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Ive been doing the online tests for the Technician exam. Of the 6
times Ive taken the sample exams...I passed it 5 times. Of the 4 times
Ive taken the online sample General exam..Ive passed it twice.

This without any study.

I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)

I picked up a Kenwood TS-530SE transiever in the last load of Stuff
from that mini-storage clean out along with a couple boxes of other
radio Stuff. The radio turns on..and gives me a hiss out of the
onboard speaker..but I dont get any signals on the old long wire
antenna Ive got up..so there are Issues. Ive downloaded the
schematics..gonna make me think and at my age...relearning board
repair is gonna really hurt. Got all the gear for checking it out
though..Tektronics scope, Tektronics freq counter, Tektronics VOM etc
etc...mil surp RF generator...all the proper Stuff. Everything except
a dummy load.

Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

Btw..Im up to my ass in scopes if anybody needs a couple or 3. I
think Ive got 5-6 up on the shelf and I certainly dont need that many.
One for the service truck, one for the bench, a spare and Im good.

Gunner

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1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
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I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
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de WA4ZEG (inactive)

CW still ought to be required.
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I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)


de WA4ZEG (inactive)

CW still ought to be required.
Lloyd


I struggled damned hard with CW. I really had a hard time with it. The
fellow who did my test for General..I truely believe gave me brownie
points to pass the code part of the exam. In fact..I didnt have a
General, but a Conditional, as I was 250 miles away from a regular
testing place as I recall so was given the exam by one of the Old
Farts who worked with me on theory etc etc.

I was really into RTTY when I got my ticket. Cant be much of that
anymore. Not with a Mod 15 printer and rolls of paper G

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
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I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)


de WA4ZEG (inactive)

CW still ought to be required.
Lloyd


I struggled damned hard with CW. I really had a hard time with it. The
fellow who did my test for General..I truely believe gave me brownie
points to pass the code part of the exam. In fact..I didnt have a
General, but a Conditional, as I was 250 miles away from a regular
testing place as I recall so was given the exam by one of the Old
Farts who worked with me on theory etc etc.

I was really into RTTY when I got my ticket. Cant be much of that
anymore. Not with a Mod 15 printer and rolls of paper G


The closest I can come to that is remembering that I used a 300 baud
modem when I started computing. I remember dot matrix printers, too.
(I'll bet half the folks alive now don't.)

I recently bought a BaoFeng UV-5R portable radio and am in the process
of learning about HAM. A buddy is going to help. (Terry, the same
guy in San Marcos to whom I referred you years ago, who's doing the
automating of some small SoCal manufacturing firms.) Anyway, until I
take the Technician's test, I'm in listening and learning mode.

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On 03/20/2013 11:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I remember dot matrix printers, too.
(I'll bet half the folks alive now don't.)


I still have a couple of them; first one was a Toshiba. I remember the
manual (which I still have around here somewhere) went into great detail
referring to the various escape codes that could be used to manually
operate the printer over a serial/parallel interface, from printing
actual letters to just pushing one pin out.

They don't do stuff like that anymore.

Jon



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On 03/20/2013 11:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I remember dot matrix printers, too.
(I'll bet half the folks alive now don't.)


I still have a couple of them; first one was a Toshiba. I remember
the manual (which I still have around here somewhere) went into
great detail referring to the various escape codes that could be
used to manually operate the printer over a serial/parallel
interface, from printing actual letters to just pushing one pin out.

They don't do stuff like that anymore.

Jon


In the mid 80's I worked on the dot matrix inventors' next project, a
four color ink jet printer that could build up a 3D image from its
molten plastic ink.
http://dots.physics.orst.edu/tactile/node9.html

http://www.ballisticfluid.com/aboutUS.html
"It wasn't long before someone had the idea to build three dimensional
(3D) models using the same idea."

The idea was obvious to us from the ink stalagmites that accumulated
on test stands and prototypes, but for several reasons that machine
was very restricted in the height it could build up -accurately- and
we were too busy trying to make it reliable to waste effort on most of
the crazy things we knew the plastic-spraying ink jets could do. Plus
the ink had a low melting point and poor properties other than looking
good on the page.
jsw


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On 03/20/2013 11:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I remember dot matrix printers, too.
(I'll bet half the folks alive now don't.)


I still have a couple of them; first one was a Toshiba. I remember the
manual (which I still have around here somewhere) went into great detail
referring to the various escape codes that could be used to manually
operate the printer over a serial/parallel interface, from printing
actual letters to just pushing one pin out.

