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![]() larry g wrote: George We use a lot of the Frelon, Simplicity. bearings. Used a lot on our automation equipment and they do quite well on oscillating equipment. In most cases I would select them over a Thompson ball bearing. I say this because when a Thompson fails it usually tales the shaft with it, the Frelon doesn't. If you read the information from Simplicity you discover that you can run these bearing dry or lubed. In most cases lubed gets a lot longer life. I've used Velocite #6 with good results. If designing these in a system really consider the use of the self aligning feature. This is an oversized hole to mount in and then using an o-ring in the groves around the bearing. Another advantage to the Simplicity bearing is the ability to rotate the shaft as well as linier motion. lg no neat sig line. "George G." wrote in message ... I posted last night and it got pushed back to 601-700 posting with no response. I asked if anyone has had any experience with the Teflon, Frelon self-lubricating linear bearings? Are they as good if not better than metal linear bearings? I may have to go this one alone. Thank you. George G. |
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![]() larry g wrote: George We use a lot of the Frelon, Simplicity. bearings. Used a lot on our automation equipment and they do quite well on oscillating equipment. In most cases I would select them over a Thompson ball bearing. I say this because when a Thompson fails it usually tales the shaft with it, the Frelon doesn't. If you read the information from Simplicity you discover that you can run these bearing dry or lubed. In most cases lubed gets a lot longer life. I've used Velocite #6 with good results. If designing these in a system really consider the use of the self aligning feature. This is an oversized hole to mount in and then using an o-ring in the groves around the bearing. Another advantage to the Simplicity bearing is the ability to rotate the shaft as well as linier motion. lg no neat sig line. "George G." wrote in message ... I posted last night and it got pushed back to 601-700 posting with no response. I asked if anyone has had any experience with the Teflon, Frelon self-lubricating linear bearings? Are they as good if not better than metal linear bearings? I may have to go this one alone. Thank you. George G. George, My name is Mike Quinn and I am the Marketing Director for LM76 Linear Motion Bearings - www.lm76.com. LM76 invented the first drop-in replacement for Thomson Ball Bushings in 1976. Our Minuteman Teflon Composite linear motion bearings offer the highest load rating, highest running speed and lowest coefficient of friction of any Teflon Composite made today. Larry is quite correct in recommending a teflon Composite for applications which require rapid oscillation. Thomson Ball bushings fail because the balls do not get an opportunity to fully recirculate - you end up using the same balls over and over again. Also, the balls begin to rack leading to mechanical failure and brinelling ( grooving of the shaft ). This was LM76's first application in 76 and Thomson recommended us to their customer! Concerning lubrication. Yes...you can run dry or with a lubricant. The obvious rational for a Teflon Composite is to be lube free. If you can lube, our "original" Ceramic Coated bearing is the first choice. ( see our web site ) LM76 Minuteman Self Lube Bearings excel in the following applications: Rapid Oscillation Contamination High Loads ( 10x's higher than a comparable ball bushing ) Smooth, quiet operation ( no noise and no vibration ) Wash Down Linear and Rotary Motion in one bearing Keep in mind that Thomson ball Bushings will always have a meaningful lower coeffient of friction ( .0015 - .015 as opposed to Teflon Composite .09 - 1.5 ) If you can lubricate, our Ceramic Coated bearing is ideal ( .04-.08 ). Moreover, sleeve bearings are less forgiving with regard to shaft alignment - Ball Bushings are more compliant - particularly in a vertical axis. Thus, a self aligning bearing may be the best option. Sleeve bearings require greater spacing of the shafts and distance between bearings on one shaft when moment loads are applied. If you have any questions I can answer, please feel free to call me at 1-800-513-3163. Best regards, Mike Quinn |
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Larry,
I suspect that you will want to use standard pillow block mounting - correct? If so, we can give you pretty good pricing on both the bearings and the shafting. If you have a housing that you are going to press the bearings into, then you could use a standard Rulon bearing which will run dry and provide an excellent coefficient of friction - we have them in stock. You could use UHMW, but you would have to machine it to the correct tolerances - all said and done a standard Rulon LR should do the job. You will have to use standard RC60 shafting. Regards, Mike Quinn www.lm76.com 800-513-3163 |
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On 9 Dec 2004 18:34:54 -0800, calmly ranted:
Larry, I suspect that you will want to use standard pillow block mounting - correct? If so, we can give you pretty good pricing on both the bearings and the shafting. If you have a housing that you are going to press the bearings into, then you could use a standard Rulon bearing which will run dry and provide an excellent coefficient of friction - we have them in stock. You could use UHMW, but you would have to machine it to the correct tolerances - all said and done a standard Rulon LR should do the job. You will have to use standard RC60 shafting. Regards, Mike Quinn www.lm76.com 800-513-3163 Thanks, Mike. I'll give you a call tomorrow, Friday. ================================================== ============ Like peace and quiet? Buy a phoneless cord. http://www/diversify.com/stees.html Hilarious T-shirts online ================================================== ============ |
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Larry, you may want to look into LM76 Linear Motion Bearings.
www.lm76.com They invented the first drop-in replacement for Thomson Ball Bushings in 1976. Moreover, they have a wider variety of bearing models and their mechanicals exceed all of the Frelon grades: regular freelon and freelon gold. Mike Q |
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