"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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"Ignoramus14139" wrote in message
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On 2013-11-20, John B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:28:02 -0600, Ignoramus24050
wrote:

My driver received two overweight tickets in the amount of $2,500 (one
for overweight over registration and another for overweight on one
axle).

Since his English is worse than my English, I accompanied him to
court, we pled not guilty, and received an appointment for a real
cuort hearing. Today was the date. We showed up, saw the judge, he
asked us to sit down. Five minutes later, the judge calls us and tells
us that we are "dismissed".

I did not really understand why we were dismissed and was afraid to
ask. I have a feeling that it was because the cop who wrote the
ticket, did not show up, and the cop who showed up was a part of the
traffic stop, but was not the one who wrote the ticket.

But this makes me wonder, how stupid could they be to miss $2,500?
What is up with all this? Why are they spending hours catching hapless
overweight drivers, going to initial court appearances, going to
actual court proceedings, and forgetting to bring the right guy or the
right paper?

i

Iggy, to a cop catching illegal truckers is just a job. The boss says
go out and do it so you do, but you don't get all excited about it. It
is just Other People's Money that gets paid to the government.

Over here the cop that stops you will usually get part of the fee that
most people pay to avoid getting the ticket and I can tell you that
these cops take a great deal of interest in seeing that you pay.

What do you mean by "the fee that most people pay to avoid getting the
ticket", a bribe?

Sounds like Mexico. I made a few dollars importing Mexican firebrick by
the pickup load one summer. (Late 1980s) I used to carry my Mexican
Insurance and my Az drivers license in my shirt pocket sandwiched between
a couple twenty dollar bills. I only got stopped by Mexican cops a couple
times in dozens of trips, but when I did I would take the whole thing out
of my pocket and profer the license sliding the bills back towards myself
so it was clear I was offering my license. A couple times they took the
money and that was the end of it. I was never cited for anything. One
guy took both twenties and I complained that was my lunch money, and he
handed one of them back. LOL.

I would note that I got more hassle at the border by US officials than I
ever did from the Mexicans. Even that wasn't to bad back then. I only had
to pay duties a couple times, and they ran the drug sniffing dog around my
load a couple times. Usually the same agents every time it wasn't just a
wave through. Back before 9/11 everything was easier.







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On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:37:16 -0600, Ignoramus14139
wrote:

On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:09:55 -0600, Ignoramus14139
wrote:

On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:28:02 -0600, Ignoramus24050
wrote:

My driver received two overweight tickets in the amount of $2,500 (one
for overweight over registration and another for overweight on one
axle).

Since his English is worse than my English, I accompanied him to
court, we pled not guilty, and received an appointment for a real
cuort hearing. Today was the date. We showed up, saw the judge, he
asked us to sit down. Five minutes later, the judge calls us and tells
us that we are "dismissed".

I did not really understand why we were dismissed and was afraid to
ask. I have a feeling that it was because the cop who wrote the
ticket, did not show up, and the cop who showed up was a part of the
traffic stop, but was not the one who wrote the ticket.

But this makes me wonder, how stupid could they be to miss $2,500?
What is up with all this? Why are they spending hours catching hapless
overweight drivers, going to initial court appearances, going to
actual court proceedings, and forgetting to bring the right guy or the
right paper?


i

They were hitting you with a bogus ticket. Many companies dont bother
to fight em...its just part of doing business in your corrupt part of
the world. When you showed up..the cop was NOT prepared to deal with
you and in fact..he was probably out writing more bogus tickets.

Tickets against truck drivers is very big money for cash strapped
government agencies. We here in California see it with some
regularity in certain parts of the state. The California Hiway Patrol
will be sitting somewhere concealed..or semi concealed..radar/laser
gun out (I have a multi detector in my Ranger) and utterly ignoring
private vehicles driving at up to 85+ mphs as they go by..but a truck
going 57..is an instant gold mine ..as our speed limits for commercial
vehicles with 3 or more axles is 55mph.

And this was admitted to me by a officer in that agency I know quite
well.

I would never open a business in California.

i

Just a heads up..other than the environmental agencies spit...most
of California is far far more honest than any part of Illinois.

Seriously. And Ive been all over.


