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On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:48:48 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: The odd thing... I have it sitting in my sailboat, hooked to the am/fm stereo so Ive got music while I work. When I disconnected the charger...the power strobed from 16.5-9.1 volts about 5 times. Not the Charger power..but the BATTERY power. WTF? It strobed the stereo..and then the stereo dropped out (its ok, not hurt) So I disconnected the stereo. Put meter leads on the battery, and disconnected one leg of the charger. And the damned battery will strobe from about 9 volts to 16 volts..about a half second per "pulse:. for about 3 seconds..and then drop to 9+ volts. Oh oh! Lead acid batteries that have been allowed to self discharge badly get warped plates. This can cause internal shorts, or break the connections between cells. If the interconnection between the cells goes bad it can get very flaky, With the charger on, it will go to over-voltage when the connection opens, and then go back to charging the string of cells, with maybe 2 that are shorted, giving you your 9 volts. Watch out, when batteries are in this state they can explode. Don't ask how I know THAT little bit, let's just say it had to be the loudest noise I've ever heard indoors. (You get this fizzing discharge around the bad interconnect, it gets hot, electrolysis fills the battery with H2 and O2, and then BOOM!) Jon Thanks for that! Gunner -- "You guess the truth hurts? Really? "Hurt" aint the word. For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug. Sunlight to a vampire. Raid® to a cockroach. Sheriff Brody to a shark Bush to a Liberal The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their dick as a brake. They HATE the truth." --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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![]() Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:48:48 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: The odd thing... I have it sitting in my sailboat, hooked to the am/fm stereo so Ive got music while I work. When I disconnected the charger...the power strobed from 16.5-9.1 volts about 5 times. Not the Charger power..but the BATTERY power. WTF? It strobed the stereo..and then the stereo dropped out (its ok, not hurt) So I disconnected the stereo. Put meter leads on the battery, and disconnected one leg of the charger. And the damned battery will strobe from about 9 volts to 16 volts..about a half second per "pulse:. for about 3 seconds..and then drop to 9+ volts. Oh oh! Lead acid batteries that have been allowed to self discharge badly get warped plates. This can cause internal shorts, or break the connections between cells. If the interconnection between the cells goes bad it can get very flaky, With the charger on, it will go to over-voltage when the connection opens, and then go back to charging the string of cells, with maybe 2 that are shorted, giving you your 9 volts. Watch out, when batteries are in this state they can explode. Don't ask how I know THAT little bit, let's just say it had to be the loudest noise I've ever heard indoors. (You get this fizzing discharge around the bad interconnect, it gets hot, electrolysis fills the battery with H2 and O2, and then BOOM!) That explains the oscillation, from the plate expanding. I wish they still made Christmas lights like that. The LED **** isn't truly random. -- Reply in group, but if emailing, add a zero and remove the last word. |
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