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How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but
it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM:
If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On 8/24/2017 7:44 PM, EBsoZZ *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ TeRcSC wrote:
.... All you need to do is write an App ... OK .. got it. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 8:04 PM:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. As I said, it is very easy to make a rocket. North Korea's Hwasong rocket is using liquid hydrogen and oxygen. You can tell from the clean exhaust: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/RTX2OB9Q.jpg A rocket propels itself according to the theory of "Conservation of Momentum". It throws the mass out at high speed (the burning fuel) and the rockets accelerates in the opposite direction. The hydrogen and oxygen can by obtained by simple electrolysis of water. The gas valves and brass tubing can be bought in hardware store. Even the Palestinians can lob rockets at Israel (they just don't know how to control the flight path so their rockets zigzag wildly in the air). |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 9:38 PM:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Don't be fooled by your CIA. A rocket engine is a lot simpler than your car's reciprocating piston engine. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg/1000px-V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg.png |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until
- The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system that we the U.S.A. spent millions, hundreds of missiles and lives to get it right. Now North Korea has one ? And the physical packages and fuels from the Ukraine now ? This is getting out of hand. Martin On 8/24/2017 5:42 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM:
If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. that we the U.S.A. spent millions, hundreds of missiles and lives to get it right. Now North Korea has one ? And the physical packages and fuels from the Ukraine now ? This is getting out of hand. Martin On 8/24/2017 5:42 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:10:45 -0400, GRwNYP?? ?????? ? ??????? ??bJLRGs
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 9:38 PM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Don't be fooled by your CIA. A rocket engine is a lot simpler than your car's reciprocating piston engine. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg/1000px-V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg.png Building the pyramids was quite simple. Execution however...was very difficult. You are such a brainless turd. And obviously..a paid shill for Socialist/Communist backers. So..how much are the NK proletariat paying you? Or are you doing this simply out of patriotism to the Soviet? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:35:55 -0400, sTQjSE?? ?????? ? ??????? ??oPFbEi
wrote: Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM: If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. ROFLMAO!!! Look at the brainless dweeb trying to make it appear he knows something about rocketry. Pathetic...utterly pathetic. Btw..Martin has more engineering degrees and practice..then you have brain cells. that we the U.S.A. spent millions, hundreds of missiles and lives to get it right. Now North Korea has one ? And the physical packages and fuels from the Ukraine now ? This is getting out of hand. Martin On 8/24/2017 5:42 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
"sTQjSE? Mighty + Wannabe ?oPFbEi" wrote in
message ... Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM: If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. The Range Safety Officer sends a self-destruct command if the missile's guidance fails, to prevent it from causing damage wherever it might otherwise fall. So much for your delusion of "common sense". |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Jim Wilkins wrote:
"sTQjSE?? Mighty + Wannabe ??oPFbEi" wrote in message ... Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM: If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. The Range Safety Officer sends a self-destruct command if the missile's guidance fails, to prevent it from causing damage wherever it might otherwise fall. there are no range safety officers in china. see for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJ9ue6GKek |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Cydrome Leader wrote on 8/25/2017 9:21 AM:
Jim Wilkins wrote: "sTQjSE?? Mighty + Wannabe ??oPFbEi" wrote in message ... Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM: If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. The Range Safety Officer sends a self-destruct command if the missile's guidance fails, to prevent it from causing damage wherever it might otherwise fall. there are no range safety officers in china. see for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJ9ue6GKek When a rocket launch failed off the launch pad, it was the rocket propulsion engine that failed, not the 'guidance system'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6qJh9upqW8 |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:10 AM:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts The problem you have is your blind trust in your "US intelligence analysts". They are the same clowns who didn't know the 9/11 perpetrators were hatching their plan for 10 years right inside the US, and who said Saddam Hussein had WMD (which was proven didn't exist). They are famous for writing their reports by making **** up while on the loo. quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:36:09 -0400, FqFisA?? ?????? ? ??????? ??xGnjoQ