I am sure that it is more honest, but has more burdensome
regulations. The trucking emissions regulations are outrageous.

i
Indeed they are. But..they are in black and white and bribery and
corruption isnt encounted very often. Well...except in Latino/black
run small cities...google "city of Bell"...it looks just like half the
East Coast.


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On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:36:14 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ignoramus14139" wrote in message
m...
On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:09:55 -0600, Ignoramus14139
wrote:

On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:28:02 -0600, Ignoramus24050
wrote:

My driver received two overweight tickets in the amount of $2,500 (one
for overweight over registration and another for overweight on one
axle).

Since his English is worse than my English, I accompanied him to
court, we pled not guilty, and received an appointment for a real
cuort hearing. Today was the date. We showed up, saw the judge, he
asked us to sit down. Five minutes later, the judge calls us and tells
us that we are "dismissed".

I did not really understand why we were dismissed and was afraid to
ask. I have a feeling that it was because the cop who wrote the
ticket, did not show up, and the cop who showed up was a part of the
traffic stop, but was not the one who wrote the ticket.

But this makes me wonder, how stupid could they be to miss $2,500?
What is up with all this? Why are they spending hours catching hapless
overweight drivers, going to initial court appearances, going to
actual court proceedings, and forgetting to bring the right guy or the
right paper?


i

They were hitting you with a bogus ticket. Many companies dont bother
to fight em...its just part of doing business in your corrupt part of
the world. When you showed up..the cop was NOT prepared to deal with
you and in fact..he was probably out writing more bogus tickets.

Tickets against truck drivers is very big money for cash strapped
government agencies. We here in California see it with some
regularity in certain parts of the state. The California Hiway Patrol
will be sitting somewhere concealed..or semi concealed..radar/laser
gun out (I have a multi detector in my Ranger) and utterly ignoring
private vehicles driving at up to 85+ mphs as they go by..but a truck
going 57..is an instant gold mine ..as our speed limits for commercial
vehicles with 3 or more axles is 55mph.

And this was admitted to me by a officer in that agency I know quite
well.

I would never open a business in California.

i

Just a heads up..other than the environmental agencies spit...most
of California is far far more honest than any part of Illinois.

Seriously. And Ive been all over.


I am sure that it is more honest, but has more burdensome
regulations. The trucking emissions regulations are outrageous.

That is true. One of my buddies has recently gotten into the regional
trucking business, and he told me in a couple years Ca will require full
compliance with ALL Ca regs for all commercial vehicles entering the state
regardless of federal regs or regs in their home state. He said there are
truck lines gearing up to pick up loads at the border for other truck lines
because of it.

Ayup. The 10 Freeway at the Aridzona border is going to become a
rather significant Port of Entry to California..with lots and lots of
load transfer facilities. Same with the 80 freeway..and thats already
happening up there.

It will resemble the Mexican border in many ways.






i


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On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:32:46 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:28:02 -0600, Ignoramus24050
wrote:

My driver received two overweight tickets in the amount of $2,500 (one
for overweight over registration and another for overweight on one
axle).

Since his English is worse than my English, I accompanied him to
court, we pled not guilty, and received an appointment for a real
cuort hearing. Today was the date. We showed up, saw the judge, he
asked us to sit down. Five minutes later, the judge calls us and tells
us that we are "dismissed".

I did not really understand why we were dismissed and was afraid to
ask. I have a feeling that it was because the cop who wrote the
ticket, did not show up, and the cop who showed up was a part of the
traffic stop, but was not the one who wrote the ticket.

But this makes me wonder, how stupid could they be to miss $2,500?
What is up with all this? Why are they spending hours catching hapless
overweight drivers, going to initial court appearances, going to
actual court proceedings, and forgetting to bring the right guy or the
right paper?


i

They were hitting you with a bogus ticket. Many companies dont bother
to fight em...its just part of doing business in your corrupt part of
the world. When you showed up..the cop was NOT prepared to deal with
you and in fact..he was probably out writing more bogus tickets.

Tickets against truck drivers is very big money for cash strapped
government agencies. We here in California see it with some
regularity in certain parts of the state. The California Hiway Patrol
will be sitting somewhere concealed..or semi concealed..radar/laser
gun out (I have a multi detector in my Ranger) and utterly ignoring
private vehicles driving at up to 85+ mphs as they go by..but a truck
going 57..is an instant gold mine ..as our speed limits for commercial
vehicles with 3 or more axles is 55mph.

