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Ivan Vegvary September 6th 04 10:46 PM

Sewing machine oil (metal content)
 
I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?

Is there anything special about sewing machine oil? Local Ace is open but I
don't want to buy 20 small tins of "3-in-1" oil.

Fast advice appreciated. Thank you!!

Ivan Vegvary



Ned Simmons September 6th 04 10:59 PM

In article AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09,
says...
I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?


I'd use almost anything *but* way oil (well, maybe not
chainsaw bar oil eitherg)--it's way too heavy and the
additives that make it tacky tend to clog wicks and such. I
think spindle oil would be a pretty close match to sewing
machine oil. Light hydraulic oil, light turbine oil, or ATF
(though it does contain detergents), in that order IMO,
would be also be OK.

Ned Simmons

Robert Nichols September 7th 04 02:15 AM

In article AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09,
Ivan Vegvary wrote:
:I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
:pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
:and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
:Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that I
:use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
:the "way" oil and then replace it later?
:
:Is there anything special about sewing machine oil? Local Ace is open but I
:don't want to buy 20 small tins of "3-in-1" oil.

Sewing machine oil is usually a vegetable-based light colored oil so
that any small amounts that get on the fabric won't leave a permanent
mark.

--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "rnichols42"

Andy Dingley September 7th 04 02:23 AM

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:46:08 GMT, "Ivan Vegvary"
wrote:

Is there anything special about sewing machine oil?


Yes. Use the right stuff. Maybe if you have some gyroscope oil, or
aircraft insturment oil.

3-in-1 is just _asking_ for trouble. It's too thick to start with,
then it gets worse with age and oxidation.
--
Smert' spamionam

Ivan Vegvary September 7th 04 03:48 AM

Thanks for all the above advice.
I did happened to have a gallon of spindle oil, so I used some of that.
Will change when stores open tomorrow.

Thanks,
Ivan Vegvary
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09...
I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that

I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?

Is there anything special about sewing machine oil? Local Ace is open but

I
don't want to buy 20 small tins of "3-in-1" oil.

Fast advice appreciated. Thank you!!

Ivan Vegvary





jim rozen September 7th 04 04:12 AM

In article AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09, Ivan Vegvary says...

I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?


As you've correctly surmised, way oil is too viscous for this
application. FWIW Ms. Mulligan's singer featherweight gets lubed
with 5wt ATF on a regular basis. This does not impair the
apparent quality of the quilts produced.

Jim


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Jack September 7th 04 05:45 AM

Hi Guys,
I don't know about Oil in the USA but from an old retired Sewing Machine
Mechanic in New Zealand we always used "Mobil DTE light" I would think you
would have something similar. Any good "Light" Hydraulic oil
would do.
Jack
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:3k9%c.5694$PK3.1372@trnddc08...
Thanks for all the above advice.
I did happened to have a gallon of spindle oil, so I used some of that.
Will change when stores open tomorrow.

Thanks,
Ivan Vegvary
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09...
I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for

college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil

that
I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I

use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?

Is there anything special about sewing machine oil? Local Ace is open

but
I
don't want to buy 20 small tins of "3-in-1" oil.

Fast advice appreciated. Thank you!!

Ivan Vegvary







Don Foreman September 7th 04 05:55 AM

Mary also quilts with a featherweight. Quilters do seem to love that
machine. Fitch has two of 'em.

Dr. Willy, the itinerant pretty-good sewingmachine repair and tuneup
guy, uses Tri-Flo -- in a little squeezebottle with a very finebore
tube rather than the spraycan. He does seem to know what he's doing,
surely knows far more than I do about sewing machines. He visits a
nearby fabric shop every other Thursday on his route. Other than
routine cleaning and lubrication, we entrust the care and tuning of
Mary's featherweights and 301's to Dr. Willy.



On 6 Sep 2004 20:12:03 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09, Ivan Vegvary says...

I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?


As you've correctly surmised, way oil is too viscous for this
application. FWIW Ms. Mulligan's singer featherweight gets lubed
with 5wt ATF on a regular basis. This does not impair the
apparent quality of the quilts produced.

Jim



Jim Stewart September 7th 04 04:54 PM

Ned Simmons wrote:
In article AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09,
says...

I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?



