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What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
It appears that 22 caliber ammo no longer seems to exist.
There is not even enough for someone to grab and horde as it appears... If it was still being manufactured as before, each store should still be able to get the same amount in as they used to... What explains this? |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
"Cross-Slide" wrote in message ... It appears that 22 caliber ammo no longer seems to exist. There is not even enough for someone to grab and horde as it appears... If it was still being manufactured as before, each store should still be able to get the same amount in as they used to... What explains this? http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/stag...onversion-kit/ |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/5/2013 12:33 PM, Cross-Slide wrote:
It appears that 22 caliber ammo no longer seems to exist. There is not even enough for someone to grab and horde as it appears... If it was still being manufactured as before, each store should still be able to get the same amount in as they used to... What explains this? As a friend said to me: There are probably a lot more .22 pistols and rifles out there than all other calibers combined..more demand since there are more of them... made sense to me. The anti-zombie hordes are running out to buy, buy, buy and there are a gadzillion of them. -- http://tinyurl.com/My-Official-Response Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:34:31 -0500, Joe AutoDrill
wrote: On 3/5/2013 12:33 PM, Cross-Slide wrote: It appears that 22 caliber ammo no longer seems to exist. There is not even enough for someone to grab and horde as it appears... If it was still being manufactured as before, each store should still be able to get the same amount in as they used to... What explains this? As a friend said to me: There are probably a lot more .22 pistols and rifles out there than all other calibers combined..more demand since there are more of them... made sense to me. The anti-zombie hordes are running out to buy, buy, buy and there are a gadzillion of them. I spoke with Dick's Sporting Goods HQ; they don't know why they aren't getting enough supply. They would not let me talk to their corporate buyers, who certainly know. So I talked to one of the plant managers at Remington's ammo plant in Arkansas. She says that they've been running three shifts for six weeks, pumping out more .22 rimfire than ever before, and they've put on extra people and expanded machine capacity. Her guess is that there's rationing going on at the wholesale distribution level, trying to fairly distribute their stock to an expanding demand from retailers, but she hasn't tracked that down herself. She knows they have gotten desperate calls from some Wal-Mart outlets. She (Leanne) says to hang tight, they expect the shortage to ease up soon. The holdup sure isn't from their end. -- Ed Huntress |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
My question. From what I read on the net, the makers are going full speed,
turning out all they can. I wonder if the American Panic is buying faster than they can manufacture? I've heard that the stores aren't getting any restock of 22, so maybe the companies are making the more expensive shells instead? Horde: N. Large group of animals or people. Hoard: N. or V. Storing or keeping items for the future. Usually implies storing more than what is needed. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Cross-Slide" wrote in message ... It appears that 22 caliber ammo no longer seems to exist. There is not even enough for someone to grab and horde as it appears... If it was still being manufactured as before, each store should still be able to get the same amount in as they used to... What explains this? |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several
bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
"Ignoramus24658" wrote in message ... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 2013-03-06, Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus24658" wrote in message ... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Long enough for me, if the world falls apart, there will still be things to buy and resell. There will not be enough "wildlife" for everyone to hunt for 6 years. Something will have to change. I have about 5 bricks of it, if I recall correctly, you are right on the spot. i |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:44:26 -0600, Ignoramus24658
wrote: On 2013-03-06, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message ... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Long enough for me, if the world falls apart, there will still be things to buy and resell. There will not be enough "wildlife" for everyone to hunt for 6 years. Something will have to change. How's your stomach for long pork, Ig? Some yummy zombie stew, anyone? cannibalistic grin I have about 5 bricks of it, if I recall correctly, you are right on the spot. I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so I'd be snaring and fishing. -- If more sane people were armed, crazy people would get off fewer shots. Support the 2nd Amendment |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Larry Jaques wrote: I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so I'd be snaring and fishing. Are you up for the gig? |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:58:52 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so I'd be snaring and fishing. Are you up for the gig? I haven't gigged frogs since I left Arkansas in '66. We never ate them because the swamp on the base had an overflow pipe and the sewage frequently came out of it. We'd be walking around (age 12ish) and seeing lots of old condoms, turds, and such. We knew better. g My favorite was a green three-pronger. I whittled a broomstick to fit and tied a piece of nylon cord to it for retrieval. It worked quite well. We had to watch out for water moccasins there, too. The things we had the most fun on the AFB we 1) Following the DDT truck during fogging of all the streets around the base lake. 2) Giggin' frogs. 