They don't do stuff like that anymore.


Hell, even the simple printers nowadays have more power than main
computers did way back then.

I ordered a $59 pack of 4 toner bottles/chips to rebuild my Samsung
CLP-600N color laser cartridges. I much prefer its output to my old
dot matrix. It's also somewhat quieter and faster. g


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[ ... ]

I was really into RTTY when I got my ticket. Cant be much of that
anymore. Not with a Mod 15 printer and rolls of paper G


I seem to remember that there were programs for the cheap
appliance computers (e.g. the Commodore VIC-20 or something like that)
which would display and send RTTY when connected to a receiver and
transmitter. A lot more portable (and quieter) than a Mod-15. :-)

The closest I can come to that is remembering that I used a 300 baud
modem when I started computing. I remember dot matrix printers, too.
(I'll bet half the folks alive now don't.)


I certainly remember them -- various speeds and sizes of them,
too. ;_)

I recently bought a BaoFeng UV-5R portable radio and am in the process
of learning about HAM. A buddy is going to help. (Terry, the same
guy in San Marcos to whom I referred you years ago, who's doing the
automating of some small SoCal manufacturing firms.) Anyway, until I
take the Technician's test, I'm in listening and learning mode.


Good Luck,
DoN.

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* * * * I seem to remember that there were programs for the cheap
appliance computers (e.g. the Commodore VIC-20 or something like that)
which would display and send RTTY when connected to a receiver and
transmitter. *A lot more portable (and quieter) than a Mod-15. :-)


There are programs to use a PC to send and receive morse code that are
freeware. There is also hardware with a microprocessor that decode
morse code for about $30 from China.


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[ ... ]

I was really into RTTY when I got my ticket. Cant be much of that
anymore. Not with a Mod 15 printer and rolls of paper G


I seem to remember that there were programs for the cheap
appliance computers (e.g. the Commodore VIC-20 or something like that)
which would display and send RTTY when connected to a receiver and
transmitter. A lot more portable (and quieter) than a Mod-15. :-)


Indeed. And didnt need a polar relay. G

The closest I can come to that is remembering that I used a 300 baud
modem when I started computing. I remember dot matrix printers, too.
(I'll bet half the folks alive now don't.)


I certainly remember them -- various speeds and sizes of them,
too. ;_)

I recently bought a BaoFeng UV-5R portable radio and am in the process
of learning about HAM. A buddy is going to help. (Terry, the same
guy in San Marcos to whom I referred you years ago, who's doing the
automating of some small SoCal manufacturing firms.) Anyway, until I
take the Technician's test, I'm in listening and learning mode.


Good Luck,
DoN.

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1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?


An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.

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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
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An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.

Lloyd



And it wont radiate RF?


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
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3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
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An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.

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And it wont radiate RF?




Antenna isn't quite tuned up right.
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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.

Lloyd



And it wont radiate RF?




Antenna isn't quite tuned up right.


??

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1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
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And it wont radiate RF?


Some, but you can put it in a bucket of shielding to stop that (mostly).
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And it wont radiate RF?


Some, but you can put it in a bucket of shielding to stop that (mostly).
Lloyd


and that bucket of sheilding would be?

Now you may understand why I want a real honest to goodness dummy
load.

Gunner

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and that bucket of sheilding would be?

Now you may understand why I want a real honest to goodness dummy
load.


Aw, C'mon Gunner! You 'passed' the test, right? You know what a Faraday
cage is, right?

Put it all in a steel bucket with some grounding straps for the lid to
bond to the body, and leave a little hole so you can see the lamp glow as
you load into it!

Passed? Have they not included the basics, anymore?
G
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And it wont radiate RF?


Some, but you can put it in a bucket of shielding to stop that
(mostly).
Lloyd


and that bucket of sheilding would be?

Now you may understand why I want a real honest to goodness dummy
load.

Gunner


Traditionally it's a gallon paint can, with the RF connector in the
center of the lid. The oil-filled Heathkit 'cantenna' was good for a
kilowatt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cantenna.JPG

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And it wont radiate RF?

Some, but you can put it in a bucket of shielding to stop that (mostly).
Lloyd


and that bucket of sheilding would be?

Now you may understand why I want a real honest to goodness dummy
load.

Gunner

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1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie



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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?


An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.


Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.

The higher the frequency, the more that lamp will differ from
the proper impedance -- with all those little curly Tungsten wires as
the filament. But the can will at least keep the RF from radiating.
The main risk with a poor impedance match would be damage to the final
of the transmitter.