I'd use almost anything *but* way oil (well, maybe not
chainsaw bar oil eitherg)--


Ya wouldn't want to use steam cylinder oil either (:

jim rozen September 7th 04 05:10 PM

In article , Don Foreman says...

Mary also quilts with a featherweight. Quilters do seem to love that
machine. Fitch has two of 'em.

Dr. Willy, the itinerant pretty-good sewingmachine repair and tuneup
guy, uses Tri-Flo -- in a little squeezebottle with a very finebore
tube rather than the spraycan. He does seem to know what he's doing,
surely knows far more than I do about sewing machines. He visits a
nearby fabric shop every other Thursday on his route. Other than
routine cleaning and lubrication, we entrust the care and tuning of
Mary's featherweights and 301's to Dr. Willy.


I use the 5wt ATF in a glass hypodermic syringe to lube
those machines. It's a great way to get that 'just one
drop' that's required in some spots. Plastic syringes
degrade and the plungers lock up on them after a while
being exposed to ATF though.

Jim


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Robert Swinney September 7th 04 05:14 PM

Check with a local sewing or fabric supply place (dry goods, maybe where the
ladies go for sewing stuff). Most of them, in the U.S. anyway, carry sewing
machine oil, labeled as such.

Bob Swinney
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:AU4%c.2878$Q44.1498@trnddc09...
I need to fill the bottom of my Juki sewing machine with oil (approx. 1
pint). Need it today (holiday) because my daughter is leaving for college
and I promised her that I would make a slip cover for her club chair.
Obviously, holiday and everybody is closed. Can I use the "way" oil that

I
use on my milling machine and lathe (required metal content). Could I use
the "way" oil and then replace it later?

Is there anything special about sewing machine oil? Local Ace is open but

I
don't want to buy 20 small tins of "3-in-1" oil.

Fast advice appreciated. Thank you!!

Ivan Vegvary





Ted Edwards September 8th 04 08:38 PM

jim rozen wrote:

I use the 5wt ATF in a glass hypodermic syringe to lube
those machines. It's a great way to get that 'just one
drop' that's required in some spots. Plastic syringes
degrade and the plungers lock up on them after a while
being exposed to ATF though.


Mineral oil, as sold in pharmacies, is water clear and a good lube.
There are two grades, light for body rubs, and heavy, for a laxative. I
found mixing them 50:50 gives a nice viscosity for a quenching oil while
the light (in a plastic syringe) is a good light instrument oil. If you
want a corrosion inhibiter additive as well then try CRC 3-36.

Ted



Charles A. Sherwood September 8th 04 09:04 PM

If you
want a corrosion inhibiter additive as well then try CRC 3-36.


I sprayed 3-36 on a couple machines. It tends to dry to a tacky
state. Not what I would want on a sewing machine.



Ned Simmons September 8th 04 09:59 PM

In article , cas@w-
sherwood.ih.lucent.com says...
If you
want a corrosion inhibiter additive as well then try CRC 3-36.


I sprayed 3-36 on a couple machines. It tends to dry to a tacky
state. Not what I would want on a sewing machine.


I've noticed the same thing, not necessarily a bad thing
for a protective coating, but I wouldn't use it as a sewing
machine lube either.

I once left a few small oilstones in a pool of 3-36 and it
congealed into a sort of waxy custard as it evaporated.

Ned Simmons

jim rozen September 8th 04 11:28 PM

In article , Ned Simmons
says...

I once left a few small oilstones in a pool of 3-36 and it
congealed into a sort of waxy custard as it evaporated.


ATF. High detergent, non-gumming. Available in handy
one quart containers at your local supermarket.

Jim


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Karl Vorwerk September 9th 04 11:55 AM

I had a knife maker friend who used old fryer oil to quench his blades. less
fire and smelled like french-fries.
Karl

"Ted Edwards" wrote in message
...
jim rozen wrote:

I use the 5wt ATF in a glass hypodermic syringe to lube
those machines. It's a great way to get that 'just one
drop' that's required in some spots. Plastic syringes
degrade and the plungers lock up on them after a while
being exposed to ATF though.


Mineral oil, as sold in pharmacies, is water clear and a good lube.
There are two grades, light for body rubs, and heavy, for a laxative. I
found mixing them 50:50 gives a nice viscosity for a quenching oil while
the light (in a plastic syringe) is a good light instrument oil. If you
want a corrosion inhibiter additive as well then try CRC 3-36.

Ted




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