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On 5/25/2018 10:36 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:

On 5/21/2018 7:25 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2018 18:07:16 -0700, Bob La Londe
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Looking at a machine...Â* not working, but the price is right.Â* It looks
heavy though.Â* A lot heavier than my little Hurco KMB1... just looking
at it.Â* I'd guess easily twice the weight, but I do not know for sure.

Says its a Beijing Precision Machine Tool Works Type 1990 (Chinese
character) 9 (Chinese character).Â* If anybody knows what this

machine is
for sure and has specs on it I would sure appreciate it.

I'm trying to determine what it weighs, and some of the other specs to
decided if its worth the effort to try and go get it.

I've talked to a couple farmers I know who run trucks to the area.
Probably be a lot cheaper to haul it back on one of theirs than to hire
a rigger, but I'd have to arrange loading and unloading so their truck
isn't sitting their doing nothing.Â* I guess the distance at around 500
miles door to door, so its not a trivial across town plow and pray

move.

Its got a few things that make it look like it might be worth a long
term retrofit like I did with the KMB1 so many years back.


Got a link and photos?Â* At 28 yrs old..its not terribly old. Depending
on the size..small ones not so good..bigger ones..better..more
industrial use so they are built better...

first of all..is it CNC?Â* Whos guts is in it?Â* Fanuc? Heiderlien?
Great Noodle and Dragon Works?


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Its CNC.Â* Recognizable control.Â* Not "Yoo-CNC"Â* Sadly I may have missed
the opportunity.Â* Took me a couple days to arrange trucking options.Â* No
response since.


I just heard from the owner again today.

55x21x12 XYZ He thinks. That is big for me. Would be bigger than any
job I have done or had a quote request for. I get quote requests for
specific 14x14 plates fairly often. It would sure be nice to throw a
couple plates on the table and walk away.

4 or 5K spindle he says, but it has a FREQROL spindle controller that I
think is setup for 11K if I understand the pictures correctly. Has a
low gear for tapping. I suspect 4-5K may be in low gear.

Says the old owner told him (he bought a shop that includes this
non-working machine) they had to use a 15K forklift to move it. It
looks big, so I can believe its heavy.

The control console says Dynapath, and inside the cabinet is a cover
over "something" with data that says Dynapath, but the lower part of the
cabinet has an array of boards that look a lot like the Randtronics
boards I jerked out of the Hurco and eventually threw away.

I have to be honest though. I would probably gut it out and retrofit it
to something newer and easier for me to understand and service.

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On Thu, 31 May 2018 16:55:55 -0700, Bob La Londe
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On 5/25/2018 10:36 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:

On 5/21/2018 7:25 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2018 18:07:16 -0700, Bob La Londe
wrote:

Looking at a machine...* not working, but the price is right.* It looks
heavy though.* A lot heavier than my little Hurco KMB1... just looking
at it.* I'd guess easily twice the weight, but I do not know for sure.

Says its a Beijing Precision Machine Tool Works Type 1990 (Chinese
character) 9 (Chinese character).* If anybody knows what this

machine is
for sure and has specs on it I would sure appreciate it.

I'm trying to determine what it weighs, and some of the other specs to
decided if its worth the effort to try and go get it.

I've talked to a couple farmers I know who run trucks to the area.
Probably be a lot cheaper to haul it back on one of theirs than to hire
a rigger, but I'd have to arrange loading and unloading so their truck
isn't sitting their doing nothing.* I guess the distance at around 500
miles door to door, so its not a trivial across town plow and pray

move.

Its got a few things that make it look like it might be worth a long
term retrofit like I did with the KMB1 so many years back.


Got a link and photos?* At 28 yrs old..its not terribly old. Depending
on the size..small ones not so good..bigger ones..better..more
industrial use so they are built better...

first of all..is it CNC?* Whos guts is in it?* Fanuc? Heiderlien?
Great Noodle and Dragon Works?


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Its CNC.* Recognizable control.* Not "Yoo-CNC"* Sadly I may have missed
the opportunity.* Took me a couple days to arrange trucking options.* No
response since.


I just heard from the owner again today.

55x21x12 XYZ He thinks. That is big for me. Would be bigger than any
job I have done or had a quote request for. I get quote requests for
specific 14x14 plates fairly often. It would sure be nice to throw a
couple plates on the table and walk away.

4 or 5K spindle he says, but it has a FREQROL spindle controller that I
think is setup for 11K if I understand the pictures correctly. Has a
low gear for tapping. I suspect 4-5K may be in low gear.

Says the old owner told him (he bought a shop that includes this
non-working machine) they had to use a 15K forklift to move it. It
looks big, so I can believe its heavy.

The control console says Dynapath, and inside the cabinet is a cover
over "something" with data that says Dynapath, but the lower part of the
cabinet has an array of boards that look a lot like the Randtronics
boards I jerked out of the Hurco and eventually threw away.

I have to be honest though. I would probably gut it out and retrofit it
to something newer and easier for me to understand and service.


55x21 means it weighs at least 10,000 lbs. So keep that in mind when
figuring out a place to spot it.

It probably..probably has servo motors in it..BUT..they could be
steppers. And you will need to know which before ordering a Ah Ha
retrofitting kit for it.

Unless the ways are worn bowlegged..it will make a very nice machine.

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