The way I read it any vehicle pulling a trailer is limited to 55MPH also. I
know when I picked up my mill in Hemmet I set the cruise control and never
varied the speed 1 iota. I had an elevated stress level the whole time I
was driving across Ca. When I crossed the I-8 bridge back into Az I was so
relieved it was like waking up from a good night's sleep.

True indeed. When I have a trailer on board..Im liable to the 55 mph
speed limit. However..that being said..they pretty much ignore me as
Im not considered a "commercial vehicle". Tickets here start at about
$475 and go up for truckers.












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On 2013-11-20, Bob La Londe wrote:
I am sure that it is more honest, but has more burdensome
regulations. The trucking emissions regulations are outrageous.

That is true. One of my buddies has recently gotten into the regional
trucking business, and he told me in a couple years Ca will require full
compliance with ALL Ca regs for all commercial vehicles entering the state
regardless of federal regs or regs in their home state. He said there are
truck lines gearing up to pick up loads at the border for other truck lines
because of it.

This is exactly what ****es me off the most.

i

On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
Indeed they are. But..they are in black and white and bribery and
corruption isnt encounted very often. Well...except in Latino/black
run small cities...google "city of Bell"...it looks just like half the
East Coast.

I keep hearing how corrupt Illinois is, and I am sure that it is
corrupt, but to date, I have never been asked to pay any bribes.

i

"Ignoramus14139" wrote in message
...
On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
Indeed they are. But..they are in black and white and bribery and
corruption isnt encounted very often. Well...except in Latino/black
run small cities...google "city of Bell"...it looks just like half the
East Coast.

I keep hearing how corrupt Illinois is, and I am sure that it is
corrupt, but to date, I have never been asked to pay any bribes.

i

Chicago is cutting out the middle man with all the new
speed and red light cameras. No cops to bribe.

Best Regards
Tom.

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:23:50 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
m:

Crikey, that's expensive! Is that the normal ticket fee? What kind
of overweight condition did you have, anyway? 8,000 pounds?

We had a ticket that high for 50lb over on one axle, in New Jersey.

Hayseuss Crisco!


I clearly remember that instance: we were about 70lb over on _One_Axle_,
and better than 2000lb to the good on the whole load, it was just poorly
distributed in a 24,001 lb box truck (heavy stuff was on one side).

The NJ State DOT "enforcement officer" wrote the citation. Then he would
not let the driver re-arrange the load to correct it. Since it was a
fireworks load, he 'had to' confiscate and impound the truck until we hired
a UNION team of 'qualified explosives handlers' to re-jigger the load so we
could continue. (just teamsters with no particular qualifications except a
union card)

That burns me up to no end. I was behind the scenes before a computer
show (COMDEX '98) in Vegas when I heard a vendor cry about getting
electricity to his 100 s/f "lot". The outlet box was there, behind
him, but it seemed that it required a Union electrician (more
Teamsters) to plug a 120V 5A sign into a 120V 20A floor outlet,
something a 5 year old child could do safely. Grrrrrrrrrrr!

that power cord racket is obnoxious. we just figured any cable they
installed for use at those trade show prices was free to take home after
the show. They used twistloc plugs to be obnoxious, but those are easily
replaced with normal ones.

jim writes:



According to the story the court spent 5 minutes doing
something. The citation could have been deficient. One likely
deficiency would be that it made it clear there

More likely the cop did not show up. That's why you do
not plead guilty; many times the cop won't bother.


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David Lesher wrote:

jim writes:

According to the story the court spent 5 minutes doing
something. The citation could have been deficient. One likely
deficiency would be that it made it clear there

More likely the cop did not show up. That's why you do
not plead guilty; many times the cop won't bother.


That shouldn't matter much if there was evidence
the truck had been weighed.

I'm assuming Iggy would not have concealed the fact
that the truck had been weighed and found to be
$2500 fines worth overweight.

I suspect citation had no statement of how much the truck
weighed and the Judge could see it was pointless to
continue.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:19:43 -0600, Ignoramus14139
wrote:

On 2013-11-20, John B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:28:02 -0600, Ignoramus24050
wrote:

My driver received two overweight tickets in the amount of $2,500 (one
for overweight over registration and another for overweight on one
axle).

