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clockworks - plans, sources??
Greetings and Salutations
The problem with not having money, is that you see things, and instead of buying them, you go home and try to figure out how to make one. In this case, it was a lamp with a music box. The whole thing looked like a 'cabin' with a waterwheel, with a lamp socket at the top of the chimney. "cute". But, and this is the clever thing, there were two doors - one served as the switch for the lamp, the other for the music box, which also powered the water wheel. Slick. And cute. So I went home and researched music boxes a bit. They run from $8 to $500, depending on quality, tunes and the like. So I started sketching, counterweights, and pendulums and drums and electro mechanical switches to start and stop an electric motor for winding things up. Great fun. Realized "okay, this is called a 'clock work' for a reason. Somebody must have plans." So that is the question - sources for plans for a "clock work" - one that will run off of either a pendulum, or a wound spring. And then, the sketchbook took over. (it is haunted I think). And I wound up with a clock tower - clock at the top, waterwheel at the base, and windows going up and around the tower - each one with a miniature light bulb, sequenced to make it appear that someone is climbing the tower, doing something in the upper room, then going back down the stairs ... and then "when I look through the window I can see ...." and now I'm trying to figure out what motions are involved in making an autotom gesture, write, wave out the window, conjure up magic ... What started out as something the size of a small footprint desktop computer is rapidly turning into the size of the desktop itself. Or maybe taking over the desk! Run! Run! It's alive! Anyway, if anyone can post some pointers to clockwork plans, I'd appreciate them. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
... Greetings and Salutations The problem with not having money, is that you see things, and instead of buying them, you go home and try to figure out how to make one. In this case, it was a lamp with a music box. The whole thing looked like a 'cabin' with a waterwheel, with a lamp socket at the top of the chimney. "cute". But, and this is the clever thing, there were two doors - one served as the switch for the lamp, the other for the music box, which also powered the water wheel. Slick. And cute. So I went home and researched music boxes a bit. They run from $8 to $500, depending on quality, tunes and the like. So I started sketching, counterweights, and pendulums and drums and electro mechanical switches to start and stop an electric motor for winding things up. Great fun. Realized "okay, this is called a 'clock work' for a reason. Somebody must have plans." So that is the question - sources for plans for a "clock work" - one that will run off of either a pendulum, or a wound spring. And then, the sketchbook took over. (it is haunted I think). And I wound up with a clock tower - clock at the top, waterwheel at the base, and windows going up and around the tower - each one with a miniature light bulb, sequenced to make it appear that someone is climbing the tower, doing something in the upper room, then going back down the stairs ... and then "when I look through the window I can see ..." and now I'm trying to figure out what motions are involved in making an autotom gesture, write, wave out the window, conjure up magic ... What started out as something the size of a small footprint desktop computer is rapidly turning into the size of the desktop itself. Or maybe taking over the desk! Run! Run! It's alive! Anyway, if anyone can post some pointers to clockwork plans, I'd appreciate them. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. I'm amazed at what the ancients could do with only simple hand tools like Jesus used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automaton |
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"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:39:10
-0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message .. . Greetings and Salutations The problem with not having money, is that you see things, and instead of buying them, you go home and try to figure out how to make one. In this case, it was a lamp with a music box. The whole thing looked like a 'cabin' with a waterwheel, with a lamp socket at the top of the chimney. "cute". But, and this is the clever thing, there were two doors - one served as the switch for the lamp, the other for the music box, which also powered the water wheel. Slick. And cute. So I went home and researched music boxes a bit. They run from $8 to $500, depending on quality, tunes and the like. So I started sketching, counterweights, and pendulums and drums and electro mechanical switches to start and stop an electric motor for winding things up. Great fun. Realized "okay, this is called a 'clock work' for a reason. Somebody must have plans." So that is the question - sources for plans for a "clock work" - one that will run off of either a pendulum, or a wound spring. And then, the sketchbook took over. (it is haunted I think). And I wound up with a clock tower - clock at the top, waterwheel at the base, and windows going up and around the tower - each one with a miniature light bulb, sequenced to make it appear that someone is climbing the tower, doing something in the upper room, then going back down the stairs ... and then "when I look through the window I can see ..." and now I'm trying to figure out what motions are involved in making an autotom gesture, write, wave out the window, conjure up magic ... What started out as something the size of a small footprint desktop computer is rapidly turning into the size of the desktop itself. Or maybe taking over the desk! Run! Run! It's alive! Anyway, if anyone can post some pointers to clockwork plans, I'd appreciate them. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. I'm amazed at what the ancients could do with only simple hand tools like Jesus used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automaton Thanks, The "difficulty" is in getting the thing planned. Reducing the complexity of a "simple" gesture to the specific moves. E.g., the motions of shoulder, elbow and wrist as you touch your forehead and then your belly button? Or the famous "elbow, elbow, wrist, wrist" parade wave? Simple to do, but to make a mechanical thing do it? Oh well, on ward. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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Hi, Pyotr.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:55:52 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: Greetings and Salutations The problem with not having money, is that you see things, and instead of buying them, you go home and try to figure out how to make one. In this case, it was a lamp with a music box. The whole thing looked like a 'cabin' with a waterwheel, with a lamp socket at the top of the chimney. "cute". But, and this is the clever thing, there were two doors - one served as the switch for the lamp, the other for the music box, which also powered the water wheel. Slick. And cute. So I went home and researched music boxes a bit. They run from $8 to $500, depending on quality, tunes and the like. So I started sketching, counterweights, and pendulums and drums and electro mechanical switches to start and stop an electric motor for winding things up. Great fun. Realized "okay, this is called a 'clock work' for a reason. Somebody must have plans." [...] Anyway, if anyone can post some pointers to clockwork plans, I'd appreciate them. I typed "wooden clock" into HackADay's search box and turned up these: http://hackaday.com/2013/03/19/designing-and-building-a-wooden-mechanical-clock/ http://hackaday.com/2013/07/08/automata-and-wooden-gears/ http://hackaday.com/2011/07/31/do-you-have-what-it-takes-to-make-lumber-keep-time/ Those should be enough to get you started, but they're also likely to make your imagination run off into yet-unexplored places and extend your project. Be careful. grin! Enjoy... Frank McKenney -- He was born with a gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad. -- Rafael Sabatini / Scaramouche -- Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 Munged E-mail: frank uscore mckenney aatt mindspring ddoott com |
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Frnak McKenney on Sat, 23 Aug
2014 12:11:29 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Hi, Pyotr. On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:55:52 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: Greetings and Salutations The problem with not having money, is that you see things, and instead of buying them, you go home and try to figure out how to make one. In this case, it was a lamp with a music box. The whole thing looked like a 'cabin' with a waterwheel, with a lamp socket at the top of the chimney. "cute". But, and this is the clever thing, there were two doors - one served as the switch for the lamp, the other for the music box, which also powered the water wheel. Slick. And cute. So I went home and researched music boxes a bit. They run from $8 to $500, depending on quality, tunes and the like. So I started sketching, counterweights, and pendulums and drums and electro mechanical switches to start and stop an electric motor for winding things up. Great fun. Realized "okay, this is called a 'clock work' for a reason. Somebody must have plans." [...] Anyway, if anyone can post some pointers to clockwork plans, I'd appreciate them. I typed "wooden clock" into HackADay's search box and turned up these: http://hackaday.com/2013/03/19/designing-and-building-a-wooden-mechanical-clock/ http://hackaday.com/2013/07/08/automata-and-wooden-gears/ http://hackaday.com/2011/07/31/do-you-have-what-it-takes-to-make-lumber-keep-time/ Those should be enough to get you started, but they're also likely to make your imagination run off into yet-unexplored places and extend your project. Be careful. grin! I can do that aaaaaaalll by myself. I once had to come up with a "project" for machine shop class. "Parallel holder". Yep, by the time I was done, we had a car driving off the bridge to start the thing, it then pivots up like the monolith in 2001, Godzilla stomps on Bambi causing the front of the monolith to fold down and land on Godzilla's toe, and a bunch of deer with RPGs light him up. Then the proper set of parallels are loaded into the rocket pods on an attack helicopter, which then delivers them to the machine. Decide too much robotics and electronics for a machining project. But it would have been cool. and a good entry in a Rube Goldberg contest. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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