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Robert Bodell wrote: I built a homemade AC/DC welder. I used some big 400 amp 250 volt diodes for the full wave bridge to get the DC. http://www.geocities.com/robert_bodell/welder.html It welds with a 1/16 to 5/32 rod fine and does stainless great too I heard that there was plans someplace that you could use an arc to get the HF necessary to weld aluminum with. You really need AC to weld aluminum. Do you have a TIG torch? There's no way to weld aluminum without it, unless you do it in a glove box filled with argon. I am not sure of this is before the transformer, after the transformer and before the diodes or after the diodes and in the welding leads. There are ways to add an HF system to a stick welder. Basically, you build a heavy-duty Tesla coil, with a neon sign transformer, spark gaps and an air-core resonant transformer. The secondary of the transformer is just a few turns of welding cable around the Tesla coil. There should be plans somewhere on the net for such a thing. If you are not very competent with REALLY dangerous electrical gear, this could be a real hazard. It also will likely wipe out any TV or radio reception for blocks. Jon |
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wrote: I built a homemade AC/DC welder. I used some big 400 amp 250 volt diodes for the full wave bridge to get the DC. http://www.geocities.com/robert_bodell/welder.html It welds with a 1/16 to 5/32 rod fine and does stainless great too I heard that there was plans someplace that you could use an arc to get the HF necessary to weld aluminum with. I am not sure of this is before the transformer, after the transformer and before the diodes or after the diodes and in the welding leads. Is there somebody here that could explain how that is built or guide me to the plans? thanks a bunch in advance. Please reply to the group and send a copy to rbodell AT tampabay DOT rr DOT com so I am sure to get it. I don't want to miss this. Bob Just hook up a readywelder spoolgun to your buzzbox to MIG weld aluminum easily. www.readywelder.com The model 10250 is the one you want. |
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Jon Elson wrote in message ...
Robert Bodell wrote: I built a homemade AC/DC welder. I used some big 400 amp 250 volt diodes for the full wave bridge to get the DC. http://www.geocities.com/robert_bodell/welder.html It welds with a 1/16 to 5/32 rod fine and does stainless great too I heard that there was plans someplace that you could use an arc to get the HF necessary to weld aluminum with. You really need AC to weld aluminum. Do you have a TIG torch? There's no way to weld aluminum without it, unless you do it in a glove box filled with argon. I am not sure of this is before the transformer, after the transformer and before the diodes or after the diodes and in the welding leads. There is a forum attached to www.diywelder.com. Several posters have built these things. In fact, there is a recent post with a neon sign transformer shown in photos (you have to register to see the photos). The HF setup is after the transformer and after the diodes. It is also after the DC welder choke. These kind of help with the arc stability. A capacitor is placed across the leads, and a large coil of heavy wire is placed in series after the capacitor. This coil is coupled to a coil of thinner wire, which is excited with a resonant spark gap oscillator. The oscillator is powered by a low frequency AC or a DC power source, and looks a lot like the primary circuit of a Tesla coil. There are ways to add an HF system to a stick welder. Basically, you build a heavy-duty Tesla coil, with a neon sign transformer, spark gaps and an air-core resonant transformer. The secondary of the transformer is just a few turns of welding cable around the Tesla coil. There should be plans somewhere on the net for such a thing. If you are not very competent with REALLY dangerous electrical gear, this could be a real hazard. It also will likely wipe out any TV or radio reception for blocks. Not too bad. I can think of a lot more dangerous electrical gear. There have been some recent posts on the above mentioned group by someone who claimed to get a working stabilizer with several milliwatts of HF. Commercial units like the Miller use about 100 watts, and as a result, the primary circuit poses a shock hazard. Microwave ovens, large capacitor banks used for pumping ruby rod or NdYAG lasers, and high voltage powerline thyristor converters seem much more dangerous. As for the RF emissions, as long as the Q of these circuits is fairly high, their interference is narrow band. Most homebuilders shoot for about 1 MHz. The claims of TV interference are usually caused by backflow along the power lines, and can easily be dealt with by means of HV side chokes, or AC line filters in reverse. In fact, if you are backfeeding that much power, you will probably burn out the gate driver resistor on the FET (if you are using a DC supply). Mine has two iron cored pye wound RF chokes in the HVDC bus to stop backfeeding. It seems to work. There is a small AC line filter as well. |
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Jon Elson wrote in message ...
Robert Bodell wrote: I built a homemade AC/DC welder. I used some big 400 amp 250 volt diodes for the full wave bridge to get the DC. http://www.geocities.com/robert_bodell/welder.html It welds with a 1/16 to 5/32 rod fine and does stainless great too I heard that there was plans someplace that you could use an arc to get the HF necessary to weld aluminum with. You really need AC to weld aluminum. Do you have a TIG torch? There's no way to weld aluminum without it, unless you do it in a glove box filled with argon. I am not sure of this is before the transformer, after the transformer and before the diodes or after the diodes and in the welding leads. There is a forum attached to www.diywelder.com. Several posters have built these things. In fact, there is a recent post with a neon sign transformer shown in photos (you have to register to see the photos). The HF setup is after the transformer and after the diodes. It is also after the DC welder choke. These kind of help with the arc stability. A capacitor is placed across the leads, and a large coil of heavy wire is placed in series after the capacitor. This coil is coupled to a coil of thinner wire, which is excited with a resonant spark gap oscillator. The oscillator is powered by a low frequency AC or a DC power source, and looks a lot like the primary circuit of a Tesla coil. There are ways to add an HF system to a stick welder. Basically, you build a heavy-duty Tesla coil, with a neon sign transformer, spark gaps and an air-core resonant transformer. The secondary of the transformer is just a few turns of welding cable around the Tesla coil. There should be plans somewhere on the net for such a thing. If you are not very competent with REALLY dangerous electrical gear, this could be a real hazard. It also will likely wipe out any TV or radio reception for blocks. Not too bad. I can think of a lot more dangerous electrical gear. There have been some recent posts on the above mentioned group by someone who claimed to get a working stabilizer with several milliwatts of HF. Commercial units like the Miller use about 100 watts, and as a result, the primary circuit poses a shock hazard. Microwave ovens, large capacitor banks used for pumping ruby rod or NdYAG lasers, and high voltage powerline thyristor converters seem much more dangerous. As for the RF emissions, as long as the Q of these circuits is fairly high, their interference is narrow band. Most homebuilders shoot for about 1 MHz. The claims of TV interference are usually caused by backflow along the power lines, and can easily be dealt with by means of HV side chokes, or AC line filters in reverse. In fact, if you are backfeeding that much power, you will probably burn out the gate driver resistor on the FET (if you are using a DC supply). Mine has two iron cored pye wound RF chokes in the HVDC bus to stop backfeeding. It seems to work. There is a small AC line filter as well. |
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On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 16:49:33 GMT, Robert Bodell wrote:
I did like that attachment for a DC machine. I might look into that. Does the gas take the place of the HF? Or do you still need the HF? Gas is always needed when TIG welding, argon, helium, or an argon/helium mix. You can TIG weld steel with DC- and without HF, but you want to use AC to TIG weld aluminum, and you need HF to stabilize the arc when using AC. It is possible to TIG weld thin aluminum using DC+ and no HF, but the torch will get very hot very quickly since the majority of the heat goes to the tungsten when using DC+. You'd need to use a large tungsten, and preferably a water cooled torch, if you try DC+ welding aluminum. Gary |
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