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The Right Wing is 'Trawling for Assassins'!
On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:50:53 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 02:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Jeff Simon wrote: On 20 Jun 2017, Gunner Asch posted some : On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:43:52 +0200 (CEST), "Edwardian" wrote: In article Fred Wingo wieber.sucks@cocks wrote: On 6/18/2017 6:02 PM, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:16:28 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:08:47 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:57:53 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:15:03 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:23:44 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:17:08 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: Oh..a side note...given that there is NO "Bernard Larson s cannot be construed as any sort of "internet threat" ........ It certainly does go to show how warped your mind has become. At one time you were funny. A truly gifted teller of tall tales. That's morphed to just plain sick. In a snowflake world where children are expelled from school for liking a post that inclued a picture of a gun, it's amazing you are still running loose. You're talking as if you've accepted a snowflake world as your new normal. How did they finally win you over? Did they tell you that you were one of a kind? It IS becoming a fact of life for much of the population. You don't have to like it to see it happening. There is a big difference between seeing the vast extent of snowflake mentality and buying into it. I'll try to elaborate if you have trouble telling the two apart. Apparently you've bought into it if you think Gunner gives a **** about what a snowflake thinks about gun ownership. But you think it's amazing. Let me know if you have trouble telling the two apart. Ah, I see the problem. You need better reading comprehension. I'm surprised - given the snowflake society that exists called California - that the offical snowflakes out there DO go after a school kid for liking a post and ignore his repeated threats to kill, mame, and torture people. Why are they not both caught in the same net? It has nothing to do with how I think society should be ordered. My reading comprehension is just fine. No. It would appear from your recent posts you are sniping at Gunner for getting more attention in the group than you are. We all know you consider yourself to be Alpha poster in the newsgroup, Not even close. but lately all you seem to be doing is trying to hold a candle to Gunner. Wieber doesn't emit as much light as a young firefly. So much so, that you actually regard the snowflakes feelings as valid. I don't know what he has said about any supposed "snowflakes", but you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers have drained the word of almost all meaning. It basically just means people who oppose your benighted ****-4-braincell knuckle-dragger views...and that means all educated and thinking people. Lol! "all educated and thinking people." excludes liberals. ANYBODY with half a sack of dead brains can get the same kind of degree a lazy-assed liberal does. But of what use is a "liberal arts" degree, or maybe that impressive "african american studies" degree? "A liberal arts degree is the laughing stock of college degree programs for a reason: its not specialized enough to prepare you for a specific career." All it does is teach one how to run their mouth and say nothing meaningful. In other words, you're ****ing dumb because you're lazy like your parents. A Liberal Arts degree may...may get him a job that allows him to ask "would you like fries with that?" mulitple times a day. I personally know of two Pomona Pitzer grads with "artsy" degrees, who are working fast food jobs and living in their cars. Apparently liberal arts colleges and their "degrees" are not real world. There are MANY similar degrees. I always use "Elizabethan Poetry of the 18 Century" or some variation. That's because you're ignorant. You don't know anything about degrees offered or degree requirements. There is no such degree. Just how many teachers of this stuff do the students think manage to find a job each year? At best..maybe 50-500 can find a job....maybe. How would you know? Graduating 2500 of them with that degree..is simply ****ing money down the students leg. You're behind the times -- by about a half-century. Get yourself up to date: (from The Wall Street Journal) "Why I Was Wrong About Liberal-Arts Majors" "Looking back at the tech teams that Ive built at my companies, its evident that individuals with liberal arts degrees are by far the sharpest, bestÂ*-performing software developers and technology leaders. Often these modern techies have degrees in philosophy, history, and music..." https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2016/0...l-arts-majors/ As usual, you've filled your head with nonsense in order to make excuses for your own situation in life. -- Ed Huntress |
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The Right Wing is 'Trawling for Assassins'!