Since his English is worse than my English, I accompanied him to
court, we pled not guilty, and received an appointment for a real
cuort hearing. Today was the date. We showed up, saw the judge, he
asked us to sit down. Five minutes later, the judge calls us and tells
us that we are "dismissed".

I did not really understand why we were dismissed and was afraid to
ask. I have a feeling that it was because the cop who wrote the
ticket, did not show up, and the cop who showed up was a part of the
traffic stop, but was not the one who wrote the ticket.

But this makes me wonder, how stupid could they be to miss $2,500?
What is up with all this? Why are they spending hours catching hapless
overweight drivers, going to initial court appearances, going to
actual court proceedings, and forgetting to bring the right guy or the
right paper?

i

Iggy, to a cop catching illegal truckers is just a job. The boss says
go out and do it so you do, but you don't get all excited about it. It
is just Other People's Money that gets paid to the government.

Over here the cop that stops you will usually get part of the fee that
most people pay to avoid getting the ticket and I can tell you that
these cops take a great deal of interest in seeing that you pay.

What do you mean by "the fee that most people pay to avoid getting the
ticket", a bribe?

It is termed a gratuity or "tea money" - "have a cup of tea". But you
foreigners call it a bribe.

Over here you can either hand the cop some money or you can wait two
days while the ticket is being processed and then report to the
station where the policeman is assigned, and pay a fine which
certainly will be larger than the amount you give the policeman at the
scene.

Take you pick :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:41:35 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ignoramus14139" wrote in message
...
On 2013-11-20, John B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:28:02 -0600, Ignoramus24050
wrote:

My driver received two overweight tickets in the amount of $2,500 (one
for overweight over registration and another for overweight on one
axle).

Since his English is worse than my English, I accompanied him to
court, we pled not guilty, and received an appointment for a real
cuort hearing. Today was the date. We showed up, saw the judge, he
asked us to sit down. Five minutes later, the judge calls us and tells
us that we are "dismissed".

I did not really understand why we were dismissed and was afraid to
ask. I have a feeling that it was because the cop who wrote the
ticket, did not show up, and the cop who showed up was a part of the
traffic stop, but was not the one who wrote the ticket.

But this makes me wonder, how stupid could they be to miss $2,500?
What is up with all this? Why are they spending hours catching hapless
overweight drivers, going to initial court appearances, going to
actual court proceedings, and forgetting to bring the right guy or the
right paper?

i

Iggy, to a cop catching illegal truckers is just a job. The boss says
go out and do it so you do, but you don't get all excited about it. It
is just Other People's Money that gets paid to the government.

Over here the cop that stops you will usually get part of the fee that
most people pay to avoid getting the ticket and I can tell you that
these cops take a great deal of interest in seeing that you pay.

What do you mean by "the fee that most people pay to avoid getting the
ticket", a bribe?

Sounds like Mexico. I made a few dollars importing Mexican firebrick by the
pickup load one summer. (Late 1980s) I used to carry my Mexican Insurance
and my Az drivers license in my shirt pocket sandwiched between a couple
twenty dollar bills. I only got stopped by Mexican cops a couple times in
dozens of trips, but when I did I would take the whole thing out of my
pocket and profer the license sliding the bills back towards myself so it
was clear I was offering my license. A couple times they took the money and
that was the end of it. I was never cited for anything. One guy took both
twenties and I complained that was my lunch money, and he handed one of them
back. LOL.


Here it is so common that the Bangkok Post published an article about
it, including an interview with a traffic policeman who explained that
firstly, it is not money that you pay the officer who stops you, it is
money paid into a central fund at each police station that all the
police assigned to the station receive a share of. Secondly, the
individual policeman's opinion seems to be that the "fine" is a
punishment for your misdeeds and whether it goes into the pockets of
the government or of the police it has still served the purpose of
penalizing the evildoer.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Gunner Asch on Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:54:55 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
I am sure that it is more honest, but has more burdensome
regulations. The trucking emissions regulations are outrageous.

That is true. One of my buddies has recently gotten into the regional
trucking business, and he told me in a couple years Ca will require full
compliance with ALL Ca regs for all commercial vehicles entering the state
regardless of federal regs or regs in their home state. He said there are
truck lines gearing up to pick up loads at the border for other truck lines
because of it.

