On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:24:28 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
(Bush Press Secretary) Ari Fleischer recently said that the Nazis

"followed the law of war"



Do you still think the Bushies were the best in the White House now?



-- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3209738.html

-- http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/guantanamo

Mr Fleischer,I suggest you read your history... Germany (WII)had some excellent
military leaders who followed the rules of war ...The first to come to my mind
is Erwin Rommel(not a nazi) and their were others who were not Nazi `s...

Nazi (SS Soldiers and any German associated with the Nazi party deserved what was dished out to them by the Russian & underground groups all over Europe..

Ruthless filthy killers who believed they were superior to to all other peoples
on this planet...They had their butts kicked and kicked hard!!!

Fought by the rules of war ,read your history........Charles

On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:26:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:24:28 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
(Bush Press Secretary) Ari Fleischer recently said that the Nazis

"followed the law of war"



Do you still think the Bushies were the best in the White House now?



-- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3209738.html

-- http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/guantanamo

Mr Fleischer,I suggest you read your history... Germany (WII)had some excellent
military leaders who followed the rules of war ...The first to come to my mind
is Erwin Rommel(not a nazi) and their were others who were not Nazi `s...

Nazi (SS Soldiers and any German associated with the Nazi party deserved what was dished out to them by the Russian & underground groups all over Europe..

Ruthless filthy killers who believed they were superior to to all other peoples
on this planet...They had their butts kicked and kicked hard!!!

Fought by the rules of war ,read your history........Charles

It should be clearly stated that not all..or even the majority of the
SS were foul murderers. Many..not all but most of the SS organizations
were simply excellent soldiers who were not involved in atrocities.
These were generally the Waffen SS.

Notable exceptions to this were the SS-Totenkopfverbände and the
Einsatzgroupen. And of course..many of the foreign bands of SS such as
the Foreign Groups.

Gunner





"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it
very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having
left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as
best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame
us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an
honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

On Sat, 04 May 2013 14:52:59 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:26:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:24:28 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
(Bush Press Secretary) Ari Fleischer recently said that the Nazis

"followed the law of war"



Do you still think the Bushies were the best in the White House now?



-- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3209738.html

-- http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/guantanamo

Mr Fleischer,I suggest you read your history... Germany (WII)had some excellent
military leaders who followed the rules of war ...The first to come to my mind
is Erwin Rommel(not a nazi) and their were others who were not Nazi `s...

Nazi (SS Soldiers and any German associated with the Nazi party deserved what was dished out to them by the Russian & underground groups all over Europe..

Ruthless filthy killers who believed they were superior to to all other peoples
on this planet...They had their butts kicked and kicked hard!!!

Fought by the rules of war ,read your history........Charles

It should be clearly stated that not all..or even the majority of the
SS were foul murderers. Many..not all but most of the SS organizations
were simply excellent soldiers who were not involved in atrocities.

Apart from the murdering civilians and American prisoners,
administering death camps and raping even German women bits.


Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.
Location near Malmedy, Belgium
Date December 17, 1944
Attack type Mass murder
Deaths 80 American POWs
Perpetrators 1st SS Panzer Division

The Malmedy massacre was a war crime in which 80 American prisoners of
war were murdered by their German captors during World War II. The
massacre was committed on December 17, 1944, by members of Kampfgruppe
Peiper (part of the 1st SS Panzer Division), a German combat unit,
during the Battle of the Bulge.

Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...3-0224a-1-.gif


These were generally the Waffen SS.

At the post-war Nuremberg Trials the Waffen-SS was condemned as a
criminal organization due to its essential connection to the Nazi
Party and involvement in war crimes.

1944.jpg
Polish civilians murdered by German SS-troops

On Sat, 04 May 2013 14:52:59 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 13:26:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, May 3, 2013 4:24:28 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
(Bush Press Secretary) Ari Fleischer recently said that the Nazis

"followed the law of war"



Do you still think the Bushies were the best in the White House now?



-- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3209738.html

-- http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/guantanamo

Mr Fleischer,I suggest you read your history... Germany (WII)had some excellent
military leaders who followed the rules of war ...The first to come to my mind
is Erwin Rommel(not a nazi) and their were others who were not Nazi `s...

Nazi (SS Soldiers and any German associated with the Nazi party deserved what was dished out to them by the Russian & underground groups all over Europe..

Ruthless filthy killers who believed they were superior to to all other peoples
on this planet...They had their butts kicked and kicked hard!!!