wrote in message ... On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:50:53 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 02:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Jeff Simon wrote: On 20 Jun 2017, Gunner Asch posted some : On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:43:52 +0200 (CEST), "Edwardian" wrote: In article Fred Wingo wieber.sucks@cocks wrote: On 6/18/2017 6:02 PM, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:16:28 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:08:47 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:57:53 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:15:03 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:23:44 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:17:08 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: Oh..a side note...given that there is NO "Bernard Larson s cannot be construed as any sort of "internet threat" ........ It certainly does go to show how warped your mind has become. At one time you were funny. A truly gifted teller of tall tales. That's morphed to just plain sick. In a snowflake world where children are expelled from school for liking a post that inclued a picture of a gun, it's amazing you are still running loose. You're talking as if you've accepted a snowflake world as your new normal. How did they finally win you over? Did they tell you that you were one of a kind? It IS becoming a fact of life for much of the population. You don't have to like it to see it happening. There is a big difference between seeing the vast extent of snowflake mentality and buying into it. I'll try to elaborate if you have trouble telling the two apart. Apparently you've bought into it if you think Gunner gives a **** about what a snowflake thinks about gun ownership. But you think it's amazing. Let me know if you have trouble telling the two apart. Ah, I see the problem. You need better reading comprehension. I'm surprised - given the snowflake society that exists called California - that the offical snowflakes out there DO go after a school kid for liking a post and ignore his repeated threats to kill, mame, and torture people. Why are they not both caught in the same net? It has nothing to do with how I think society should be ordered. My reading comprehension is just fine. No. It would appear from your recent posts you are sniping at Gunner for getting more attention in the group than you are. We all know you consider yourself to be Alpha poster in the newsgroup, Not even close. but lately all you seem to be doing is trying to hold a candle to Gunner. Wieber doesn't emit as much light as a young firefly. So much so, that you actually regard the snowflakes feelings as valid. I don't know what he has said about any supposed "snowflakes", but you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers have drained the word of almost all meaning. It basically just means people who oppose your benighted ****-4-braincell knuckle-dragger views...and that means all educated and thinking people. Lol! "all educated and thinking people." excludes liberals. ANYBODY with half a sack of dead brains can get the same kind of degree a lazy-assed liberal does. But of what use is a "liberal arts" degree, or maybe that impressive "african american studies" degree? "A liberal arts degree is the laughing stock of college degree programs for a reason: it's not specialized enough to prepare you for a specific career." All it does is teach one how to run their mouth and say nothing meaningful. In other words, you're ****ing dumb because you're lazy like your parents. A Liberal Arts degree may...may get him a job that allows him to ask "would you like fries with that?" mulitple times a day. I personally know of two Pomona Pitzer grads with "artsy" degrees, who are working fast food jobs and living in their cars. Apparently liberal arts colleges and their "degrees" are not real world. There are MANY similar degrees. I always use "Elizabethan Poetry of the 18 Century" or some variation. That's because you're ignorant. You don't know anything about degrees offered or degree requirements. There is no such degree. Just how many teachers of this stuff do the students think manage to find a job each year? At best..maybe 50-500 can find a job....maybe. How would you know? Graduating 2500 of them with that degree..is simply ****ing money down the students leg. You're behind the times -- by about a half-century. Get yourself up to date: (from The Wall Street Journal) "Why I Was Wrong About Liberal-Arts Majors" "Looking back at the tech teams that I've built at my companies, it's evident that individuals with liberal arts degrees are by far the sharpest, best*-performing software developers and technology leaders. Often these modern techies have degrees in philosophy, history, and music..." https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2016/0...l-arts-majors/ As usual, you've filled your head with nonsense in order to make excuses for your own situation in life. -- Ed Huntress I knew two Lit majors from my younger days. One retired from the Navy as a Lt Cmdr, the other is a VP at J P Morgan Chase. Apparently, being able to communicate in complete sentences is a skill that is appreciated by many employers. Paul K. Dickman |
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The Right Wing is 'Trawling for Assassins'!
