The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways. The upside is I
got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Pete Keillor

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:56:00 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways. The upside is I
got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Pete Keillor

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

Karl

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:56:00 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways.

Around here, the cobs get into that, too. They put up webs which
catch small items for short times. Y'know? Just until I've found a
replacement for the missing part. They then let it go so I can see it
again. Other than wolf spiders, which I catch and release into the
wild, I kill all the damned cobs. I was in shorts once in LoCal and
sitting at the dining room table. As I scooted my chair back,
something very large landed just above my right knee. I was terrified
until I looked down and realized that it was just a 2-1/2" dia wolf
spider. I scooped him up in both hands and let him go outside. That
was one big bastid.


The upside is I got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Excellent, Pete. Now you have a spare phenolic washer, too!

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:06:44 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:56:00 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways.

Around here, the cobs get into that, too. They put up webs which
catch small items for short times. Y'know? Just until I've found a
replacement for the missing part. They then let it go so I can see it
again. Other than wolf spiders, which I catch and release into the
wild, I kill all the damned cobs. I was in shorts once in LoCal and
sitting at the dining room table. As I scooted my chair back,
something very large landed just above my right knee. I was terrified
until I looked down and realized that it was just a 2-1/2" dia wolf
spider. I scooped him up in both hands and let him go outside. That
was one big bastid.


The upside is I got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Excellent, Pete. Now you have a spare phenolic washer, too!

We've got those wolf spiders. Big suckers that live in holes in the
ground in the acre out back. If you shine a good flashlight out there
after dark, you'll see hundreds of little reflections from their eyes.

Very cool.

Pete

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:56:00 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways. The upside is I
got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Pete Keillor
Greetings Pete,
I bought and built one of those filing machines. I did make some mods
though. One was putting an oil groove in the bronze bushing for the
drive shaft. Inside the machine I extended the bushing so that oil
would rain down on it. On the top of the bushing I made a conical hole
that intersects the oil groove. So oil lands in the hole and provides
plenty of oil for the drive shaft. I made the sliding block in the
Scotch yoke out of aluminum nickel bronze. The machine works very
well, is very quiet, and I can back drive it by grasping the file and
pushing and pulling on it. Scotch yokes aren't really made to back
driven so the friction in my machine must be pretty low.
Eric

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:59:02 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:56:00 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways. The upside is I
got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Pete Keillor
Greetings Pete,
I bought and built one of those filing machines. I did make some mods
though. One was putting an oil groove in the bronze bushing for the
drive shaft. Inside the machine I extended the bushing so that oil
would rain down on it. On the top of the bushing I made a conical hole
that intersects the oil groove. So oil lands in the hole and provides
plenty of oil for the drive shaft. I made the sliding block in the
Scotch yoke out of aluminum nickel bronze. The machine works very
well, is very quiet, and I can back drive it by grasping the file and
pushing and pulling on it. Scotch yokes aren't really made to back
driven so the friction in my machine must be pretty low.
Eric

Thanks for the info. I intended to put the hole in the bushing. The
groove is a good idea. I used 954 bronze for the block. I'll post an
update when I get it running.

Pete

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen

On 9/13/2013 6:45 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

When I'm taking apart something with hard to replace parts, I do so
within either a white pillow case or a large clear garbage bag. Those
spring loaded thingies don't go far or find nooks and crannies.

David

Larry Jaques on Fri, 13 Sep 2013
16:45:39 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

How is it for finding the standard ****load?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

I want to know about Whitworth thread ****loads?

..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 9/14/2013 3:16 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

How is it for finding the standard ****load?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

"David R. Birch" wrote in message
...
On 9/13/2013 6:45 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

When I'm taking apart something with hard to replace parts, I do so
within either a white pillow case or a large clear garbage bag.
Those spring loaded thingies don't go far or find nooks and
crannies.

David

A flashlight lying on the floor makes tiny parts cast long shadows.

jsw

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:16:43 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Larry Jaques on Fri, 13 Sep 2013
16:45:39 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

How is it for finding the standard ****load?

Haven't you heard? SAE is passé. Besides, the MS is larger than the
SS, so it's more impressive to refer to, for folks who like that kind
of thing.


--
Try not to become a man of success but
rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:12:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"David R. Birch" wrote in message
...
On 9/13/2013 6:45 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

When I'm taking apart something with hard to replace parts, I do so
within either a white pillow case or a large clear garbage bag.
Those spring loaded thingies don't go far or find nooks and
crannies.

David

A flashlight lying on the floor makes tiny parts cast long shadows.