Anyone ever have a Heathkit "Cantenna"? Was it an array of
carbon resistors in oil, or an incandescent lamp? The former would be
more constant impedance, at least.

Good Luck,
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Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.


You're about two days late with that suggestion, Don G.

Remember the Heath "CanTenna"?

At up to 10M, the light bulb works as an OK load, if not completely
'tunable' Add one small air-wound coil and a few puffs of capacitance,
and it can tune darned well.

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Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.


You're about two days late with that suggestion, Don G.


I must have missed that.

Remember the Heath "CanTenna"?


Certainly -- that was what I thought I was describing -- and I
thought that I actually mentioned thst by name and/or company, too.
(Perhaps in another branch of the thread.)

At up to 10M, the light bulb works as an OK load, if not completely
'tunable' Add one small air-wound coil and a few puffs of capacitance,
and it can tune darned well.


O.K. I was wondering what frequency range a light bulb would
work for.

Enjoy,
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An interesting story my dad had was when he was designing Radar systems
at White Sands - they used dummy array antennas until the unit checked out.

Dad used 1000 watt light bulbs - 100 at a time. He ran through 1000 a
week for about 6 weeks. Then they went to the large antenna.

The funny part was the purchasing officer kept ordering the bulbs!

They caught that pretty quick! - Thankfully they used the bulbs on the
base already.

I'll have to check out the large 'sun gun' lamps I have - see what
resistance they have cold. I don't have a holder for hot.

They are 10" long as I recall. I'll try to see what they have.

Martin

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Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.


You're about two days late with that suggestion, Don G.


I must have missed that.

Remember the Heath "CanTenna"?


Certainly -- that was what I thought I was describing -- and I
thought that I actually mentioned thst by name and/or company, too.
(Perhaps in another branch of the thread.)

At up to 10M, the light bulb works as an OK load, if not completely
'tunable' Add one small air-wound coil and a few puffs of capacitance,
and it can tune darned well.


O.K. I was wondering what frequency range a light bulb would
work for.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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O.K. I was wondering what frequency range a light bulb would
work for.

Enjoy,
DoN.


http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/K5LA...riesVol-15.htm
Check it with an SWR meter.

If anyone has a spare Network Analyzer they don't need I could measure
the frequency response of a bulb.
http://www.dennlec.com/store/product...products_id=33

I sent several million dollars worth of them plus a 13" South Bend
lathe to government surplus, but couldn't qualify to bid on any of it.
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On 2013-03-20, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Gunner fired this volley in
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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?


An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.


Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.

The higher the frequency, the more that lamp will differ from
the proper impedance -- with all those little curly Tungsten wires as
the filament. But the can will at least keep the RF from radiating.
The main risk with a poor impedance match would be damage to the final
of the transmitter.

Anyone ever have a Heathkit "Cantenna"? Was it an array of
carbon resistors in oil, or an incandescent lamp? The former would be
more constant impedance, at least.



Don, they used a 200 watt 50 ohm carborundum non-inductive oil
treated resistor immersed in transformer oil.
http://www.orcadxcc.org/content/cantenna_va7jw.pdf


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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2013-03-20, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Gunner fired this volley in
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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.


Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.

The higher the frequency, the more that lamp will differ from
the proper impedance -- with all those little curly Tungsten wires as
the filament. But the can will at least keep the RF from radiating.
The main risk with a poor impedance match would be damage to the final
of the transmitter.

Anyone ever have a Heathkit "Cantenna"? Was it an array of
carbon resistors in oil, or an incandescent lamp? The former would be
more constant impedance, at least.



Don, they used a 200 watt 50 ohm carborundum non-inductive oil
treated resistor immersed in transformer oil.
http://www.orcadxcc.org/content/cantenna_va7jw.pdf


Can anyone suggest an inexpensive radio for Technician class?

Ive been told that the Icom 706, the Yaesu 817 and 857s would fit my
needs..but they are more ..in some cases...far far more expensive than
I can afford this year.

The TS-520SE that I have has some "issues" that Im going to need to
resolve over time, as Im not a board level radio tech and its going to
be a learning experience...shrug

Tube radio would be fine, but something a bit more easy to operate
would be far better for me. IE..digital freq display etc etc or the
ability to add one...

Thanks for pondering on it.

Gunner

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On 2013-03-20, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?


An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.


* * * * Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.