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:24:47 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:50:53 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 02:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Jeff Simon wrote: On 20 Jun 2017, Gunner Asch posted some : On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:43:52 +0200 (CEST), "Edwardian" wrote: In article Fred Wingo wieber.sucks@cocks wrote: On 6/18/2017 6:02 PM, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:16:28 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:08:47 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:57:53 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:15:03 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:23:44 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:17:08 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: Oh..a side note...given that there is NO "Bernard Larson s cannot be construed as any sort of "internet threat" ........ It certainly does go to show how warped your mind has become. At one time you were funny. A truly gifted teller of tall tales. That's morphed to just plain sick. In a snowflake world where children are expelled from school for liking a post that inclued a picture of a gun, it's amazing you are still running loose. You're talking as if you've accepted a snowflake world as your new normal. How did they finally win you over? Did they tell you that you were one of a kind? It IS becoming a fact of life for much of the population. You don't have to like it to see it happening. There is a big difference between seeing the vast extent of snowflake mentality and buying into it. I'll try to elaborate if you have trouble telling the two apart. Apparently you've bought into it if you think Gunner gives a **** about what a snowflake thinks about gun ownership. But you think it's amazing. Let me know if you have trouble telling the two apart. Ah, I see the problem. You need better reading comprehension. I'm surprised - given the snowflake society that exists called California - that the offical snowflakes out there DO go after a school kid for liking a post and ignore his repeated threats to kill, mame, and torture people. Why are they not both caught in the same net? It has nothing to do with how I think society should be ordered. My reading comprehension is just fine. No. It would appear from your recent posts you are sniping at Gunner for getting more attention in the group than you are. We all know you consider yourself to be Alpha poster in the newsgroup, Not even close. but lately all you seem to be doing is trying to hold a candle to Gunner. Wieber doesn't emit as much light as a young firefly. So much so, that you actually regard the snowflakes feelings as valid. I don't know what he has said about any supposed "snowflakes", but you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers have drained the word of almost all meaning. It basically just means people who oppose your benighted ****-4-braincell knuckle-dragger views...and that means all educated and thinking people. Lol! "all educated and thinking people." excludes liberals. ANYBODY with half a sack of dead brains can get the same kind of degree a lazy-assed liberal does. But of what use is a "liberal arts" degree, or maybe that impressive "african american studies" degree? "A liberal arts degree is the laughing stock of college degree programs for a reason: it's not specialized enough to prepare you for a specific career." All it does is teach one how to run their mouth and say nothing meaningful. In other words, you're ****ing dumb because you're lazy like your parents. A Liberal Arts degree may...may get him a job that allows him to ask "would you like fries with that?" mulitple times a day. I personally know of two Pomona Pitzer grads with "artsy" degrees, who are working fast food jobs and living in their cars. Apparently liberal arts colleges and their "degrees" are not real world. There are MANY similar degrees. I always use "Elizabethan Poetry of the 18 Century" or some variation. That's because you're ignorant. You don't know anything about degrees offered or degree requirements. There is no such degree. Just how many teachers of this stuff do the students think manage to find a job each year? At best..maybe 50-500 can find a job....maybe. How would you know? Graduating 2500 of them with that degree..is simply ****ing money down the students leg. You're behind the times -- by about a half-century. Get yourself up to date: (from The Wall Street Journal) "Why I Was Wrong About Liberal-Arts Majors" "Looking back at the tech teams that I've built at my companies, it's evident that individuals with liberal arts degrees are by far the sharpest, best*-performing software developers and technology leaders. Often these modern techies have degrees in philosophy, history, and music..." https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2016/0...l-arts-majors/ As usual, you've filled your head with nonsense in order to make excuses for your own situation in life.-- Ed Huntress I knew two Lit majors from my younger days. One retired from the Navy as a Lt Cmdr, the other is a VP at J P Morgan Chase. Apparently, being able to communicate in complete sentences is a skill that is appreciated by many employers. Paul K. Dickman Yes, and it's what got me off the ground with what was then the world's fourth-largest publishing company. However, I hesitate to overgeneralize about it. The "critical thinking" issue is another thing that keeps coming up when employers talk about why they hire liberal arts majors. I can see that, but it varies a great deal among individuals. I'm learning a lot by watching my son's progress. He works for a hedge fund now, and there is a very formalized "quality of thinking" competition built into the company's culture. It's both analytical and creative thinking that they evaluate. They pay obscene salaries and are staffed with young people of superior ability. They're subject to daily critique by their peers and their managers. Their degrees vary by department, but most of the top performers are liberal arts graduates. -- Ed Huntress |
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The Right Wing is 'Trawling for Assassins'!
