular mandate to abort the Constitution.

Thanks, that explains a lot.

Ed Huntress December 20th 04 02:01 AM

"Bob Brock" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:07:42 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You need to review the facts.


So you're saying Bush *DIDN'T* win all six recounts?


Damn, I didn't know that Bush lost the 2000 election. No wonder he
and his minions think that having actually won this one he has a
popular mandate to abort the Constitution.


Huh? He DID lose the 2000 election, by hundreds of thousands of votes. Where
were you at the time? g

What he won was the vote of the Electoral College. And, as James Carville
said, "Back in 2000 a Republican friend warned me that if I voted for Al
Gore and he won, the stock market would tank, we'd lose millions of jobs,
and our military would be totally overstretched. You know what? I did vote
for Gore, he did win, and I'll be damned if all those things didn't come
true!"

Thanks, that explains a lot.


You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Ed Huntress



Cliff December 20th 04 10:27 AM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:01:14 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

Thanks, that explains a lot.


You ain't seen nothin' yet.


What do you expect next, Ed? Or at least see hints
of?
--
Cliff


Cliff December 20th 04 10:37 AM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:04:37 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You posted "No, you're trying to blame everything except the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore." which
would be the popular vote, right?


To which I responded: "Any idea who won the popular vote?"
Bush got a total of 50,456,002 (47.87%) and Gore got a total
of 50,999,897 (48.38%).


So you have to take a thread ON THE SIX FLORIDA RECOUNTS, and
reinterpret it to mean "national popular vote"?


The thread seems to be titled "OT - "Cites" for Gunner".

YOU said "more people wanted Bush in power than gore",
not I VBG.

Don't the votes count? Don't you?

Typical democrap bull****.


Too bad that you don't like how the popular vote came out
or democracy.
Or were you talking about being able to actually count or know
which number is larger?

Oh, I know, you made a mistake. You weren't really*trying* to
bull**** anyone.


IF you think that the numbers are in error take it up with those
that counted the votes. Or the shrubbie's lawyers that got the
feared recounts stopped so many times.

This clearly demonstrates that YOUR statement "the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore."
is in fact a lie.


So you're still saying that gore won the six recounts?


50,999,897 50,456,002

Like I said, idiot, feel free to disprove that anytime you want.


50,999,897 50,456,002

Do you winger always lie?


Do you democraps always bull****?


50,999,897 50,456,002

I already know well which half you are in. And that
you know nothing of the subject or the function Y=e((-X)**2).


Function? Doesn't take any function to understand that "half the
populatinon has an IQ below 100" is only possibly true if there are
none that are 100....and since the national average *is* 100 and Mr.
Bell called you an idiot, too.....


Can you count to 100?
Do you know what decimals are?

ral

--
Cliff



You need to learn how to post.
--
Cliff

Cliff December 20th 04 10:40 AM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:07:42 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You need to review the facts.


So you're saying Bush *DIDN'T* win all six recounts?

Cites?


"OT - "Cites" for Gunner"

Were the recounts ever finished?
Or are you thinking of all those lawyers on Enron's planes
or the Supreme Court?

How many precincts were actually fully recounted? All of them?
--
Cliff

Cliff December 20th 04 10:49 AM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:09:18 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

You should be able to set it in your defaults, somewhere,


Or not.

I like the not part better.

ral





See "Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 20 Dec 2004"
[
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
......
......
]
--
Cliff

Richard Lewis December 20th 04 07:16 PM

Cliff wrote:

The thread seems to be titled "OT - "Cites" for Gunner".


Bu tyou didn't reply to *that* thread. The thread *you* replied to
started off with "In 2000, the whiners and the babies (read that as
democrats) blamed
the loss of florida on the great republican plot with the butterfly
ballot." and you began to question the facts ON FLORIDA.

YOU said "more people wanted Bush in power than gore",
not I VBG.


In the Florida recounts that are/were the topic, idiot.

Don't the votes count? Don't you?


Typical democrap bull****.


Too bad that you don't like how the popular vote came out
or democracy.


The national popular vote means nothing....you said you understood the
electoral college. The popular vote in Florida, which is the topic,
you lost.

Go whine somewhere else.

IF you think that the numbers are in error take it up with those
that counted the votes. Or the shrubbie's lawyers that got the
feared recounts stopped so many times.


There were six recounts.....you lost every one, idiot.

This clearly demonstrates that YOUR statement "the simple
fact that more people wanted Bush in power than gore."
is in fact a lie.


So you're still saying that gore won the six recounts?


50,999,897 50,456,002


One hundred million people voted in Florida then?

Like I said, idiot, feel free to disprove that anytime you want.


50,999,897 50,456,002


Do you winger always lie?


Do you democraps always bull****?


50,999,897 50,456,002


I already know well which half you are in. And that
you know nothing of the subject or the function Y=e((-X)**2).


Function? Doesn't take any function to understand that "half the
populatinon has an IQ below 100" is only possibly true if there are
none that are 100....and since the national average *is* 100 and Mr.
Bell called you an idiot, too.....


Can you count to 100?
Do you know what decimals are?


IQ's aren't registered in decimals, idiot.

For your statement to be true, that half the pop has an IQ of less
than 100, there can be NONE that are 100 even. Your statement is
bull**** and proven so.

ral

--
Cliff



You need to learn how to post.


You need to learn more than that one trick, pony. It's getting old.

ral
--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 20th 04 07:20 PM

Cliff wrote:

Were the recounts ever finished?


Six of them, with progressively looser criteria for counting,
were....and you democrap idiots lost them all. Number seven was
stopped.

Or are you thinking of all those lawyers on Enron's planes
or the Supreme Court?


How many precincts were actually fully recounted? All of them?


You democrap idiots didn't want ALL of them recounted. You only
wanted to recount the ones that might give the democrap candidate more
votes....which they didn't. ALL the precincts that the democraps
asked for a recount in were recounted multiple times.

ral
--
Cliff




Richard Lewis December 20th 04 07:24 PM

Cliff wrote:

See "Statistics for alt.machines.cnc, 20 Dec 2004"
[
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.


So? Besides more useless bull****, what's your point?

ral

.....
.....
]
--
Cliff




Bob Brock December 20th 04 09:18 PM

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:45 GMT, (Richard
Lewis) wrote:

Cliff wrote:

The thread seems to be titled "OT - "Cites" for Gunner".


Bu tyou didn't reply to *that* thread.


OK....who changed the "subject" line back to "OT - Cites for Gunner"
then? Don't let little things like reality creep in on you ral...


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