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Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every
time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary |
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On 1/2/2013 11:43 AM, wrote:
Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Motorcycle chain wax? -- http://tinyurl.com/My-Official-Response Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
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... Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Does this help? http://www.ehow.com/how_12166779_cle...ail-shirt.html |
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On Jan 2, 11:43*am, wrote:
Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary You need to keep oxygen away from the chains. And there are lots ways to do that. Put them in a air tight container or put something on the chain. I got a gallon of liquid floor wax at a estate sale and use that. Parafin in paint thinner would work about the same. Harbor Freight sell vacuum storage bags, which would work well, But expensive when not on sale. So maybe ziploc bags from Walmart. They would work fine if you do not move the bags. They are too flimsy except for sitting on a shelf. Dan |
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Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary |
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... On Jan 2, 11:43 am, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. gary -You need to keep oxygen away from the chains. And there are lots ways -to do that. Put them in a air tight container or put something on the -chain. My collection of tire and logging chains hangs on the posts of an open-sided pole shed, a foot in from the roof edge. A hanging tarp that I can see over usually keeps splash and wind-blown rain off them. What little rust they accumulate in a year wears off in minutes of use. More valuable bare steel implements like axes are in a yard shed, which is enough to keep the fog from reaching them. They rarely show rust on the sharpened edges. jsw |
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On Jan 2, 10:43*am, wrote:
Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Google "VCI bags" as another option |
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"Denis G." wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 10:43 am, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Google "VCI bags" as another option -------------------------------------------------- Thanks, it is tid bits of information like this that I did not know before that is the reason I still pay attention to this group. |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner
wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... -- Cheers, John B. |
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"John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. |
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Black oxide on the chain does well. It replaces the red-orange rust.
The poor man's way is to put the chain under water and let the chain start to absorb the oxygen out of the water - but instead of orange it turns out to be black. It won't go orange. I did this with some 1/2" thick numbers for my wife - desk paper weight. They came out black as coal. I then dryed them out and clear coated them. They were desk ware. The other item is Phosphoric acid (green in color) - this is used as a soaking bath - (don't get it on you) - but once the clean iron/steel gets in it - it starts to turn gray. Don't leave it in for more than some hours - watch it. It can find weak points and eat through. This plates phosphorus on the outside and prevents rust. I'd do one of the various ways pointed out and then store them in large ammo boxes (rubber seals) to prevent further rusting and kinda holds the chain from bumping around and knocking off a surface treatment. Martin On 1/2/2013 10:43 AM, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:12:11 -0600, Martin Eastburn
wrote: Black oxide on the chain does well. It replaces the red-orange rust. The poor man's way is to put the chain under water and let the chain start to absorb the oxygen out of the water - but instead of orange it turns out to be black. It won't go orange. I did this with some 1/2" thick numbers for my wife - desk paper weight. They came out black as coal. I then dryed them out and clear coated them. They were desk ware. The other item is Phosphoric acid (green in color) - this is used as a soaking bath - (don't get it on you) - but once the clean iron/steel gets in it - it starts to turn gray. Don't leave it in for more than some hours - watch it. It can find weak points and eat through. This plates phosphorus on the outside and prevents rust. I'd do one of the various ways pointed out and then store them in large ammo boxes (rubber seals) to prevent further rusting and kinda holds the chain from bumping around and knocking off a surface treatment. Martin On 1/2/2013 10:43 AM, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Do NOT use acid on chains - hydrogen embrittlement makes the links like glass. I cleaned some bicycle chain by soaking overnight in metal=prep - which is a fairly dilute phosphoric acid solution. Chain snapped like glass first time I put some pressure on the pedals. |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 08:04:07 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... Ayup. Sometimes the high desert get snow. Sometimes..a pretty fair amount. http://cdn.calisphere.org/data/13030...ID-1.36.43.jpg Grin http://media.bakersfieldnow.com/imag...ffic_sign1.