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:10 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts The problem you have is your blind trust in your "US intelligence analysts". I don't have a problem, but you do, trying to explain why N. Korea couldn't build a reliable mid-range rocket, and now, suddenly, they're building successful ICBMs. Explain that one with your paranoid fantasies. Ed Huntress They are the same clowns who didn't know the 9/11 perpetrators were hatching their plan for 10 years right inside the US, and who said Saddam Hussein had WMD (which was proven didn't exist). They are famous for writing their reports by making **** up while on the loo. quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:38:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: Look at the brainless dweeb trying to make it appear he knows something about rocketry. Hahahaha! Hey, Mark "aerospace" Wieber, since YOU'RE implying that you know something about rocketry, this is a good time to ask... did you figure out how to make your septic water drain into the ground yet? Seems like that should be the top item on your bucket list. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 09:53:12 -0700, Wasn't Born To Follow
wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:38:32 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: Look at the brainless dweeb trying to make it appear he knows something about rocketry. Hahahaha! Hey, Mark "aerospace" Wieber, since YOU'RE implying that you know something about rocketry, this is a good time to ask... did you figure out how to make your septic water drain into the ground yet? Seems like that should be the top item on your bucket list. I hope that pun was intentional. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 10:44:28 AM UTC-4, avlWst *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ
It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. Your ignorance is showing. You do not know your guidance from your flight controls. Dan |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote:
Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg This appears to be a Space Shuttle (STS) main engine, a VERY sophisticated piece of turbomachinery. I seriously doubt the North Koreans could make one of these work in less than a decade. It stretched the capabilites of the US to make them work, and were a continuing source of problems throughout the program. Jon |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:58:59 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg This appears to be a Space Shuttle (STS) main engine, a VERY sophisticated piece of turbomachinery. I seriously doubt the North Koreans could make one of these work in less than a decade. It stretched the capabilites of the US to make them work, and were a continuing source of problems throughout the program. Jon Wrong attribution, Jon. That was our Home Depot aerospace engineer. I'm doing my best to hold in the laughter. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
sTQjSE *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ oPFbEi wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM: If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. Well, if the guidance system fails catastrophically, it can lead to the missile breaking up from dynamic forces. If it fails less badly, the range safety officer will have to blow it up before it hits a populated area. Most tests have command destruct systems. No idea if they do that in DPRK, though. Jon |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:49 AM:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:36:09 -0400, FqFisA?? ?????? ? ??????? ??xGnjoQ wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:10 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts The problem you have is your blind trust in your "US intelligence analysts". I don't have a problem, but you do, trying to explain why N. Korea couldn't build a reliable mid-range rocket, and now, suddenly, they're building successful ICBMs. Explain that one with your paranoid fantasies. They switched from 'Bing' to 'Google' and found the right schematic'. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg/1000px-V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg.png A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket has no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation They are the same clowns who didn't know the 9/11 perpetrators were hatching their plan for 10 years right inside the US, and who said Saddam Hussein had WMD (which was proven didn't exist). They are famous for writing their reports by making **** up while on the loo. quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Jon Elson wrote on 8/25/2017 1:58 PM:
Ed Huntress wrote: Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg This appears to be a Space Shuttle (STS) main engine, a VERY sophisticated piece of turbomachinery. I seriously doubt the North Koreans could make one of these work in less than a decade. It stretched the capabilites of the US to make them work, and were a continuing source of problems throughout the program. Jon It is such a simple construction, please explain to me which part you or Kim Jong Un cannot make (if you have the money and tools). |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
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How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On 8/25/2017 3:28 PM, WbKKlu *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ YGUzRT wrote:
As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): * Ah , but you're wrong MidgetWannabe . Do a web search for "vectored thrust" and the light might dawn in your microbrain . For an example , Space Shuttle SRB's used a rubber/steel/rubber/steel/etc (I think it was called) vectored thrust bearing . That nozzle could move several degrees from straight in any direction . And those ****ers were a bitch to cut apart for refurb and re use . I spent a few years at Thiokol's Wasatch Division , first in the LMCP and later in a development lab . Got a commemorative* belt buckle cast in part from steel that was used in one of the motor cases used for the first shuttle flight - I was on the crew that cast the propellant into those big *******s . * -- * Snag |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 4:55:29 PM UTC-4, oyAzlH *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ JOWfmu wrote:
Your ignorance is showing. You do not know your guidance from your flight controls. Dan Semantics. Not really. On the Trident Missile General Electric makes guidance units. Lockheed makes flight controls. Dan |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Jon Elson wrote on 8/25/2017 2:01 PM:
sTQjSE *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ oPFbEi wrote: Martin Eastburn wrote on 8/24/2017 11:12 PM: If you remember, China was blowing up missiles off the launch pad until - The then President Clinton gave the Chinese the inertial guidance system Please explain how "inertial guidance system" can mitigate "blowing up missiles off the launch pad". Common sense dictates that the guidance system inside a missile has nothing to do with a missile blowing up off the launch pad. Well, if the guidance system fails catastrophically, it can lead to the missile breaking up from dynamic forces. If it fails less badly, the range safety officer will have to blow it up before it hits a populated area. Most tests have command destruct systems. No idea if they do that in DPRK, though. Jon As I have explained before, all the sensors required to control a rocket are inside a modern smartphone. Please let me repeat my post: It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket has no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
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How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:28:15 -0400, WbKKlu?? ?????? ? ??????? ??YGUzRT
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:49 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:36:09 -0400, FqFisA?? ?????? ? ??????? ??xGnjoQ wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:10 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts The problem you have is your blind trust in your "US intelligence analysts". I don't have a problem, but you do, trying to explain why N. Korea couldn't build a reliable mid-range rocket, and now, suddenly, they're building successful ICBMs. Explain that one with your paranoid fantasies. They switched from 'Bing' to 'Google' and found the right schematic'. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg/1000px-V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg.png A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket has no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation They are the same clowns who didn't know the 9/11 perpetrators were hatching their plan for 10 years right inside the US, and who said Saddam Hussein had WMD (which was proven didn't exist). They are famous for writing their reports by making **** up while on the loo. quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. Now I'm sure you're pulling our legs. No one is that stupid. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Terry Coombs wrote on 8/25/2017 5:02 PM:
On 8/25/2017 3:28 PM, WbKKlu *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ YGUzRT wrote: As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): Ah , but you're wrong MidgetWannabe . Do a web search for "vectored thrust" and the light might dawn in your microbrain . For an example , Space Shuttle SRB's used a rubber/steel/rubber/steel/etc (I think it was called) vectored thrust bearing . That nozzle could move several degrees from straight in any direction . And those ****ers were a bitch to cut apart for refurb and re use . I spent a few years at Thiokol's Wasatch Division , first in the LMCP and later in a development lab . Got a commemorative belt buckle cast in part from steel that was used in one of the motor cases used for the first shuttle flight - I was on the crew that cast the propellant into those big *******s . Of course there is 'vectored thrust', but rockets are 'single-use'. It is easier and simpler to use a computer program to control the power of the three individual nozzles to get the rocket to point to the direction you want it to go. Controlling the power is as easy as controlling the rate of flow of air-fuel mixture through a valve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:SSME1.jpg |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 5:12 PM:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:28:15 -0400, WbKKlu?? ?????? ? ??????? ??YGUzRT wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:49 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:36:09 -0400, FqFisA?? ?????? ? ??????? ??xGnjoQ wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:10 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts The problem you have is your blind trust in your "US intelligence analysts". I don't have a problem, but you do, trying to explain why N. Korea couldn't build a reliable mid-range rocket, and now, suddenly, they're building successful ICBMs. Explain that one with your paranoid fantasies. They switched from 'Bing' to 'Google' and found the right schematic'. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg/1000px-V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg.png A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket has no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation They are the same clowns who didn't know the 9/11 perpetrators were hatching their plan for 10 years right inside the US, and who said Saddam Hussein had WMD (which was proven didn't exist). They are famous for writing their reports by making **** up while on the loo. quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. Now I'm sure you're pulling our legs. No one is that stupid. North Korea's quantum leap in missile technology coincides with their foray into smartphone manufactu Kim Jong Un inspects North Koreas first smartphone, an Android clone https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/08/12/kim-jong-un-inspects-north-koreas-first-ever-smartphone-an-android-clone/?utm_term=.2e3364ec48ab |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:54:25 -0400, iwgPeo?? ?????? ? ??????? ??nqXXfn
wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 5:12 PM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:28:15 -0400, WbKKlu?? ?????? ? ??????? ??YGUzRT wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:49 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:36:09 -0400, FqFisA?? ?????? ? ??????? ??xGnjoQ wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 11:10 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:44:15 -0400, avlWst?? ?????? ? ??????? ??UXuJNF wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/25/2017 9:52 AM: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:25:01 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ed Huntress wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:44:42 -0400, EBsoZZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??TeRcSC wrote: Ed Huntress wrote on 8/24/2017 6:42 PM: If you're interested in this story, it may be in print somewhere, but it's also in this podcast that you can listen to online, with no add-on apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/p...s-ukraine.html Hint: They didn't do it themselves. It is very easy to make a rocket. The difficult part is the flight control unit that keeps the rocket flying straight and narrow instead of going in random directions after liftoff and crashing back to earth near the launchpad. A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket as no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation The story is about the engines. N. Korea couldn't get a mid-range rocket to fire reliably. All of a sudden, they're building ICBMs that work. The analysts recently realized why. The engines are Cold-War-Era Russian -- possibly made in the old Russian heavy-engine factory in the Ukraine. I think you mean mean russia, not ukraine. The factory is a holdover from the Sobiet days. It's in Ukraine. there is no ukraine, just russia. We must have different world maps. But they say they're not making engines for N. Korea. The CIA probably knows the answer to this, but it could be that Russian engineers or unemployed Ukranians are helping N.Korea to build them. The key point was in realizing what was new about their program. In roughly one year, they made progress that is widely thought to have been impossible, or nearly so. Launching a rocket into the ocean isn't really that impressive, unless you're trying to catch up with the 1960s. Launching one to an altitude of 2,300 miles is very impressive. Angle the trajectory down, and most US cities are in range. Did you follow the analyses of the launch data? The rocket experts say the last one is a game changer. North korea is a joke, but at least they'd put up a fight if the russians walked over and said "this is ours now." Security experts are focused on other issues regarding North Korea. Kim Jong-Un doesn't need to buy old rockets from Ukraine. Rocket engine schematic diagrams are readily available on the internet. RS-25 schematic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:Ssme_schematic_(updated).svg As I said before, you need at least three nozzles so that you can make the rocket go whatever direction you want it to go (by adjusting the power of each individual nozzle): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:020408_STS110_Atlantis_launch.jpg North Korea's Kim Jong-Un and his rocket scientists had the smarts to assemble their own rocket engine from Home Depot parts, and use the sensors in a smartphone for the guidance system. You seem to have a cartoonish view of engineering, a lot like the cartoon drawing you linked to above. The most fundamental problem with your "analysis" is that they DIDN'T have the smarts to build even reliable shorter-range rockets, until, quite suddenly, they had success with much larger and longer-range rockets. Intelligence services were scratching their heads. But Kim Jong Un's egotism led him to have photos of the new engines published, and US intelligence analysts The problem you have is your blind trust in your "US intelligence analysts". I don't have a problem, but you do, trying to explain why N. Korea couldn't build a reliable mid-range rocket, and now, suddenly, they're building successful ICBMs. Explain that one with your paranoid fantasies. They switched from 'Bing' to 'Google' and found the right schematic'. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg/1000px-V-2_rocket_diagram_%28with_English_labels%29.svg.png A modern smartphone has all the sensors required to let the rocket correct its course and guide itself to its destination. All you need to do is write an App and send the output to an interface to control the power of each of the three nozzles (a rocket has no wings or rudder, so a minimum of three nozzles would be needed to make the rocket go in any direction you want it to). North Korea makes smartphones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10238617/Kim-Jong-un-visits-North-Korean-smartphone-factory.html Download this Android App (Sensors Multitool) to read the sensors: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wered.sensorsmultitool&hl=en This "Sensors Multitool" App can read all the sensors in your Android smartphone (everything you need to guide a missile to its destination): GPS Rotation Vector Linear Acceleration Gravity Gyroscope Accelerometer Magnetic Pressure Orientation They are the same clowns who didn't know the 9/11 perpetrators were hatching their plan for 10 years right inside the US, and who said Saddam Hussein had WMD (which was proven didn't exist). They are famous for writing their reports by making **** up while on the loo. quickly realized they're now using Russian-designed engines from the Cold War era. Those engines were originally made in the Ukraine. You would know all of this if you listened to the podcast instead of speculating about cartoon drawings and Home Depot. Now I'm sure you're pulling our legs. No one is that stupid. North Korea's quantum leap in missile technology coincides with their foray into smartphone manufactu Kim Jong Un inspects North Koreas first smartphone, an Android clone https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/08/12/kim-jong-un-inspects-north-koreas-first-ever-smartphone-an-android-clone/?utm_term=.2e3364ec48ab It corresponds to their getting their hands on Russian rocket engines. -- Ed Huntress |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 5:49:32 PM UTC-4, jebAuD *ｉｇｈｔｙ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ t
Of course there is 'vectored thrust', but rockets are 'single-use'. It is easier and simpler to use a computer program to control the power of the three individual nozzles to get the rocket to point to the direction you want it to go. Controlling the power is as easy as controlling the rate of flow of air-fuel mixture through a valve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine#/media/File:SSME1.jpg Wrong again. It is a bunch more complicated to have three nozzles on each stage than to have one nozzle per stage. Can you tell me of a current production rocket that uses three or more nozzles per stage? Dan |
How N. Korea suddenly had ICBMs that work
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