Fought by the rules of war ,read your history........Charles

It should be clearly stated that not all..or even the majority of the
SS were foul murderers. Many..not all but most of the SS organizations
were simply excellent soldiers who were not involved in atrocities.

Apart from the murdering civilians and American prisoners,
administering death camps and raping even German women bits.


Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.
Location near Malmedy, Belgium
Date December 17, 1944
Attack type Mass murder
Deaths 80 American POWs
Perpetrators 1st SS Panzer Division

The Malmedy massacre was a war crime in which 80 American prisoners of
war were murdered by their German captors during World War II. The
massacre was committed on December 17, 1944, by members of Kampfgruppe
Peiper (part of the 1st SS Panzer Division), a German combat unit,
during the Battle of the Bulge.

Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...3-0224a-1-.gif


These were generally the Waffen SS.

At the post-war Nuremberg Trials the Waffen-SS was condemned as a
criminal organization due to its essential connection to the Nazi
Party and involvement in war crimes.

1944.jpg
Polish civilians murdered by German SS-troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS

At the other end of Europe, the Waffen-SS was dealing with the Warsaw
Uprising. Between August and October 1944, the Dirlewanger Brigade
(recruited from criminals and the mentally ill throughout Germany) and
the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade RONA were sent to Warsaw with the explicit
goal of putting down the uprising. During the battle, the Dirlewanger
behaved atrociously, raping, looting and killing citizens of Warsaw
regardless of whether they belonged to the Polish resistance or not;
the unit commander SS-Oberführer Oskar Dirlewanger himself encouraged
their excesses.

The unit's behavior was reportedly so bestial and indiscriminate that
Himmler was forced to send a battalion of SS military police for the
sole purpose of ensuring the Dirlewanger convicts did not turn their
aggressions against the leadership of the brigade, or other nearby
German units.[95] At the same time they were encouraged by Himmler to
terrorize freely, take no prisoners, and generally indulge their
perverse tendencies. Favoured tactics of the Dirlewanger men during
the siege reportedly included the ubiquitous gang rape of female
Poles, both women and children; playing "bayonet catch" with live
babies; and torturing captives to death by hacking off their arms,
dousing them with gasoline, and setting them alight to run armless and
flaming down the street.[96][97]

The Dirlewanger brigade committed almost non-stop atrocities during
this period, in particular the four-day Wola massacre. The other unit
Waffen-Sturm-Brigade RONA (made up of ethnic German volunteers from
the occupied regions of the Soviet Union) was tasked with clearing the
Ochota district in Warsaw that was defended by members of the Polish
Underground Home Army.

Their attack was planned for the morning of August 5, but when the
time came, the RONA unit could not be found; after some searching by
the SS military police, members of the unit were found looting
abandoned houses in the rear of the German column. Later, thousands of
Polish civilians were killed by the RONA SS men during the events
known as Ochota massacre; many victims were also raped

The behaviour of the RONA during the battle was an embarrassment even
to the SS, and the alleged rape and murder of two German Strength
Through Joy (Kdf) girls may have played a part in the eventual
execution of the brigade's commander

Germans and more recently Muslims.
Providing good reason never to surrender.
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..
..
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message ...

Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.
Location near Malmedy, Belgium
Date December 17, 1944
Attack type Mass murder
Deaths 80 American POWs
Perpetrators 1st SS Panzer Division

The Malmedy massacre was a war crime in which 80 American prisoners of
war were murdered by their German captors during World War II. The
massacre was committed on December 17, 1944, by members of Kampfgruppe
Peiper (part of the 1st SS Panzer Division), a German combat unit,
during the Battle of the Bulge.

Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...3-0224a-1-.gif


At the post-war Nuremberg Trials the Waffen-SS was condemned as a
criminal organization due to its essential connection to the Nazi
Party and involvement in war crimes.

1944.jpg
Polish civilians murdered by German SS-troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS

At the other end of Europe, the Waffen-SS was dealing with the Warsaw
Uprising. Between August and October 1944, the Dirlewanger Brigade
(recruited from criminals and the mentally ill throughout Germany) and
the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade RONA were sent to Warsaw with the explicit
goal of putting down the uprising. During the battle, the Dirlewanger
behaved atrociously, raping, looting and killing citizens of Warsaw
regardless of whether they belonged to the Polish resistance or not;
the unit commander SS-Oberführer Oskar Dirlewanger himself encouraged
their excesses.