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:24:47 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:50:53 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 02:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Jeff Simon wrote: On 20 Jun 2017, Gunner Asch posted some : On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:43:52 +0200 (CEST), "Edwardian" wrote: In article Fred Wingo wieber.sucks@cocks wrote: On 6/18/2017 6:02 PM, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:16:28 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:08:47 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:57:53 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:15:03 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:23:44 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:17:08 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: Oh..a side note...given that there is NO "Bernard Larson s cannot be construed as any sort of "internet threat" ........ It certainly does go to show how warped your mind has become. At one time you were funny. A truly gifted teller of tall tales. That's morphed to just plain sick. In a snowflake world where children are expelled from school for liking a post that inclued a picture of a gun, it's amazing you are still running loose. You're talking as if you've accepted a snowflake world as your new normal. How did they finally win you over? Did they tell you that you were one of a kind? It IS becoming a fact of life for much of the population. You don't have to like it to see it happening. There is a big difference between seeing the vast extent of snowflake mentality and buying into it. I'll try to elaborate if you have trouble telling the two apart. Apparently you've bought into it if you think Gunner gives a **** about what a snowflake thinks about gun ownership. But you think it's amazing. Let me know if you have trouble telling the two apart. Ah, I see the problem. You need better reading comprehension. I'm surprised - given the snowflake society that exists called California - that the offical snowflakes out there DO go after a school kid for liking a post and ignore his repeated threats to kill, mame, and torture people. Why are they not both caught in the same net? It has nothing to do with how I think society should be ordered. My reading comprehension is just fine. No. It would appear from your recent posts you are sniping at Gunner for getting more attention in the group than you are. We all know you consider yourself to be Alpha poster in the newsgroup, Not even close. but lately all you seem to be doing is trying to hold a candle to Gunner. Wieber doesn't emit as much light as a young firefly. So much so, that you actually regard the snowflakes feelings as valid. I don't know what he has said about any supposed "snowflakes", but you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers have drained the word of almost all meaning. It basically just means people who oppose your benighted ****-4-braincell knuckle-dragger views...and that means all educated and thinking people. Lol! "all educated and thinking people." excludes liberals. ANYBODY with half a sack of dead brains can get the same kind of degree a lazy-assed liberal does. But of what use is a "liberal arts" degree, or maybe that impressive "african american studies" degree? "A liberal arts degree is the laughing stock of college degree programs for a reason: it's not specialized enough to prepare you for a specific career." All it does is teach one how to run their mouth and say nothing meaningful. In other words, you're ****ing dumb because you're lazy like your parents. A Liberal Arts degree may...may get him a job that allows him to ask "would you like fries with that?" mulitple times a day. I personally know of two Pomona Pitzer grads with "artsy" degrees, who are working fast food jobs and living in their cars. Apparently liberal arts colleges and their "degrees" are not real world. There are MANY similar degrees. I always use "Elizabethan Poetry of the 18 Century" or some variation. That's because you're ignorant. You don't know anything about degrees offered or degree requirements. There is no such degree. Just how many teachers of this stuff do the students think manage to find a job each year? At best..maybe 50-500 can find a job....maybe. How would you know? Graduating 2500 of them with that degree..is simply ****ing money down the students leg. You're behind the times -- by about a half-century. Get yourself up to date: (from The Wall Street Journal) "Why I Was Wrong About Liberal-Arts Majors" "Looking back at the tech teams that I've built at my companies, it's evident that individuals with liberal arts degrees are by far the sharpest, best*-performing software developers and technology leaders. Often these modern techies have degrees in philosophy, history, and music..." https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2016/0...l-arts-majors/ As usual, you've filled your head with nonsense in order to make excuses for your own situation in life.-- Ed Huntress I knew two Lit majors from my younger days. One retired from the Navy as a Lt Cmdr, the other is a VP at J P Morgan Chase. Apparently, being able to communicate in complete sentences is a skill that is appreciated by many employers. Paul K. Dickman Yes, and it's what got me off the ground with what was then the world's fourth-largest publishing company. However, I hesitate to overgeneralize about it. The "critical thinking" issue is another thing that keeps coming up when employers talk about why they hire liberal arts majors. I can see that, but it varies a great deal among individuals. I'm learning a lot by watching my son's progress. He works for a hedge fund now, and there is a very formalized "quality of thinking" competition built into the company's culture. It's both analytical and creative thinking that they evaluate. They pay obscene salaries and are staffed with young people of superior ability. They're subject to daily critique by their peers and their managers. Their degrees vary by department, but most of the top performers are liberal arts graduates. -- Ed Huntress On the tech side the aptitude and perseverance that a degree implies sometimes mattered more than the subject. I worked with an electronic designer with a degree in astronomy. One of the department heads at Mitre had a BS in Chemistry and a Ph.D in Electrical Engineering. My mother worked in a library where -any- degree including Music or Theatre was essential to be promoted to management. -jsw |
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The Right Wing is 'Trawling for Assassins'!