3) Sailing my friend's styrofoam sailboat. 4) Watching the Apes (air police) shoot the 10ga shotguns at the nests of water moccasins and other snakes. Oh, and I almost forgot: 5) Swinging from the rubber trees. There were thin poplars or such beneath the earthen dam which got plenty of water. We'd climb up 25-30' and hang out over the branches while grasping the thin top of the tree trunk. It would swing us down and we'd jump and go up and over, 180-degrees to the other side. Thank CROM one never broke. We'd have crushed both legs and probably our pelvic bone and some vertebra. -- If more sane people were armed, crazy people would get off fewer shots. Support the 2nd Amendment |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:58:52 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: ? ?Larry Jaques wrote: ?? ?? I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so ?? I'd be snaring and fishing. ? ? ? Are you up for the gig? I haven't gigged frogs since I left Arkansas in '66. We never ate them because the swamp on the base had an overflow pipe and the sewage frequently came out of it. We'd be walking around (age 12ish) and seeing lots of old condoms, turds, and such. We knew better. ?g? My favorite was a green three-pronger. I whittled a broomstick to fit and tied a piece of nylon cord to it for retrieval. It worked quite well. We had to watch out for water moccasins there, too. The things we had the most fun on the AFB we 1) Following the DDT truck during fogging of all the streets around the base lake. 2) Giggin' frogs. 3) Sailing my friend's styrofoam sailboat. 4) Watching the Apes (air police) shoot the 10ga shotguns at the nests of water moccasins and other snakes. Oh, and I almost forgot: 5) Swinging from the rubber trees. There were thin poplars or such beneath the earthen dam which got plenty of water. We'd climb up 25-30' and hang out over the branches while grasping the thin top of the tree trunk. It would swing us down and we'd jump and go up and over, 180-degrees to the other side. Thank CROM one never broke. We'd have crushed both legs and probably our pelvic bone and some vertebra. Are you sure you never landed on your head? At least once? ;-) |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Ignoramus24658 wrote:
Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i Let's see I go to the range at least once a month. Plus with eliminating the musk rats, rats, the odd crow or 30. I can easily go through 3-4 bricks, a couple boxes each of .380, 223, 308 and a few rounds of .50 Plus 2-3 boxes of shot shells (unless it's during club skeet nights, then I will run through extra) Plus - Deer/Bear season - will take slugs, 30-30, and 308 ammo. (+ all the trappings for the black powder guns) Turkey season- 10 gauge steel shot Small game - .22, .410, .223, more shot shells in 20 and 12. -- Steve W. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote:
"Ignoramus24658" wrote in message m... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. -- Ed Huntress |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message om... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:24:26 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:58:52 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: ? ?Larry Jaques wrote: ?? ?? I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so ?? I'd be snaring and fishing. ? ? ? Are you up for the gig? I haven't gigged frogs since I left Arkansas in '66. We never ate them because the swamp on the base had an overflow pipe and the sewage frequently came out of it. We'd be walking around (age 12ish) and seeing lots of old condoms, turds, and such. We knew better. ?g? My favorite was a green three-pronger. I whittled a broomstick to fit and tied a piece of nylon cord to it for retrieval. It worked quite well. We had to watch out for water moccasins there, too. The things we had the most fun on the AFB we 1) Following the DDT truck during fogging of all the streets around the base lake. 2) Giggin' frogs. 3) Sailing my friend's styrofoam sailboat. 4) Watching the Apes (air police) shoot the 10ga shotguns at the nests of water moccasins and other snakes. Oh, and I almost forgot: 5) Swinging from the rubber trees. There were thin poplars or such beneath the earthen dam which got plenty of water. We'd climb up 25-30' and hang out over the branches while grasping the thin top of the tree trunk. It would swing us down and we'd jump and go up and over, 180-degrees to the other side. Thank CROM one never broke. We'd have crushed both legs and probably our pelvic bone and some vertebra. Are you sure you never landed on your head? At least once? ;-) I never said that. I took nose dives out of my highchair as a kid, and have stitches in both eyebrows to prove it. g Then there was the time I was chasing a local girl and she ducked under the tubafore porch railing and I didn't quite see it. It hit me square in the forehead and my body straightened out on the lawn with my skull connecting with the concrete after the rail had stopped my forward progress. THAT hurt. But 'tis the price we pay to chase wimmens. -- If more sane people were armed, crazy people would get off fewer shots. Support the 2nd Amendment |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:13:15 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost
wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message news:cZadneyFWKopBqvMnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews. com... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:58:47 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:13:15 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message news:cZadneyFWKopBqvMnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews .com... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. Food, cars, and ammo all free for the taking, and nothing but slow moving targets in the way. The weather is usually nice and the roads are mostly clear. Women are frequently half dressed and grateful for all the rescuing, if you know what I mean. Car batteries remain charged, and vehicles stay clean and undamaged despite being clawed repeatedly by zombies. Even the grass stays mowed! Yeah they've lost a few characters but they were mostly the whiney ones. From survivalists' point of view things are damned good and could be perfect if only that stupid ****ing kid with the hat would start doing what he's told. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? Ed Huntress That would be "Survivor" creator and SAS veteran Mark Burnett's autobiography. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Roma's+man+won+IRA+respect.-a0180701772 |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:33:43 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost
wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:58:47 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:13:15 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message news:cZadneyFWKopBqvMnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganew s.com... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. Food, cars, and ammo all free for the taking, and nothing but slow moving targets in the way. The weather is usually nice and the roads are mostly clear. Women are frequently half dressed and grateful for all the rescuing, if you know what I mean. Car batteries remain charged, and vehicles stay clean and undamaged despite being clawed repeatedly by zombies. Even the grass stays mowed! Yeah they've lost a few characters but they were mostly the whiney ones. From survivalists' point of view things are damned good and could be perfect if only that stupid ****ing kid with the hat would start doing what he's told. Gee, so that's what I'm missing. I don't watch that kind of TV. This is the absolute truth: I have never watched ANY zombie, vampire, or reality show -- really, no reality shows -- except for one episode of "Duck Dynasty." I heard S.E. Cupp talk about her appearance on the show, so I had to see what it was like. It's phony as hell, but hilarious. -- Ed Huntress |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/6/2013 11:58 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) For the movie crowd, try "The Book of Eli" for a good idea of what it might be like... |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/6/2013 12:33 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. Food, cars, and ammo all free for the taking, and nothing but slow moving targets in the way. The weather is usually nice and the roads are mostly clear. Women are frequently half dressed and grateful for all the rescuing, if you know what I mean. Car batteries remain charged, and vehicles stay clean and undamaged despite being clawed repeatedly by zombies. Even the grass stays mowed! Yeah they've lost a few characters but they were mostly the whiney ones. From survivalists' point of view things are damned good and could be perfect if only that stupid ****ing kid with the hat would start doing what he's told. As for women being grateful for rescue, stock up on toilet paper and tampons. You'll be king! |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
"Richard" wrote in message
m... On 3/6/2013 12:33 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. As for women being grateful for rescue, stock up on toilet paper and tampons. You'll be king! And all your customers will have PMS and a gun. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:04:13 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:33:43 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:58:47 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:13:15 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message news:cZadneyFWKopBqvMnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@gigane ws.com... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. Food, cars, and ammo all free for the taking, and nothing but slow moving targets in the way. The weather is usually nice and the roads are mostly clear. Women are frequently half dressed and grateful for all the rescuing, if you know what I mean. Car batteries remain charged, and vehicles stay clean and undamaged despite being clawed repeatedly by zombies. Even the grass stays mowed! Yeah they've lost a few characters but they were mostly the whiney ones. From survivalists' point of view things are damned good and could be perfect if only that stupid ****ing kid with the hat would start doing what he's told. Gee, so that's what I'm missing. I don't watch that kind of TV. This is the absolute truth: I have never watched ANY zombie, vampire, or reality show -- really, no reality shows -- except for one episode of "Duck Dynasty." I heard S.E. Cupp talk about her appearance on the show, so I had to see what it was like. It's phony as hell, but hilarious. I'm hoping for an avalanche of posters one upping each other to say how little TV they watch, on account of it being too mindless for their sophisticated tastes. :) This is as good a time as any to give my highest recommendation to this show. http://twitchfilm.com/2012/10/fantas...hellfjord.html Subtitled, but worth it to see for example, a repulsive lunatic explain how he got his hot mail order bride cheap during a potato famine in Northern Finland. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:24:26 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ? wrote: ? ?Larry Jaques wrote: ?? ?? On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:58:52 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ?? ? wrote: ?? ?? ? ?? ?Larry Jaques wrote: ?? ?? ?? ?? I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so ?? ?? I'd be snaring and fishing. ?? ? ?? ? ?? ? Are you up for the gig? ?? ?? I haven't gigged frogs since I left Arkansas in '66. We never ate ?? them because the swamp on the base had an overflow pipe and the sewage ?? frequently came out of it. We'd be walking around (age 12ish) and ?? seeing lots of old condoms, turds, and such. We knew better. ?g? ?? ?? My favorite was a green three-pronger. I whittled a broomstick to fit ?? and tied a piece of nylon cord to it for retrieval. It worked quite ?? well. We had to watch out for water moccasins there, too. ?? ?? The things we had the most fun on the AFB we ?? ?? 1) Following the DDT truck during fogging of all the streets around ?? the base lake. ?? 2) Giggin' frogs. ?? 3) Sailing my friend's styrofoam sailboat. ?? 4) Watching the Apes (air police) shoot the 10ga shotguns at the nests ?? of water moccasins and other snakes. ?? Oh, and I almost forgot: ?? 5) Swinging from the rubber trees. There were thin poplars or such ?? beneath the earthen dam which got plenty of water. We'd climb up ?? 25-30' and hang out over the branches while grasping the thin top of ?? the tree trunk. It would swing us down and we'd jump and go up and ?? over, 180-degrees to the other side. Thank CROM one never broke. We'd ?? have crushed both legs and probably our pelvic bone and some vertebra. ? ? ? Are you sure you never landed on your head? At least once? ;-) I never said that. I took nose dives out of my highchair as a kid, and have stitches in both eyebrows to prove it. ?g? Then there was the time I was chasing a local girl and she ducked under the tubafore porch railing and I didn't quite see it. It hit me square in the forehead and my body straightened out on the lawn with my skull connecting with the concrete after the rail had stopped my forward progress. THAT hurt. But 'tis the price we pay to chase wimmens. Are you sure she didn't swing that tubafore at you, and you just think you ran into one? Quality women are never cheap. ;-) |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:42:40 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
On 3/6/2013 11:58 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) For the movie crowd, try "The Book of Eli" for a good idea of what it might be like... Noi need for a fictional film, about a guy finding the grateful HOT babe, and never seems to get hit by all the flying bullets... etc.... Try this Real World documentary about the hobo world, about as real world as you will get to the WROL EOLAWKI scenario.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4yzlsRPrU |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:57:29 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost
wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:04:13 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:33:43 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:58:47 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:13:15 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message news:cZadneyFWKopBqvMnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@gigan ews.com... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. Food, cars, and ammo all free for the taking, and nothing but slow moving targets in the way. The weather is usually nice and the roads are mostly clear. Women are frequently half dressed and grateful for all the rescuing, if you know what I mean. Car batteries remain charged, and vehicles stay clean and undamaged despite being clawed repeatedly by zombies. Even the grass stays mowed! Yeah they've lost a few characters but they were mostly the whiney ones. From survivalists' point of view things are damned good and could be perfect if only that stupid ****ing kid with the hat would start doing what he's told. Gee, so that's what I'm missing. I don't watch that kind of TV. This is the absolute truth: I have never watched ANY zombie, vampire, or reality show -- really, no reality shows -- except for one episode of "Duck Dynasty." I heard S.E. Cupp talk about her appearance on the show, so I had to see what it was like. It's phony as hell, but hilarious. I'm hoping for an avalanche of posters one upping each other to say how little TV they watch, on account of it being too mindless for their sophisticated tastes. :) This is as good a time as any to give my highest recommendation to this show. http://twitchfilm.com/2012/10/fantas...hellfjord.html Subtitled, but worth it to see for example, a repulsive lunatic explain how he got his hot mail order bride cheap during a potato famine in Northern Finland. Oh my God, that looks funny. I hope I get time to watch it. -- Ed Huntress |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/6/2013 3:56 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message m... On 3/6/2013 12:33 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. As for women being grateful for rescue, stock up on toilet paper and tampons. You'll be king! And all your customers will have PMS and a gun. Yep. ANd more than willing to protect "civilization". |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/6/2013 4:23 PM, Cross-Slide wrote:
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:42:40 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: On 3/6/2013 11:58 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) For the movie crowd, try "The Book of Eli" for a good idea of what it might be like... Noi need for a fictional film, about a guy finding the grateful HOT babe, and never seems to get hit by all the flying bullets... etc.... Try this Real World documentary about the hobo world, about as real world as you will get to the WROL EOLAWKI scenario.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4yzlsRPrU I guess you didn't notice that Eli was blind? |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Ignoramus24658 wrote in
: Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. My wife, youngest daughter and I are all active competitive target shooters. We go through at least 10,000 a year easy. Doug White |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
"Richard" wrote in message
m... On 3/6/2013 3:56 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: wrote in message m... On 3/6/2013 12:33 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. As for women being grateful for rescue, stock up on toilet paper and tampons. You'll be king! And all your customers will have PMS and a gun. Yep. ANd more than willing to protect "civilization". I read in a camping book that women would be more willing to answer the Call of the Wild if they didn't fear the Call of Nature. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:54:08 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
On 3/6/2013 4:23 PM, Cross-Slide wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:42:40 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: On 3/6/2013 11:58 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) For the movie crowd, try "The Book of Eli" for a good idea of what it might be like... Noi need for a fictional film, about a guy finding the grateful HOT babe, and never seems to get hit by all the flying bullets... etc.... Try this Real World documentary about the hobo world, about as real world as you will get to the WROL EOLAWKI scenario.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4yzlsRPrU I guess you didn't notice that Eli was blind? I most Certainly did..... And it makes my point 10X, didn't need to give anything away about Eli, or need to use that to make the point.... The movies make the WROL EOTWAWKI scenarios look WAY more glamorous, and "Fun" than they are likely to be.. I offered a more likely glimpse into the WROL world. Scavenging, fighting, forming alliances, getting killed.. And in the FTRA world, they are scavenging from a functional, living economy, and form only only a fraction of the population... If you plunge the WHOLE Population into that scavenge mode, it will not be anything as glamorous, functional, or rewarding as the world depicted in the movie "The Book of Eli" I suspect you didn't follow the link I offered. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/6/2013 7:05 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message m... On 3/6/2013 3:56 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: wrote in message m... On 3/6/2013 12:33 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. As for women being grateful for rescue, stock up on toilet paper and tampons. You'll be king! And all your customers will have PMS and a gun. Yep. ANd more than willing to protect "civilization". I read in a camping book that women would be more willing to answer the Call of the Wild if they didn't fear the Call of Nature. That the first thing we point out to ladies when they come aboard for a sail. Here is the head. Here is how you operate it. After that they are perfectly comfortable. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:08:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:24:26 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ? wrote: ? ?Larry Jaques wrote: ?? ?? On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:58:52 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ?? ? wrote: ?? ?? ? ?? ?Larry Jaques wrote: ?? ?? ?? ?? I have most of one left. But I'm near a river and several creeks, so ?? ?? I'd be snaring and fishing. ?? ? ?? ? ?? ? Are you up for the gig? ?? ?? I haven't gigged frogs since I left Arkansas in '66. We never ate ?? them because the swamp on the base had an overflow pipe and the sewage ?? frequently came out of it. We'd be walking around (age 12ish) and ?? seeing lots of old condoms, turds, and such. We knew better. ?g? ?? ?? My favorite was a green three-pronger. I whittled a broomstick to fit ?? and tied a piece of nylon cord to it for retrieval. It worked quite ?? well. We had to watch out for water moccasins there, too. ?? ?? The things we had the most fun on the AFB we ?? ?? 