* * * * The higher the frequency, the more that lamp will differ from
the proper impedance -- with all those little curly Tungsten wires as
the filament. *But the can will at least keep the RF from radiating.
The main risk with a poor impedance match would be damage to the final
of the transmitter.


* * * * Anyone ever have a Heathkit "Cantenna"? *Was it an array of
carbon resistors in oil, or an incandescent lamp? *The former would be
more constant impedance, at least.


* Don, they used a 200 watt 50 ohm carborundum non-inductive oil
treated resistor immersed in transformer oil.
http://www.orcadxcc.org/content/cantenna_va7jw.pdf


Can anyone suggest an inexpensive radio for Technician class?

Ive been told that the Icom 706, the Yaesu 817 and 857s would fit my
needs..but they are more ..in some cases...far far more expensive than
I can afford this year.

The TS-520SE that I have has some "issues" that Im going to need to
resolve over time, as Im not a board level radio tech and its going to
be a learning experience...shrug

Tube radio would be fine, but something a bit more easy to operate
would be far better for me. IE..digital freq display etc etc or the
ability to add one...

Thanks for pondering on it.

Gunner


Suggest you buy a CB radio. It's much closer to your level of
intelligence.
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 02:51:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2013-03-20, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Gunner fired this volley in
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Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

An incandescent lamp isn't perfect, but works.

Even better -- mount it in a gallon paint can, with a good RF
connector in the lid -- and oil inside to carry the heat from the lamp
to the walls of the can for cooling.

The higher the frequency, the more that lamp will differ from
the proper impedance -- with all those little curly Tungsten wires as
the filament. But the can will at least keep the RF from radiating.
The main risk with a poor impedance match would be damage to the final
of the transmitter.

Anyone ever have a Heathkit "Cantenna"? Was it an array of
carbon resistors in oil, or an incandescent lamp? The former would be
more constant impedance, at least.



Don, they used a 200 watt 50 ohm carborundum non-inductive oil
treated resistor immersed in transformer oil.
http://www.orcadxcc.org/content/cantenna_va7jw.pdf


Can anyone suggest an inexpensive radio for Technician class?

Ive been told that the Icom 706, the Yaesu 817 and 857s would fit my
needs..but they are more ..in some cases...far far more expensive than
I can afford this year.

The TS-520SE that I have has some "issues" that Im going to need to
resolve over time, as Im not a board level radio tech and its going to
be a learning experience...shrug



What kinds of issues?


Tube radio would be fine, but something a bit more easy to operate
would be far better for me. IE..digital freq display etc etc or the
ability to add one...

Thanks for pondering on it.




What bands are you interested in? 160/80/40/20/15/10/6/2 Meters
432/1296 MHz 10.5 GHz? Modes? CW/AM/SSB/FM/ATV? Power level?


There are a bunch of news:rec.radio.amateur newsgroups that would
have a lot more help for you. Just be ready to kill file a couple dozen
ass hats.


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Cool !!!


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


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On 3/20/2013 3:30 AM, Gunner wrote:
Ive been doing the online tests for the Technician exam. Of the 6
times Ive taken the sample exams...I passed it 5 times. Of the 4 times
Ive taken the online sample General exam..Ive passed it twice.

This without any study.

I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)

I picked up a Kenwood TS-530SE transiever in the last load of Stuff
from that mini-storage clean out along with a couple boxes of other
radio Stuff. The radio turns on..and gives me a hiss out of the
onboard speaker..but I dont get any signals on the old long wire
antenna Ive got up..so there are Issues. Ive downloaded the
schematics..gonna make me think and at my age...relearning board
repair is gonna really hurt. Got all the gear for checking it out
though..Tektronics scope, Tektronics freq counter, Tektronics VOM etc
etc...mil surp RF generator...all the proper Stuff. Everything except
a dummy load.

Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

Btw..Im up to my ass in scopes if anybody needs a couple or 3. I
think Ive got 5-6 up on the shelf and I certainly dont need that many.
One for the service truck, one for the bench, a spare and Im good.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


Sure, KD7HB.
And I just passed the amateur extra test in November at age 73, so you
can sure do it!

Paul
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On 3/20/2013 3:30 AM, Gunner wrote:
Ive been doing the online tests for the Technician exam. Of the 6
times Ive taken the sample exams...I passed it 5 times. Of the 4 times
Ive taken the online sample General exam..Ive passed it twice.

This without any study.