The unit's behavior was reportedly so bestial and indiscriminate that
Himmler was forced to send a battalion of SS military police for the
sole purpose of ensuring the Dirlewanger convicts did not turn their
aggressions against the leadership of the brigade, or other nearby
German units.[95] At the same time they were encouraged by Himmler to
terrorize freely, take no prisoners, and generally indulge their
perverse tendencies. Favoured tactics of the Dirlewanger men during
the siege reportedly included the ubiquitous gang rape of female
Poles, both women and children; playing "bayonet catch" with live
babies; and torturing captives to death by hacking off their arms,
dousing them with gasoline, and setting them alight to run armless and
flaming down the street.[96][97]

The Dirlewanger brigade committed almost non-stop atrocities during
this period, in particular the four-day Wola massacre. The other unit
Waffen-Sturm-Brigade RONA (made up of ethnic German volunteers from
the occupied regions of the Soviet Union) was tasked with clearing the
Ochota district in Warsaw that was defended by members of the Polish
Underground Home Army.

Their attack was planned for the morning of August 5, but when the
time came, the RONA unit could not be found; after some searching by
the SS military police, members of the unit were found looting
abandoned houses in the rear of the German column. Later, thousands of
Polish civilians were killed by the RONA SS men during the events
known as Ochota massacre; many victims were also raped

The behaviour of the RONA during the battle was an embarrassment even
to the SS, and the alleged rape and murder of two German Strength
Through Joy (Kdf) girls may have played a part in the eventual
execution of the brigade's commander

On Sun, 5 May 2013 06:05:27 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Germans and more recently Muslims.
Providing good reason never to surrender.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message ...

Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.
Location near Malmedy, Belgium
Date December 17, 1944
Attack type Mass murder
Deaths 80 American POWs
Perpetrators 1st SS Panzer Division

The Malmedy massacre was a war crime in which 80 American prisoners of
war were murdered by their German captors during World War II. The
massacre was committed on December 17, 1944, by members of Kampfgruppe
Peiper (part of the 1st SS Panzer Division), a German combat unit,
during the Battle of the Bulge.

Murdered American soldiers at Malmedy on January 14, 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...3-0224a-1-.gif


At the post-war Nuremberg Trials the Waffen-SS was condemned as a
criminal organization due to its essential connection to the Nazi
Party and involvement in war crimes.

1944.jpg
Polish civilians murdered by German SS-troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS

At the other end of Europe, the Waffen-SS was dealing with the Warsaw
Uprising. Between August and October 1944, the Dirlewanger Brigade
(recruited from criminals and the mentally ill throughout Germany) and
the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade RONA were sent to Warsaw with the explicit
goal of putting down the uprising. During the battle, the Dirlewanger
behaved atrociously, raping, looting and killing citizens of Warsaw
regardless of whether they belonged to the Polish resistance or not;
the unit commander SS-Oberführer Oskar Dirlewanger himself encouraged
their excesses.

The unit's behavior was reportedly so bestial and indiscriminate that
Himmler was forced to send a battalion of SS military police for the
sole purpose of ensuring the Dirlewanger convicts did not turn their
aggressions against the leadership of the brigade, or other nearby
German units.[95] At the same time they were encouraged by Himmler to
terrorize freely, take no prisoners, and generally indulge their
perverse tendencies. Favoured tactics of the Dirlewanger men during
the siege reportedly included the ubiquitous gang rape of female
Poles, both women and children; playing "bayonet catch" with live
babies; and torturing captives to death by hacking off their arms,
dousing them with gasoline, and setting them alight to run armless and
flaming down the street.[96][97]

The Dirlewanger brigade committed almost non-stop atrocities during
this period, in particular the four-day Wola massacre. The other unit
Waffen-Sturm-Brigade RONA (made up of ethnic German volunteers from
the occupied regions of the Soviet Union) was tasked with clearing the
Ochota district in Warsaw that was defended by members of the Polish
Underground Home Army.

Their attack was planned for the morning of August 5, but when the
time came, the RONA unit could not be found; after some searching by
the SS military police, members of the unit were found looting
abandoned houses in the rear of the German column. Later, thousands of
Polish civilians were killed by the RONA SS men during the events
known as Ochota massacre; many victims were also raped

The behaviour of the RONA during the battle was an embarrassment even
to the SS, and the alleged rape and murder of two German Strength
Through Joy (Kdf) girls may have played a part in the eventual
execution of the brigade's commander

Indeed. There were Waffen SS units that did in fact commit vile
crimes. But not all Waffen SS units did.

The closer to Himmler they were..the more likely they would commit
such crimes.

As has been noted...not all Waffen SS troups were Nazis. In fact..the
majority were not.


"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it
very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having
left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as
best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame
us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an
honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)