1) Following the DDT truck during fogging of all the streets around ?? the base lake. ?? 2) Giggin' frogs. ?? 3) Sailing my friend's styrofoam sailboat. ?? 4) Watching the Apes (air police) shoot the 10ga shotguns at the nests ?? of water moccasins and other snakes. ?? Oh, and I almost forgot: ?? 5) Swinging from the rubber trees. There were thin poplars or such ?? beneath the earthen dam which got plenty of water. We'd climb up ?? 25-30' and hang out over the branches while grasping the thin top of ?? the tree trunk. It would swing us down and we'd jump and go up and ?? over, 180-degrees to the other side. Thank CROM one never broke. We'd ?? have crushed both legs and probably our pelvic bone and some vertebra. ? ? ? Are you sure you never landed on your head? At least once? ;-) I never said that. I took nose dives out of my highchair as a kid, and have stitches in both eyebrows to prove it. ?g? Then there was the time I was chasing a local girl and she ducked under the tubafore porch railing and I didn't quite see it. It hit me square in the forehead and my body straightened out on the lawn with my skull connecting with the concrete after the rail had stopped my forward progress. THAT hurt. But 'tis the price we pay to chase wimmens. Are you sure she didn't swing that tubafore at you, and you just think you ran into one? Quality women are never cheap. ;-) g She was my sister's best friend's younger sister. I saw her 20 years later and we had some real chemistry together but she was married and she didn't let me play doctor again. I saw her later, after I was sober and she wasn't interested at all. Sest lavvy, wot? -- If more sane people were armed, crazy people would get off fewer shots. Support the 2nd Amendment |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On 3/6/2013 8:06 PM, Cross-Slide wrote:
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:54:08 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: On 3/6/2013 4:23 PM, Cross-Slide wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:42:40 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: On 3/6/2013 11:58 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) For the movie crowd, try "The Book of Eli" for a good idea of what it might be like... Noi need for a fictional film, about a guy finding the grateful HOT babe, and never seems to get hit by all the flying bullets... etc.... Try this Real World documentary about the hobo world, about as real world as you will get to the WROL EOLAWKI scenario.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4yzlsRPrU I guess you didn't notice that Eli was blind? I most Certainly did..... And it makes my point 10X, didn't need to give anything away about Eli, or need to use that to make the point.... The movies make the WROL EOTWAWKI scenarios look WAY more glamorous, and "Fun" than they are likely to be.. I offered a more likely glimpse into the WROL world. Scavenging, fighting, forming alliances, getting killed.. And in the FTRA world, they are scavenging from a functional, living economy, and form only only a fraction of the population... If you plunge the WHOLE Population into that scavenge mode, it will not be anything as glamorous, functional, or rewarding as the world depicted in the movie "The Book of Eli" I suspect you didn't follow the link I offered. Correct, I didn't. But I totally agree with your description. EOTWAWKI, I get. What's WROL? And FTRA? I'm not all that hip, I guess. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:56:23 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Richard" wrote in message om... On 3/6/2013 12:33 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: When I watch The Walking Dead, I can't help think that the survivalists watching actually believe in the scenario. As for women being grateful for rescue, stock up on toilet paper and tampons. You'll be king! And all your customers will have PMS and a gun. 4 points awarded to Jim. -- If more sane people were armed, crazy people would get off fewer shots. Support the 2nd Amendment |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
Lots of grown men shoot .22LR. NBRA or the like - National Bench
shooters use .22LR on a 50 yard line into a 10 target. Varmit hunting small rat like and such are .22LR. 4H shooters use .22LR and Pellet. Lots of folk shoot .22LR. Martin On 3/6/2013 11:13 AM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:12:54 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:23:04 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus24658" wrote in message ... Just wondering how much .22 ammo one really needs. I have several bricks of it, they take small amount of room, and should last my lifetime. i If you shoot once a day for the rest of your lifetime, 5 bricks would last 6.8 years. Just how many bricks do you have, and is that realistically enough to live for very long if your .22 is bringing home a lot of your sustenance, and you shoot more than once a day? Steve If there were some kind of disaster, what makes you think there would be any "sustenance" to shoot? We have lots of "sustenance" running around now because very few people depend on shooting it. Even here in NJ, where we have a deer herd of roughly 160,000 and roughly 3,000 black bears,, our total deer population in 1900 was fewer than 100 animals and the bear population was 0. If you have a disaster and no place to buy food, you won't find a muskrat to shoot within six months. That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:03:09 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