I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)

I picked up a Kenwood TS-530SE transiever in the last load of Stuff
from that mini-storage clean out along with a couple boxes of other
radio Stuff. The radio turns on..and gives me a hiss out of the
onboard speaker..but I dont get any signals on the old long wire
antenna Ive got up..so there are Issues. Ive downloaded the
schematics..gonna make me think and at my age...relearning board
repair is gonna really hurt. Got all the gear for checking it out
though..Tektronics scope, Tektronics freq counter, Tektronics VOM etc
etc...mil surp RF generator...all the proper Stuff. Everything except
a dummy load.

Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

Btw..Im up to my ass in scopes if anybody needs a couple or 3. I
think Ive got 5-6 up on the shelf and I certainly dont need that many.
One for the service truck, one for the bench, a spare and Im good.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


I haven't taken a ham test in 40 years, but, as I recall, it's a lot
like a driver's license test. Not much about whether you can drive
a car, but mostly about knowing the rules.

The electronics is trivial for anybody with any experience at all.
But it's useful to practice the questions so you can interpret what they
really ask.

As for the dummy load, what are you gonna do with it.
If all you want to do is see power, a light bulb works fine.
If your emissions are in the band and used under the terms of
your license, you're good to go. Just pick a dead spot in the band
and keep it short.

The complexity goes up from there. Go to any ham swap meet and you'll
probably find a boatload of dummy loads for sale. Just take the meter
and
check the resistance. Hams are people... and people can't be trusted
to tell you that it's blown.

There are zillions of nice resistors mounted on big heat sinks used
as circulator loads and in cellular base stations. Those show up
at swap meets in the 100W range for $15 or so. Nice, small, no oil,
excellent high frequency characteristics. But take the meter.

Ham radio is just like any hobby. If you're impatient, you'll spend
a lot of money. If you troll the swap meets and garage sales, you
can pick up most stuff dirt cheap. Be patient. Go to ham club meetings.

Ham radio is mostly dead for reasons stated elsewhere in the thread.
Every damn QSO is about the weather, the rig, then nothing left to
talk about. Interweb news groups are much more entertaining these days.

You'll have more fun talking to locals on the uhf frequencies.


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On 3/20/2013 3:30 AM, Gunner wrote:
Ive been doing the online tests for the Technician exam. Of the 6
times Ive taken the sample exams...I passed it 5 times. Of the 4 times
Ive taken the online sample General exam..Ive passed it twice.

This without any study.

I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)

I picked up a Kenwood TS-530SE transiever in the last load of Stuff
from that mini-storage clean out along with a couple boxes of other
radio Stuff. The radio turns on..and gives me a hiss out of the
onboard speaker..but I dont get any signals on the old long wire
antenna Ive got up..so there are Issues. Ive downloaded the
schematics..gonna make me think and at my age...relearning board
repair is gonna really hurt. Got all the gear for checking it out
though..Tektronics scope, Tektronics freq counter, Tektronics VOM etc
etc...mil surp RF generator...all the proper Stuff. Everything except
a dummy load.

Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

Btw..Im up to my ass in scopes if anybody needs a couple or 3. I
think Ive got 5-6 up on the shelf and I certainly dont need that many.
One for the service truck, one for the bench, a spare and Im good.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


I haven't taken a ham test in 40 years, but, as I recall, it's a lot
like a driver's license test. Not much about whether you can drive
a car, but mostly about knowing the rules.

The electronics is trivial for anybody with any experience at all.
But it's useful to practice the questions so you can interpret what they
really ask.

As for the dummy load, what are you gonna do with it.
If all you want to do is see power, a light bulb works fine.
If your emissions are in the band and used under the terms of
your license, you're good to go. Just pick a dead spot in the band
and keep it short.

The complexity goes up from there. Go to any ham swap meet and you'll
probably find a boatload of dummy loads for sale. Just take the meter
and
check the resistance. Hams are people... and people can't be trusted
to tell you that it's blown.

There are zillions of nice resistors mounted on big heat sinks used
as circulator loads and in cellular base stations. Those show up
at swap meets in the 100W range for $15 or so. Nice, small, no oil,
excellent high frequency characteristics. But take the meter.

Ham radio is just like any hobby. If you're impatient, you'll spend
a lot of money. If you troll the swap meets and garage sales, you
can pick up most stuff dirt cheap. Be patient. Go to ham club meetings.

Ham radio is mostly dead for reasons stated elsewhere in the thread.
Every damn QSO is about the weather, the rig, then nothing left to
talk about. Interweb news groups are much more entertaining these days.

You'll have more fun talking to locals on the uhf frequencies.


http://www.eham.net/articles/23108

The ARRL site indicates its been a banner couple years as well.