Ayup. The 10 Freeway at the Aridzona border is going to become a
rather significant Port of Entry to California..with lots and lots of
load transfer facilities. Same with the 80 freeway..and thats already
happening up there.

"Where there is stupidity, there are business opportunities."
Lech Walesa, Former President of Poland.

Hmm, wonder if the California Greenies will like it when the
truckers switch back to ox carts and horses.


--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:39:41 -0600, Ignoramus14139
wrote:

On 2013-11-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
Indeed they are. But..they are in black and white and bribery and
corruption isnt encounted very often. Well...except in Latino/black
run small cities...google "city of Bell"...it looks just like half the
East Coast.

I keep hearing how corrupt Illinois is, and I am sure that it is
corrupt, but to date, I have never been asked to pay any bribes.

i

You are not a big enough fish yet. But..they will get around to you
sooner or later.


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balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
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Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of
portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I
think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw
one.

Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you
were legal?
(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of
portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I
think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw
one.

Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you
were legal?
(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)

I did look, and I did not find anything cheap.

That time, we were grossly overweight. We just did not realize
it. Both me and my driver walked around the truck prior to departure,
looked at the tires etc, and decided that it was probably not
overweight. We were wrong.

On the way, village cops caught him on the interstate, hauled my
driver to a scale at a plant. He could not weigh his truck there,
because it was a lowboy trailer and it caught on the scale with the
bottom. They only wrote down his front weight. Took him to a parking
lot and completed weighing with a portable scale, but only weighed the
rear.

I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took
the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite
differently from what was in the ticket.

So I knew that they did not weigh him correctly. I wanted to contest
the ticket based on that, use of multiple scales etc. But as you know,
something happened and our ticket was dismissed.

i

On Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:47:42 PM UTC-8, Ignoramus32387 wrote:
On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387

wrote:



On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:

Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?



Yes it would.



i







Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from

me to the scrap yard.



i



Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of

portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I

think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw

one.



Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you

were legal?

(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)



I did look, and I did not find anything cheap.



That time, we were grossly overweight. We just did not realize

it. Both me and my driver walked around the truck prior to departure,

looked at the tires etc, and decided that it was probably not

overweight. We were wrong.



On the way, village cops caught him on the interstate, hauled my

driver to a scale at a plant. He could not weigh his truck there,

because it was a lowboy trailer and it caught on the scale with the

bottom. They only wrote down his front weight. Took him to a parking

lot and completed weighing with a portable scale, but only weighed the

rear.



I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took

the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite

differently from what was in the ticket.



So I knew that they did not weigh him correctly. I wanted to contest

the ticket based on that, use of multiple scales etc. But as you know,

something happened and our ticket was dismissed.



i

Once again iggy left out critical information that should have been in his initial post. This asshole is really nothing more than a one-trick pony.

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:47:42 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of
portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I
think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw
one.

Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you
were legal?
(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)

I did look, and I did not find anything cheap.

That time, we were grossly overweight. We just did not realize
it. Both me and my driver walked around the truck prior to departure,
looked at the tires etc, and decided that it was probably not
overweight. We were wrong.

On the way, village cops caught him on the interstate, hauled my
driver to a scale at a plant. He could not weigh his truck there,
because it was a lowboy trailer and it caught on the scale with the
bottom. They only wrote down his front weight. Took him to a parking
lot and completed weighing with a portable scale, but only weighed the
rear.

Just idle curiosity as the whole thing seems like a comedy. I would
wonder why they stopped him in the first place? If it was a lowboy
there probably weren't any springs on the trailer to look at and you
seem to imply that the tires weren't crushed flat.

I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took
the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite
differently from what was in the ticket.

So I knew that they did not weigh him correctly. I wanted to contest
the ticket based on that, use of multiple scales etc. But as you know,
something happened and our ticket was dismissed.

i
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:47:42 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of
portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I
think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw
one.

Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you
were legal?
(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)

I did look, and I did not find anything cheap.

That time, we were grossly overweight. We just did not realize
it. Both me and my driver walked around the truck prior to departure,
looked at the tires etc, and decided that it was probably not
overweight. We were wrong.

