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overkill February 3rd 13 10:18 PM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to connect to
lowering valve port

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Bob La Londe[_7_] February 4th 13 12:16 AM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
"overkill" wrote in
message oups.com...
to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to connect to
lowering valve port


How about a simpler solution. Maybe just a long handle? Perhaps with a T
handle to make operating the valve at a distance easier?

You said "completely" covered though so I'm not sure. The thing is it's a
simple valve built into the body of the jack, so setting up a remote valve
is not going to be super easy.



Cross-Slide February 4th 13 07:21 PM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:16:13 PM UTC-6, Bob La Londe wrote:
"overkill" wrote in

message oups.com...

to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to connect to


lowering valve port




How about a simpler solution. Maybe just a long handle? Perhaps with a T

handle to make operating the valve at a distance easier?



You said "completely" covered though so I'm not sure. The thing is it's a

simple valve built into the body of the jack, so setting up a remote valve

is not going to be super easy.


Super easy. Drill and tap for the fittings, and run hoses to and from the remote valve.

Now is that safe??????????????????????

Jim Wilkins[_2_] February 4th 13 11:02 PM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
"Cross-Slide" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:16:13 PM UTC-6, Bob La Londe wrote:
"overkill"
wrote in
message
oups.com...

to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to
connect to
lowering valve port

How about a simpler solution. Maybe just a long handle? Perhaps
with a T
handle to make operating the valve at a distance easier?
You said "completely" covered though so I'm not sure. The thing is
it's a
simple valve built into the body of the jack, so setting up a
remote valve
is not going to be super easy.

Super easy. Drill and tap for the fittings, and run hoses to and
from the remote valve.
Now is that safe??????????????????????


A separate hand pump and cylinder may turn out to be easier:
http://www.amazon.com/Porta-Power-Hy.../dp/B0025C4ZN4
jsw



[email protected] February 5th 13 01:03 AM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:02:49 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Cross-Slide" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:16:13 PM UTC-6, Bob La Londe wrote:
"overkill"
wrote in
message
oups.com...

to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to
connect to
lowering valve port
How about a simpler solution. Maybe just a long handle? Perhaps
with a T
handle to make operating the valve at a distance easier?
You said "completely" covered though so I'm not sure. The thing is
it's a
simple valve built into the body of the jack, so setting up a
remote valve
is not going to be super easy.

Super easy. Drill and tap for the fittings, and run hoses to and
from the remote valve.
Now is that safe??????????????????????


A separate hand pump and cylinder may turn out to be easier:
http://www.amazon.com/Porta-Power-Hy.../dp/B0025C4ZN4
jsw

I have taken apart and modified a couple jacks to work upside down.
Doing that I have seen how the valving works. It would be much easier
to do what Jim suggests. The little valve you turn on the jack is in a
chamber with a hole at the bottom, a hole near the bottom, and a hole
with a seal at the top that the valve stem goes through. Turning the
valve stem either puts pressure on, or relieves the pressure on, a
ball bearing located at the bottom of the chamber. This ball seals the
hole at the bottom. When the ball comes away from the bottom oil flows
through the hole at the bottom and through the hole near the bottom
and into the oil reservoir. There really is not much room to add more
plumbing for yet another valve.
Eric

Cross-Slide February 5th 13 02:00 AM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
On Monday, February 4, 2013 7:03:47 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:02:49 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"

wrote:



"Cross-Slide" wrote in message


...


On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:16:13 PM UTC-6, Bob La Londe wrote:


"overkill"


wrote in


message


oups.com...




to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to


connect to


lowering valve port


How about a simpler solution. Maybe just a long handle? Perhaps


with a T


handle to make operating the valve at a distance easier?


You said "completely" covered though so I'm not sure. The thing is


it's a


simple valve built into the body of the jack, so setting up a


remote valve


is not going to be super easy.


Super easy. Drill and tap for the fittings, and run hoses to and


from the remote valve.


Now is that safe??????????????????????




A separate hand pump and cylinder may turn out to be easier:


http://www.amazon.com/Porta-Power-Hy.../dp/B0025C4ZN4


jsw




I have taken apart and modified a couple jacks to work upside down.

Doing that I have seen how the valving works. It would be much easier

to do what Jim suggests. The little valve you turn on the jack is in a

chamber with a hole at the bottom, a hole near the bottom, and a hole

with a seal at the top that the valve stem goes through. Turning the

valve stem either puts pressure on, or relieves the pressure on, a

ball bearing located at the bottom of the chamber. This ball seals the

hole at the bottom. When the ball comes away from the bottom oil flows

through the hole at the bottom and through the hole near the bottom

and into the oil reservoir. There really is not much room to add more

plumbing for yet another valve.

Eric


Not much room right around the valve...
You need to tap into the lift chamber and the reservoir.
Those two areas have more than one spot to get at.
The remote pump is likely a more elegant solution.

Bob La Londe[_7_] February 6th 13 02:59 AM

what about making remote valve for lowering
 
"Cross-Slide" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 4, 2013 7:03:47 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:02:49 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"

wrote:



"Cross-Slide" wrote in message


...


On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:16:13 PM UTC-6, Bob La Londe wrote:


"overkill"


wrote in


message


oups.com...




to lower bottle jack when completely covered. Is there a way to


connect to


lowering valve port


How about a simpler solution. Maybe just a long handle? Perhaps


with a T


handle to make operating the valve at a distance easier?


You said "completely" covered though so I'm not sure. The thing is


it's a


simple valve built into the body of the jack, so setting up a


remote valve


is not going to be super easy.


Super easy. Drill and tap for the fittings, and run hoses to and


from the remote valve.


Now is that safe??????????????????????




A separate hand pump and cylinder may turn out to be easier:


http://www.amazon.com/Porta-Power-Hy.../dp/B0025C4ZN4


jsw




I have taken apart and modified a couple jacks to work upside down.

Doing that I have seen how the valving works. It would be much easier

to do what Jim suggests. The little valve you turn on the jack is in a

chamber with a hole at the bottom, a hole near the bottom, and a hole

with a seal at the top that the valve stem goes through. Turning the

valve stem either puts pressure on, or relieves the pressure on, a

ball bearing located at the bottom of the chamber. This ball seals the

hole at the bottom. When the ball comes away from the bottom oil flows

through the hole at the bottom and through the hole near the bottom

and into the oil reservoir. There really is not much room to add more

plumbing for yet another valve.

Eric


Not much room right around the valve...
You need to tap into the lift chamber and the reservoir.
Those two areas have more than one spot to get at.
The remote pump is likely a more elegant solution.


A porta power might be the easiest off the shelf solution depending on the
application. Doh! I should have thought of that. I have one, and I have
used it like that. LOL.





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