Thanks for the info btw. Not a lot of hams in my neck of the woods,
though there are some. I just need to find them.


Gunner

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Thanks for the info btw. Not a lot of hams in my neck of the woods,
though there are some. I just need to find them.
Gunner


No ham flea markets like we have?
http://near-fest.com/

http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit

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Thanks for the info btw. Not a lot of hams in my neck of the woods,
though there are some. I just need to find them.
Gunner


No ham flea markets like we have?
http://near-fest.com/

http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit

jsw


Probably one or two down in the LA area..but thats 150 miles away.

Ill check into it and maybe stay over on a Saturday if I ever get some
money.

Out here in the West...we are a bit more spread out than on the East
Coast.....VBG...just a bit more...

Thanks

Gunner



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Remember the local 'react' or disaster group are Hams.
They set up when earthquakes take out cell towers and break
land lines and microwave lines.

Ham club and react teams are common here in Texas.

Martin

On 3/21/2013 5:28 PM, GunnerAsch wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:50:11 -0700, mike wrote:

On 3/20/2013 3:30 AM, Gunner wrote:
Ive been doing the online tests for the Technician exam. Of the 6
times Ive taken the sample exams...I passed it 5 times. Of the 4 times
Ive taken the online sample General exam..Ive passed it twice.

This without any study.

I was a ham nearly 40 yrs ago..and we didnt have FM or packet radio
etc etc and there was a CW portion (Thank Crom its gone!)

I picked up a Kenwood TS-530SE transiever in the last load of Stuff
from that mini-storage clean out along with a couple boxes of other
radio Stuff. The radio turns on..and gives me a hiss out of the
onboard speaker..but I dont get any signals on the old long wire
antenna Ive got up..so there are Issues. Ive downloaded the
schematics..gonna make me think and at my age...relearning board
repair is gonna really hurt. Got all the gear for checking it out
though..Tektronics scope, Tektronics freq counter, Tektronics VOM etc
etc...mil surp RF generator...all the proper Stuff. Everything except
a dummy load.

Anyone got a 50 ohm, 100 watt dummy load collecting dust I can
swap/trade for?

Btw..Im up to my ass in scopes if anybody needs a couple or 3. I
think Ive got 5-6 up on the shelf and I certainly dont need that many.
One for the service truck, one for the bench, a spare and Im good.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


I haven't taken a ham test in 40 years, but, as I recall, it's a lot
like a driver's license test. Not much about whether you can drive
a car, but mostly about knowing the rules.

The electronics is trivial for anybody with any experience at all.
But it's useful to practice the questions so you can interpret what they
really ask.

As for the dummy load, what are you gonna do with it.
If all you want to do is see power, a light bulb works fine.
If your emissions are in the band and used under the terms of
your license, you're good to go. Just pick a dead spot in the band
and keep it short.

The complexity goes up from there. Go to any ham swap meet and you'll
probably find a boatload of dummy loads for sale. Just take the meter
and
check the resistance. Hams are people... and people can't be trusted
to tell you that it's blown.

There are zillions of nice resistors mounted on big heat sinks used
as circulator loads and in cellular base stations. Those show up
at swap meets in the 100W range for $15 or so. Nice, small, no oil,
excellent high frequency characteristics. But take the meter.

Ham radio is just like any hobby. If you're impatient, you'll spend
a lot of money. If you troll the swap meets and garage sales, you
can pick up most stuff dirt cheap. Be patient. Go to ham club meetings.

Ham radio is mostly dead for reasons stated elsewhere in the thread.
Every damn QSO is about the weather, the rig, then nothing left to
talk about. Interweb news groups are much more entertaining these days.

You'll have more fun talking to locals on the uhf frequencies.


http://www.eham.net/articles/23108

The ARRL site indicates its been a banner couple years as well.

Thanks for the info btw. Not a lot of hams in my neck of the woods,
though there are some. I just need to find them.


Gunner

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Thanks for the info btw. Not a lot of hams in my neck of the woods,
though there are some. I just need to find them.



http://www.arrl.org/hamfests/search
(select California, hit search)

4 or 5 scheduled this year. Maybe see what
is scheduled in Aridzona, or Nevada.



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Thanks for the info btw. *Not a lot of hams in my neck of the woods,
though there are some. I just need to find them.

Gunner


QRZ has a database of all the hams. You can search by county. Or you
can just put in CA, and it will return a list of all the counties in
Calif. with how many hams are in each county.


Dan
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