OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original source
of my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what this is ...
--
Snag
Followup - others have shown up , including some in my blocked senders
list ...

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
...
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and
posts Larry J has made , both with the following
appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin:
(1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the
headers of the original source of my newsgroup
server or email client - and I'm wondering what
this is ...
--
Snag
Followup - others have shown up , including
some in my blocked senders list ...


Same thing happened here this morning. A whole
bunch of
posts showed up again all with the same time stamp
09dec14 11:30 a.m. et .

On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 15:57:17 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:


"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
...
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and
posts Larry J has made , both with the following
appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin:
(1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the
headers of the original source of my newsgroup
server or email client - and I'm wondering what
this is ...
--
Snag
Followup - others have shown up , including
some in my blocked senders list ...


Same thing happened here this morning. A whole
bunch of
posts showed up again all with the same time stamp
09dec14 11:30 a.m. et .

Same here. I haven't seen this for years, but it used to happen every
once in a while, maybe eight or ten years ago.

--
Ed Huntress

Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original source of
my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what this is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting them.

Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader :-?

--
John G Sydney.

John G wrote:

Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original source of
my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what this is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting them.

Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader :-?


A misconfigured server, out there somewhere.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/9/2014 7:25 PM, John G wrote:
Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made
, both with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original
source of my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what
this is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting them.

Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader :-?

news groups are feed by two main server farms. One East and One West
coasts of the US. There might be a move afoot to cut back to a single
server farm......

Another thing, there is a file on your disk and mine that is composed of
the index numbers of each news groups. Dates don't matter. The file
index number it has determines if it is 'new' or old. When you
disable a usnet group, your record is purged. Folder is purged. When
you say rats, wrong one - and start it back up - you haven't read all of
them... e.g. want to read old ones - and a server has them in archive ?
that is the way - but have your reader allow to read 60,000 or so not
the last 200. Then you will see T-Nut and the rest in real time.
Update and 'read' all of those and you won't see them again.

That is how it works - so if a server you use gets messages that have
different numbers than your file is control on - you get old or fewer new.

You can also hack your own file - I used to do that and do the same.

Martin

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in
:


John G wrote:

Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has
made , both
with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original
source of
my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what this
is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting
them.

Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader
:-?


A misconfigured server, out there somewhere.





% Xnews scoring rule to hide "SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet
Gateway" spew
Sco: -9999
From: \-cdt\-.*


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On 12/9/2014 4:26 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:02:11 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

USENET obviously burped. I just picked up about 30 retreads.



OK Larry, just how did you break usenet this time?

On 12/9/2014 9:52 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


A misconfigured server, out there somewhere.




No, Larry broke it!

Martin Eastburn wrote:
On 12/9/2014 7:25 PM, John G wrote:
Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has
made , both with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original
source of my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering
what this is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting
them. Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader
:-?
news groups are feed by two main server farms. One East and One West
coasts of the US. There might be a move afoot to cut back to a single
server farm......

Another thing, there is a file on your disk and mine that is composed
of the index numbers of each news groups. Dates don't matter. The
file index number it has determines if it is 'new' or old. When you
disable a usnet group, your record is purged. Folder is purged. When
you say rats, wrong one - and start it back up - you haven't read all
of them... e.g. want to read old ones - and a server has them in
archive ? that is the way - but have your reader allow to read 60,000
or so not the last 200. Then you will see T-Nut and the rest in real
time.
Update and 'read' all of those and you won't see them again.

That is how it works - so if a server you use gets messages that have
different numbers than your file is control on - you get old or fewer
new.
You can also hack your own file - I used to do that and do the same.

Martin

Why though is this the only group that has exhibited this ? I read like 10
other groups , not a single one has burped ... just here . Almost makes ya
wonder if there is some nefarious scheme ... if you're paranoid .
I'm not - very .

--
Snag

On 12/10/2014 8:06 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:47:55 -0500, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 12/9/2014 4:26 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:02:11 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

USENET obviously burped. I just picked up about 30 retreads.


OK Larry, just how did you break usenet this time?

Who, li'l old ME? I waved my special wand and...

--

Every time you wave your magic wand people report you for indecent exposure.

Tom Gardner wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

OK Larry, just how did you break usenet this time?