On 3/6/2013 8:06 PM, Cross-Slide wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:54:08 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: On 3/6/2013 4:23 PM, Cross-Slide wrote: On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:42:40 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: On 3/6/2013 11:58 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: That whole survivalist shtick is a fantasy. The survivalist mentality seems to appeal most strongly to those who are struggling to keep their heads above water in normal times. Yet for some strange reason they imagine doing better than average if only they were forced into a more difficult lifestyle. Maybe they could avoid all the waiting and blustering by cutting off a few toes and moving into a dugout in the woods. :) A realistic version of "Survivor," with bullet wounds, people killing each other over a road-killed rat, deaths by exposure and gangreen? I've only watched one reality show in my life, but I'd watch one that was that real. d8-) For the movie crowd, try "The Book of Eli" for a good idea of what it might be like... Noi need for a fictional film, about a guy finding the grateful HOT babe, and never seems to get hit by all the flying bullets... etc.... Try this Real World documentary about the hobo world, about as real world as you will get to the WROL EOLAWKI scenario.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4yzlsRPrU I guess you didn't notice that Eli was blind? I most Certainly did..... And it makes my point 10X, didn't need to give anything away about Eli, or need to use that to make the point.... The movies make the WROL EOTWAWKI scenarios look WAY more glamorous, and "Fun" than they are likely to be.. I offered a more likely glimpse into the WROL world. Scavenging, fighting, forming alliances, getting killed.. And in the FTRA world, they are scavenging from a functional, living economy, and form only only a fraction of the population... If you plunge the WHOLE Population into that scavenge mode, it will not be anything as glamorous, functional, or rewarding as the world depicted in the movie "The Book of Eli" I suspect you didn't follow the link I offered. Correct, I didn't. But I totally agree with your description. EOTWAWKI, I get. What's WROL? And FTRA? I'm not all that hip, I guess. WROL Without Rule Of Law The video is about the FTRA, (Freight Train Riders of America) Basically a Gang of train riders... The subject of the murder investigation, and if you do watch the video, you can learn about how violent, dangerous, and tight of a clan they can be... And that, as I mentioned is a tiny minority, operating just outside of a (relatively) functioning society. Take the FTRA and the characters interviewed in the story, and multiply by 40X in a SHTF situation.... No one is going to enjoy this mess.... Not something to fantasize about at all. Back to my OP. Even if everyone is hoarding ammo, the stores should be getting it in, and then it gets grabbed off of the shelves.... It does not look like they are even getting it into the stores, so anyone COULD grab it. Something appears to be happening to it, between the factory, and the wholesalers. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
I don't have a lot of contact with people who shoot. But, the sense I get is
that gun stores simply havn't gotten any resupply of 22 RF ammo, in quite a while. Perhaps you are right, in that the ammo isn't making it to the stores. I've read at least one ammo web site, they say they are manufaturing full speed around the clock. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Cross-Slide" wrote in message ... Back to my OP. Even if everyone is hoarding ammo, the stores should be getting it in, and then it gets grabbed off of the shelves.... It does not look like they are even getting it into the stores, so anyone COULD grab it. Something appears to be happening to it, between the factory, and the wholesalers. |
What's up with 22 caliber ammo?
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... I don't have a lot of contact with people who shoot. But, the sense I get is that gun stores simply havn't gotten any resupply of 22 RF ammo, in quite a while. Perhaps you are right, in that the ammo isn't making it to the stores. I've read at least one ammo web site, they say they are manufaturing full speed around the clock. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Cross-Slide" wrote in message ... Back to my OP. Even if everyone is hoarding ammo, the stores should be getting it in, and then it gets grabbed off of the shelves.... It does not look like they are even getting it into the stores, so anyone COULD grab it. Something appears to be happening to it, between the factory, and the wholesalers. If this is really what is happening, it sounds like distributers have figured out from recent experience with other calibers that a shortage and the resulting frenzy is good for business. Seems like they are fabricating the .22 shortage by holding onto stock. Once the frenzy peaks, they will start selling again at inflated prices. They know those who are prone to frenzy will continue hoarding more than ever because "you never know when there will be another shortage". People who are driven by fear are easily manipulated by others. Be cautious of those who try to make you fearful. |
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