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:59:30 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:24:47 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:50:53 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 02:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Jeff Simon wrote: On 20 Jun 2017, Gunner Asch posted some : On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:43:52 +0200 (CEST), "Edwardian" wrote: In article Fred Wingo wieber.sucks@cocks wrote: On 6/18/2017 6:02 PM, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:16:28 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:08:47 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:57:53 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 16:15:03 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 11:23:44 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:17:08 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: Oh..a side note...given that there is NO "Bernard Larson s cannot be construed as any sort of "internet threat" ........ It certainly does go to show how warped your mind has become. At one time you were funny. A truly gifted teller of tall tales. That's morphed to just plain sick. In a snowflake world where children are expelled from school for liking a post that inclued a picture of a gun, it's amazing you are still running loose. You're talking as if you've accepted a snowflake world as your new normal. How did they finally win you over? Did they tell you that you were one of a kind? It IS becoming a fact of life for much of the population. You don't have to like it to see it happening. There is a big difference between seeing the vast extent of snowflake mentality and buying into it. I'll try to elaborate if you have trouble telling the two apart. Apparently you've bought into it if you think Gunner gives a **** about what a snowflake thinks about gun ownership. But you think it's amazing. Let me know if you have trouble telling the two apart. Ah, I see the problem. You need better reading comprehension. I'm surprised - given the snowflake society that exists called California - that the offical snowflakes out there DO go after a school kid for liking a post and ignore his repeated threats to kill, mame, and torture people. Why are they not both caught in the same net? It has nothing to do with how I think society should be ordered. My reading comprehension is just fine. No. It would appear from your recent posts you are sniping at Gunner for getting more attention in the group than you are. We all know you consider yourself to be Alpha poster in the newsgroup, Not even close. but lately all you seem to be doing is trying to hold a candle to Gunner. Wieber doesn't emit as much light as a young firefly. So much so, that you actually regard the snowflakes feelings as valid. I don't know what he has said about any supposed "snowflakes", but you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers have drained the word of almost all meaning. It basically just means people who oppose your benighted ****-4-braincell knuckle-dragger views...and that means all educated and thinking people. Lol! "all educated and thinking people." excludes liberals. ANYBODY with half a sack of dead brains can get the same kind of degree a lazy-assed liberal does. But of what use is a "liberal arts" degree, or maybe that impressive "african american studies" degree? "A liberal arts degree is the laughing stock of college degree programs for a reason: it's not specialized enough to prepare you for a specific career." All it does is teach one how to run their mouth and say nothing meaningful. In other words, you're ****ing dumb because you're lazy like your parents. A Liberal Arts degree may...may get him a job that allows him to ask "would you like fries with that?" mulitple times a day. I personally know of two Pomona Pitzer grads with "artsy" degrees, who are working fast food jobs and living in their cars. Apparently liberal arts colleges and their "degrees" are not real world. There are MANY similar degrees. I always use "Elizabethan Poetry of the 18 Century" or some variation. That's because you're ignorant. You don't know anything about degrees offered or degree requirements. There is no such degree. Just how many teachers of this stuff do the students think manage to find a job each year? At best..maybe 50-500 can find a job....maybe. How would you know? Graduating 2500 of them with that degree..is simply ****ing money down the students leg. You're behind the times -- by about a half-century. Get yourself up to date: (from The Wall Street Journal) "Why I Was Wrong About Liberal-Arts Majors" "Looking back at the tech teams that I've built at my companies, it's evident that individuals with liberal arts degrees are by far the sharpest, best*-performing software developers and technology leaders. Often these modern techies have degrees in philosophy, history, and music..." https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2016/0...l-arts-majors/ As usual, you've filled your head with nonsense in order to make excuses for your own situation in life.-- Ed Huntress I knew two Lit majors from my younger days. One retired from the Navy as a Lt Cmdr, the other is a VP at J P Morgan Chase. Apparently, being able to communicate in complete sentences is a skill that is appreciated by many employers. Paul K. Dickman Yes, and it's what got me off the ground with what was then the world's fourth-largest publishing company. However, I hesitate to overgeneralize about it. The "critical thinking" issue is another thing that keeps coming up when employers talk about why they hire liberal arts majors. I can see that, but it varies a great deal among individuals. I'm learning a lot by watching my son's progress. He works for a hedge fund now, and there is a very formalized "quality of thinking" competition built into the company's culture. It's both analytical and creative thinking that they evaluate. They pay obscene salaries and are staffed with young people of superior ability. They're subject to daily critique by their peers and their managers. Their degrees vary by department, but most of the top performers are liberal arts graduates. -- Ed Huntress On the tech side the aptitude and perseverance that a degree implies sometimes mattered more than the subject. I worked with an electronic designer with a degree in astronomy. One of the department heads at Mitre had a BS in Chemistry and a Ph.D in Electrical Engineering. My mother worked in a library where -any- degree including Music or Theatre was essential to be promoted to management. -jsw That's the gist of those articles I linked to a few days ago, and I think it's more common than many realize. I also have changed my mind in recent years about the value of going to a top college, particularly in non-technical areas. My son attended top-notch ones (Washington and Lee and Georgetown for his graduate degree), and I was impressed with his critical thinking skills after the experience. -- Ed Huntress |
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