In theory, yes. In reality, silver-gray metal (screws, springs,
clips, etc.) on a gray concrete floor cast a gray shadow. And since
most things aren't white, the contrast is much better on my white
floor. YMMV.

(I got -so- burned out on battleship gray working for one company, I
never want to see the color again, TYVM. The building, floors, walls,
carpeting, chairs, tech benches, and ceilings were all shades of gray.
Damned old Navy farts, I swear...)



--
Try not to become a man of success but
rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:56:00 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote:

The tailstock on my lathe was getting loose, so I decided to pull it
apart. I've been working on one of Andy Lofquist's casting kits, the
filing machine. Anyway, took it apart, placed the phenolic thrust
washer on the tailstock base, cleaned stuff up. Couldn't find the
washer. Not anywhere. Damn! I guess the quantum effect of small
parts tunneling to Floyd's Knob, Indiana is true.

I had some bronze bushing stock for the filing machine, so I made a
new washer, twice as thick to allow for previous wear. Was putting
things back together after washing out the bore, and that damn
phenolic washer appeared out of nowhere and fell in the base casting
where I had looked with a flashlight a dozen times trying to find it.

I guess that quantum tunneling thing works both ways. The upside is I
got rid of most of the play in the tailstock ram.

Pete Keillor

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

Karl

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

Saved!!

Gunner

"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen



Exactly, if you are working on something full of ping****its, do it in a
sterile area.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:12:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:
A flashlight lying on the floor makes tiny parts cast long shadows.

In theory, yes. In reality, silver-gray metal (screws, springs,
clips, etc.) on a gray concrete floor cast a gray shadow. And since
most things aren't white, the contrast is much better on my white
floor. YMMV.

I never had that choice at the R&D labs I worked in. The worst floor
for finding small parts is in the lab at Segway. It's a randomly
speckled tile that could hide a golfball.
jsw

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:36:55 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:12:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:
A flashlight lying on the floor makes tiny parts cast long shadows.

In theory, yes. In reality, silver-gray metal (screws, springs,
clips, etc.) on a gray concrete floor cast a gray shadow. And since
most things aren't white, the contrast is much better on my white
floor. YMMV.

I never had that choice at the R&D labs I worked in. The worst floor
for finding small parts is in the lab at Segway. It's a randomly
speckled tile that could hide a golfball.

I HATE that ****. It's an eyesore. I even turned down a job of
applying that crap to a guy's garage floor once, and I needed the
money. Ick! Not only is it gray, it's made with glitter. Erk!

--
Try not to become a man of success but
rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein

Larry Jaques on Sat, 14 Sep 2013
20:59:57 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:16:43 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Larry Jaques on Fri, 13 Sep 2013
16:45:39 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

How is it for finding the standard ****load?

Haven't you heard? SAE is passé.

Maybe so, but I still have a few standard ****loads around. Just
wondering.

Besides, the MS is larger than the
SS, so it's more impressive to refer to, for folks who like that kind
of thing.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:55:15 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Larry Jaques on Sat, 14 Sep 2013
20:59:57 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:16:43 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Larry Jaques on Fri, 13 Sep 2013
16:45:39 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:05:24 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My parts are concrete soluable...

Drop them on the floor, they are frickin' GONE.

I painted my shop floor white. When I keep it clean, it makes part
finding a metric ****load easier.

How is it for finding the standard ****load?

Haven't you heard? SAE is passé.

Maybe so, but I still have a few standard ****loads around. Just
wondering.

Simple: Modify one to the metric level and ****can the other ****load.


--
Try not to become a man of success but
rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 06:12:42 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:36:55 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:12:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:
A flashlight lying on the floor makes tiny parts cast long shadows.

In theory, yes. In reality, silver-gray metal (screws, springs,
clips, etc.) on a gray concrete floor cast a gray shadow. And since
most things aren't white, the contrast is much better on my white
floor. YMMV.

I never had that choice at the R&D labs I worked in. The worst floor
for finding small parts is in the lab at Segway. It's a randomly
speckled tile that could hide a golfball.

I HATE that ****. It's an eyesore. I even turned down a job of
applying that crap to a guy's garage floor once, and I needed the
money. Ick! Not only is it gray, it's made with glitter. Erk!

You can put down the solid color epoxy without adding the speckle
flakes - when you explain why, you might get them to leave them out.

Problem with the floor painting systems, they just slop them on - and
they fill in and obscure that nice stamped into the concrete sign on
the garage floor of many newer houses...

"WARNING - Post Tensioned Slab, Do Not Cut Or Drill!"