On the way, village cops caught him on the interstate, hauled my
driver to a scale at a plant. He could not weigh his truck there,
because it was a lowboy trailer and it caught on the scale with the
bottom. They only wrote down his front weight. Took him to a parking
lot and completed weighing with a portable scale, but only weighed the
rear.

I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took
the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite
differently from what was in the ticket.

So I knew that they did not weigh him correctly. I wanted to contest
the ticket based on that, use of multiple scales etc. But as you know,
something happened and our ticket was dismissed.

The judge likely saw two different scales and a whole lot of movement
in between, plus the missing officer, and thought that the officer had
gone way beyond legalities and he dropped the case. I hope the
officer got a real nice chewing out by the judge, too, don't you?
Maybe fewer people will be nailed by the guy in the future.

--
The business of America is not business. Neither is it war. The business
of America is justice and securing the blessings of liberty.
-- George F. Will

Ignoramus32387 wrote:


I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took
the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite
differently from what was in the ticket.

The reason you were contesting the citation is because you
had a receipt from the scrap yard in hand that showed the
citation was wrong.

Let me guess:
you mentioned your evidence and defense in the clerk of
courts office when you appeared to contest the citation.

On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:47:42 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of
portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I
think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw
one.

Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you
were legal?
(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)

I did look, and I did not find anything cheap.

That time, we were grossly overweight. We just did not realize
it. Both me and my driver walked around the truck prior to departure,
looked at the tires etc, and decided that it was probably not
overweight. We were wrong.

On the way, village cops caught him on the interstate, hauled my
driver to a scale at a plant. He could not weigh his truck there,
because it was a lowboy trailer and it caught on the scale with the
bottom. They only wrote down his front weight. Took him to a parking
lot and completed weighing with a portable scale, but only weighed the
rear.

Just idle curiosity as the whole thing seems like a comedy. I would
wonder why they stopped him in the first place? If it was a lowboy
there probably weren't any springs on the trailer to look at and you
seem to imply that the tires weren't crushed flat.

I do not know, but they probably have a good eye for overweight
trucks.

i

On 2013-11-24, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:47:42 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-24, John B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:15:17 -0600, Ignoramus32387
wrote:

On 2013-11-23, gary wrote:
Would that be @ the I-55 Truck plaza in Bolingbrook?

Yes it would.

i



Exactly. And in my case, the CAT scale is very far from the way from
me to the scrap yard.

i

Years ago the State Police in New Hampshire used to have some sort of
portable scale that they used to catch over weight logging trucks. I
think that they weighed one wheel at a time, but never actually saw
one.

Do that have anything similar now that you could use to make sure you
were legal?
(that sells for less than 2,000 dollars?)

I did look, and I did not find anything cheap.

That time, we were grossly overweight. We just did not realize
it. Both me and my driver walked around the truck prior to departure,
looked at the tires etc, and decided that it was probably not
overweight. We were wrong.

On the way, village cops caught him on the interstate, hauled my
driver to a scale at a plant. He could not weigh his truck there,
because it was a lowboy trailer and it caught on the scale with the
bottom. They only wrote down his front weight. Took him to a parking
lot and completed weighing with a portable scale, but only weighed the
rear.

I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took
the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite
differently from what was in the ticket.

So I knew that they did not weigh him correctly. I wanted to contest
the ticket based on that, use of multiple scales etc. But as you know,
something happened and our ticket was dismissed.

The judge likely saw two different scales and a whole lot of movement
in between, plus the missing officer, and thought that the officer had
gone way beyond legalities and he dropped the case. I hope the
officer got a real nice chewing out by the judge, too, don't you?
Maybe fewer people will be nailed by the guy in the future.


The officer did not get chewing, no, I believe that the ticket-writing
officer was not present and another officer, who was part of the stop
but did not write the ticket, was present.

i

On 2013-11-24, jim "sjedgingN0Sp"@m wrote:


Ignoramus32387 wrote:


I know that they screwed something up, because later my driver took
the truck to a scrap yard, where he was found to weigh quite
differently from what was in the ticket.

The reason you were contesting the citation is because you
had a receipt from the scrap yard in hand that showed the
citation was wrong.

Let me guess:
you mentioned your evidence and defense in the clerk of
courts office when you appeared to contest the citation.

I did not mention the scrap yard ticket in any way.

i