Who, li'l old ME? I waved my special wand and...

Every time you wave your magic wand people report you for indecent exposure.


But only after they stop laughing and pointing.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 2014-12-10, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John G wrote:

Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original source of
my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what this is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting them.

Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader :-?


A misconfigured server, out there somewhere.

Perhaps a news server which was restored from backups after a
serious crash. This loads the news spool with a bunch of stale news,
which just gets shipped out as though it is new -- and the receiving
systems check whether there is something already present in the
receiving news spool with the same "Message-ID: ". If not, it is
treated as new. And if the backup is old enough, none of the
"Message-IDs: " will still be present, so they are accepted as new.

Back in the old days, when some of the BBS systems were being
attached to usenet, they would echo all the messages back to usenet
re-marked as though they originated at the BBS.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Remove oil spill source from e-mail
Email: | (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2014-12-10, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John G wrote:

Terry Coombs presented the following explanation :
OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J has made , both
with the following appended :

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: (1:249/999)
--- Synchronet 3.15b-Win32 NewsLink 1.92
SpaceSST BBS Usenet Fidonet Gateway

There is no attribution whatsoever in the headers of the original source of
my newsgroup server or email client - and I'm wondering what this is ...

Lots of people are getting them. Most likely everyone is getting them.

Agent, Thunderbird, MES News etc so not related to your news reader :-?


A misconfigured server, out there somewhere.

Perhaps a news server which was restored from backups after a
serious crash. This loads the news spool with a bunch of stale news,
which just gets shipped out as though it is new -- and the receiving
systems check whether there is something already present in the
receiving news spool with the same "Message-ID: ". If not, it is
treated as new. And if the backup is old enough, none of the
"Message-IDs: " will still be present, so they are accepted as new.

Back in the old days, when some of the BBS systems were being
attached to usenet, they would echo all the messages back to usenet
re-marked as though they originated at the BBS.


Luckily, the servers Earthlink contracts with have a 13 year
retention. That eliminates a lot of that kind of trash.



--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/10/2014 07:39 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:

Why though is this the only group that has exhibited this ? I read like 10
other groups , not a single one has burped ... just here . Almost makes ya
wonder if there is some nefarious scheme ... if you're paranoid .
I'm not - very .


It ain't, I got lots of dupes in a.o.l.u.
so I agree with a "restore from backup"

I just killed the thread and got to the new posts.




technomaNge
--
1 if by LAN
2 if by C++

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:45:19 -0500, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 12/10/2014 8:06 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:47:55 -0500, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 12/9/2014 4:26 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:02:11 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

OK , I'm seeing re-posts of posts I made and posts Larry J
has made , both with the following appended :

USENET obviously burped. I just picked up about 30 retreads.


OK Larry, just how did you break usenet this time?

Who, li'l old ME? I waved my special wand and...

--

Every time you wave your magic wand people report you for indecent
exposure.

That's the long and the short of it, yeah.

Actually just the short ...
d-n-r
--
Snag

On 12/10/2014 4:57 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Every time you wave your magic wand people report you for indecent exposure.


But only after they stop laughing and pointing.




Only the nuns!

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:02:29 -0500, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 12/10/2014 4:57 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Every time you wave your magic wand people report you for indecent exposure.


But only after they stop laughing and pointing.

Only the nuns!

Which reminds me...

A priest, a rabbi, and a minister are walking down the street talking
when the discussion turns to food. "My favorite meat is beef." the
minister says. "Mine is chicken." states the rabbi. The priest smiles
and says "Nun."

--
H.L. Mencken wrote in the American Mercury, April 1924, that the aim
of public education is not to fill the young of the species with
knowledge and awaken their intelligence. Nothing could be further
from the truth. The aim is simply to reduce as many individuals as
possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized
citizenry to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the
U.S. and that is its aim everywhere else.

LJ sez: Thankfully, the teachers back then didn't allow that to happen.

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 12/10/2014 4:57 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Every time you wave your magic wand people report you for indecent exposure.


But only after they stop laughing and pointing.



Only the nuns!


He was such a rotten brat that the nuns used lead pipes to beat him!
It was too tiring for them to use rulers. ;-)


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.