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On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:57:24 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote: On 8/29/2015 12:45 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: Ammo mfgrs in the USA alone are making 4.2 billion rounds a year. CCI makes 4 million rounds per day. Where the hell are they all going, ferchrissake? Preppers couldn't buy up that many every day for years on end, as it has been going, especially at 3-5x the normal price. This is just nuts. And you wouldn't think that .22LR is the first choice for prepers. Now that AR mfgrs are making .22 barrels to make plinking cheaper on the AR platform, rich fuppies are stocking up, ah guess. Wideners has what seems to be good prices...if you are unlucky enough to have to buy ammo. It's the assholes thinking they can trade individual .22 boolies for diamonds right after the Fall, methinks. Even I am thinking pellet gun, I wonder if I can cast my own pellets before they start selling for $0.10 ea.??? (Wait 'til they tax air!) It's coming! -- The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work until it's opened. --Frank Zappa |
Is this idea crazy?
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:16:22 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:42:31 -0400, "Robert" wrote: wrote in message ... So, am I nut to consider this? Maybe? but there is a easier way. Just reload the 22lr yourself. http://22lrreloader.com/ Robert I looked at that device. Maybe if I was a prepper. But scraping the white stuff off of strike anywhere matches to make priming compound is a pretty lame way to re-load .22s. Besides, if this method becomes popular then strike anywhere matches will probably cost 20 bucks a box. Eric Eric , you didn't look at the link . They have priming compound ... and I considered buying some for the making of percussion caps for my muzzle loader . But I think I'll try the toy caps I bought first . The compound is only 20 bucks for enough for 1,000 (2,000 ?) rimfire cartridges , probably yield about the same for caps . Greetings Terry, Sorry for the late reply. Router problems. I did look at the link, I watched the video abouit using matchheads, and decided it was all too much trouble. But I looked again after reading your message and did find the priming compound. It is only mentioned by clicking on the buy/checkout link. But I am really interested now. Thanks for pointing out to me the availability of the priming compound. Eric |
Is this idea crazy?
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So, am I nut to consider this? Thanks, Eric You probably will get a flood of responses, so I'll pipe up once and then retreat. g 1) John Browning designed the .25 ACP around the smallest-diameter cartridge (base diameter .278 in.) that he felt would be safe with a small-pistol primer. The cartridge is semi-rimmed; tricky but not impossible to extract with a simple extractor. 2) Performance is similar to a .22 LR; slightly better in very short barrels, slightly less in longer barrels. 3) Machined brass is not as strong as formed brass, so you need thicker walls if you machine it. 'Better to use existing commercial brass. 4) If you get fancy and decide to neck it down to .22, watch out. You'd be getting into some tricky engineering territory, where pressures build up in a hurry, depending on what powder you use. 5) Black powder is a mess in small calibers. My friend built a .28 cal. muzzleloader years ago, when Douglas still made the barrels, and had to swab the bore after every shot, because of bore fouling. The experts here can give you better suggestions but more likely you'd want to use a pinch of Red Dot or something similar and more modern (I use Red Dot in my light loads). 6) With very light loads, the brass can go on and on for a very long time. However, if you go *really* light, you're going to have big variations in velocity, and can even wind up with bullets that lodge in the barrel. Don't go too light. Back around 1990 I designed a wildcat based on the .32 S&W long, necked down to .20 cal. That's when I learned about pressures and thin pistol brass. I made a cherry for it on my lathe but I never finished the gun, which was to be built on a replica Farquharson falling-block action that I still have. When I learned about how much potential trouble I was buying myself I backed out. Unless you want a new, very involved hobby, stay away from designing wildcats. .22 rimfire can't be that hard to get. Some cartridge makers stopped making longs years ago because they're unbalanced and generally give poor accuracy. If you want quiet, buy some classy .22 LR match ammo. You can watch the bullet go downrange and you may have to look to see if the gun fired. g But it will drive tacks in a good target gun. Greetings ED, Sorry about the long time for the reply. I have been having internet problems and the problem was finally solved about 15 minutes ago. Anyway, with the light loads I want to shoot I am not worried about a rifle that can handle .22 long rifles rounds having problems if a case I made fails. But maybe there are things I don't know about that could make the lightly loaded rounds dangerous. So if anyone knows why my proposed round might be dangerous in either a rifle or a revolver please let me know. I'm also curious about black powder being so messy. At the time my rolling block rifle was made I have been told by many shooters that .22 rounds were filled with black powder. In fact, a friend of mine has a .22 Stevens tip up pistol and he was warned by his local gunsmith/dealer to shoot only .22 subsonic or CB rounds because the pistol was made for black powder filled rounds. Surely these guns and rifles didn't cleaning after every shot, did they? Cheers, Eric |
Is this idea crazy?
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:14:03 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:07:30 PM UTC-4, wrote: So, am I nut to consider this? Thanks, Eric I think you are nuts to consider this. Have you considered buying a pellet rifle? It would have most of the featues you want. Low cost, low noise, and ammo available. Prices are coming down on .22 ammo, but I do not see any CB caps. Dan I like shooting with CB shorts. I don't really care for air rifles. If it was a survival thing after everything goes to hell an air rifle would be a good choice. We have lots of squirrels and rabbits around here. But if everything goes to hell I'll probably not have any game af any sort to shoot at because everybody else will be trying to shoot the same game. Eric |
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