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/harshlight/3294934174/ http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist07/sync/i7/012011/snow1.jpg http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist07/sync/i7.../grapepic1.jpg http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ka...92_600x338.jpg http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/kg...22_600x338.jpg This year http://www.avnewstodayonline.com/zz_...12_WINTER.html The blurb is rather typical...wild fire mixed with snow and lightening. Grin Pending Snow Storm Cancels Red Flag Warning By Fran Paolinelli ANTELOPE VALLEY - The National Weather Service Sunday night had issued a red flag warning indicating the presence of wildfire conditions in mountain, forest and valley areas of the Southland. However, by 9 a.m. Monday, NWS had cancelled the warning because weather conditions were not what they had expected. Instead the NWS is predicting a cold storm, which will bring rain and snow in some areas of the Southland Wednesday and Thursday along with winds gusting to 45 miles per hour. There is also the possibility of a thunderstorm Thursday. Snow on the Grapevine (I-5 at Gorman) and other mountain roads could make driving difficult late Wednesday and early Thursday, according to the NWS forecasters. Snow levels will fall to 4,500 to 5,000 feet Wednesday night, and to near 3,500 feet by Thursday morning. Light to moderate rain and mountain snow are expected Wednesday night, with rain and snow showers diminishing through the day Thursday, according to NWS. The approaching storm is expected to produce up to a quarter-inch of rain in the deserts, between a quarter-inch and three quarters of an inch along the coast and in the valleys, and between three-quarters and one-and-a-half inches in the mountains, according to the NWS." Keep in mind that its the Serria Nevada mountains to the east..and the Tehacapis to the west and us in the middle of the two. So we occasionally get "interesting" weather. It doesnt generally hang around for more than a couple days..but we have had a few winters where it stayed for over a week. Ive seen it snow..and the next day be 90F. http://media.bakersfieldnow.com/imag...field_snow.jpg http://freepages.history.rootsweb.an...nty/snow15.jpg http://www.capturekerncounty.com/pho...40_display.jpg 1999 was a "big" snow year..I had maybe 6" in the front yard and it was mostly gone by the next day. But because we are in a valley..with high mountains on both sides...we do get a fair amount of water when it rains. Flash floods are very common in many places. In about 1977-78...we had a wet wet winter..and the Central Valley flooded. a thousand square miles or more... of farm land under water http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_...f ornia_flood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central...8California%29 Most lowlands of the Central Valley are prone to flooding, especially in the old Tulare Lake, Buena Vista Lake, and Kern Lake beds. The Kings, Kaweah, Tule and Kern rivers originally flowed into these seasonal lakes, which would expand each spring to flood large parts of the southern San Joaquin Valley. Due to the construction of farms, towns and infrastructure in these lakebeds while preventing them from flooding with levee systems, the risk of floods damaging properties increased greatly. Major public works projects beginning in the 1930s sought to reduce the amount of snowmelt flooding by the building of large dams. In 2003, it was determined that Sacramento had both the least protection against and nearly the highest risk of flooding. Congress then granted a $220 million loan for upgrades in Sacramento County.[22] Other counties in the valley that face flooding often are Yuba, Stanislaus, and San Joaquin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulare_Lake Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:12:11 -0600, Martin Eastburn
wrote: The other item is Phosphoric acid (green in color) - this is used as a soaking bath - (don't get it on you) - but once the clean iron/steel gets in it - it starts to turn gray. Don't leave it in for more than some hours - watch it. It can find weak points and eat through. This plates phosphorus on the outside and prevents rust. Poor mans Parkerizing. I'd do one of the various ways pointed out and then store them in large ammo boxes (rubber seals) to prevent further rusting and kinda holds the chain from bumping around and knocking off a surface treatment. Martin 50 cal ammo cans are ideal for storing tire chains. On big trucks..use 20mm cans, steel or plastic Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. G Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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Gunner wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. Why would you want to get within 25 foot of a frothing liberal who needs pulled out of a ditch? ;-) |
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On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:30:19 PM UTC-8, Cydrome Leader wrote:
wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. .... I've dunked chains in a bucket of melted canning wax. You have to leave them in a while as they freeze up the wax when you first toss them in ... Yep, that works great. Bicycle drive chains, too. An easy application method is to heat the chains, and wipe 'em down with a wax-impregnated rag (the hot metal gets a tenacious film of wax, that freezes solid as it cools). I mix in a little beeswax or cheese wax to make paraffin wax stickier. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" on Thu, 03 Jan 2013
12:20:57 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Gunner wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. Why would you want to get within 25 foot of a frothing liberal who needs pulled out of a ditch? ;-) I suspect that Gunner would only offer to help normal, or normal appearing, people. Raving loons, or frothy liberalth - in the words of the Old Philosopher "Stay away. Stay very far away." "This is the chain of command. It is the chain I beat you with until you follow my commands." -- pyotr filipivich Question for the gun Control advocates, "Do you agree with this statement?" "I would rather have a society without guns, even if it means that people cannot defend themselves against murder (with other weapons), rape, robbery, and assault. I would rather make everyone defenseless than have to endure the mass shootings that occasionally occur. If that means that many more people, (particularly the old, the weak, and the infirm) are subjected to these violent crimes, then so be it. They'll just have to suffer more. I do claim the power to dictate whether or not others are able to defend themselves." |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 10:14:00 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I suspect that Gunner would only offer to help normal, or normal appearing, people. Arf arf. How the **** would either of you (assuming you aren't the same ****wit) know what a normal person looks like? Gunner for example thinks it's normal to have a roof plugged with cat****. And to spend his life on the Internet using the cat**** for an excuse for not installing a stove. As opposed to getting off his ass and solving the problem. Odds are that you're equally helpless and equally too abnormal to realize how obvious it is. |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:20:57 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gunner wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. Why would you want to get within 25 foot of a frothing liberal who needs pulled out of a ditch? ;-) Think 10' tree branch and something to hook to the bumper of the truck to lift with. VBG The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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Gunner wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Why would you want to get within 25 foot of a frothing liberal who needs pulled out of a ditch? ;-) Think 10' tree branch and something to hook to the bumper of the truck to lift with. It's more fun to use a blue wrench to remove the connecting metal that holds the front end from the trunk. ;-) |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:29:13 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gunner wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Why would you want to get within 25 foot of a frothing liberal who needs pulled out of a ditch? ;-) Think 10' tree branch and something to hook to the bumper of the truck to lift with. It's more fun to use a blue wrench to remove the connecting metal that holds the front end from the trunk. ;-) I was suggesting hanging a leftwinger by the neck using the chain..and slowly pulling the vehicle forwards to lift them up..up..up towards the heavens! Ever try to lift a fat guy with a chain tossed around a tree limb? It cant be easy. Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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Gunner wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:29:13 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Why would you want to get within 25 foot of a frothing liberal who needs pulled out of a ditch? ;-) Think 10' tree branch and something to hook to the bumper of the truck to lift with. It's more fun to use a blue wrench to remove the connecting metal that holds the front end from the trunk. ;-) I was suggesting hanging a leftwinger by the neck using the chain..and slowly pulling the vehicle forwards to lift them up..up..up towards the heavens! Ever try to lift a fat guy with a chain tossed around a tree limb? It can't be easy. That's what bumper mounted winches were invented for. THEN you cut the car in half so that another fat loser doesn't try to put it back on the road and cause yet another accident. ;-) |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 07:14:39 -0800, Gunner
wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. 100' of 1/4" aircraft cable would be a better carry, methinks. IF you really wanted to pull them out. ;) -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:38:36 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 07:14:39 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. 100' of 1/4" aircraft cable would be a better carry, methinks. IF you really wanted to pull them out. ;) Doesnt have the shock loading capability of 3/8 chain. Seriously. Ive got some 3/8" and 1/2" steel cable as well, but it doesnt fit very well in an ammo can Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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Gunner wrote: Doesnt have the shock loading capability of 3/8 chain. Seriously. Ive got some 3/8" and 1/2" steel cable as well, but it doesnt fit very well in an ammo can I had an entire spool of guy wire the power company abandonded on our property after they dropped it off their truck & split the spool open. Word got out that I had a mile of the stuff, and guys were bugging me for peices so I gave it to them for all their schemes. The best was the guy who told me that he wanted somme for a fence line, then tried to use it on a homemade wrecker. He was lucky he wasn't in the cab when he tried it. |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:38:36 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 07:14:39 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:18:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "John B." wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:01:03 -0800, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:43:51 -0700, wrote: Got a BUNCH of rusty tire chains, that are shedding every time I move them. Got citric acid for derusting, now just need something to keep them from rusting again. Dip application, and preferably won't cover me whith slime every time I have to move 'em into or out of vehicle. thanks gary Hook em up to the rear bumper of your car and drag em a few miles down a gravel road. Works great for cleaning them (and chain) up. Then store em in 50 cal ammo cans with a spritz of LPS-3 before closing them up. Lable the cans for the chain size and voila! Bobs your uncle. Ive kept my tire chains that way for decades. Works very well. Gunner Tire chains in Southern California....... In the high desert...... They have other uses than just traction on ice & snow. But..we use em for traction on ice and snow. The large mountain pass between the Central Valley and the LA basin gets on average about 50,000 big trucks alone per day. Of course but they can be used to pull a car out of a ditch or most other jobs that you need a mediu grade chain for, and it has a built in spare. ;-) True enough. But I carry a 25' chain all the time. 100' of 1/4" aircraft cable would be a better carry, methinks. IF you really wanted to pull them out. ;) Not necessarily. You can wrap a chain without cutting whatever you wrapped in half. How are you going to connect to the load vehicle and the tow vehicle?? Also, 1/4" 7/19 galvanized cable has a break strength of 7000 lbs, stainless 5308 lbs.. So galv is good for 1800, and stainless about 1300 lbs. 1/4 inch GR30 proof coil (commercial chain) is the same strength as the stainless cable - 5200 breaking - 1300 working load limit - not lifting. 5/16" is the same strength as the galvanized cable. If a cable snaps, it is DEADLY. A chain is also dangerous - but it doesn't take much to damp it to safety - just throw a blanket over it or tie a tire to it. Cable is more unpredictable. My choice for recovery is a strap. |
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... Ive got some 3/8" and 1/2" steel cable as well, but it doesnt fit very well in an ammo can Gunner I carry a 2" yellow ratchet strap, which rolls up small and doesn't rattle. The strap is rated for 10,000 Lbs, not sure about the ratchet. I tested it by hooking the end to a tree and pulling my truck into a packed snowbank. The ratchet applies about a thousand pounds of tension. When I have to muscle a vehicle out of a hole by myself I place rocks behind the wheels where they will roll into the hole and retain forward progress. |
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:54:16 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gunner wrote: Doesnt have the shock loading capability of 3/8 chain. Seriously. Ive got some 3/8" and 1/2" steel cable as well, but it doesnt fit very well in an ammo can So learn a smoother pull, suckah. I had an entire spool of guy wire the power company abandonded on our property after they dropped it off their truck & split the spool open. Word got out that I had a mile of the stuff, and guys were bugging me for peices so I gave it to them for all their schemes. The best was the guy who told me that he wanted somme for a fence line, then tried to use it on a homemade wrecker. He was lucky he wasn't in the cab when he tried it. Ooh, crack that whip and take the top of the cab right off, whydoncha? -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. |
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 07:37:43 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . Ive got some 3/8" and 1/2" steel cable as well, but it doesnt fit very well in an ammo can Gunner I carry a 2" yellow ratchet strap, which rolls up small and doesn't rattle. The strap is rated for 10,000 Lbs, not sure about the ratchet. I tested it by hooking the end to a tree and pulling my truck into a packed snowbank. The ratchet applies about a thousand pounds of tension. When I have to muscle a vehicle out of a hole by myself I place rocks behind the wheels where they will roll into the hole and retain forward progress. Ah, good tip. I'll have to remember that. I've filled up the holes with dirt/mud/sand, but it wasn't nearly as effective. I have a 2" yellow tow strap with hardened hooks in the strap bag, but I usually have one of those 2" ratchets in the truck, too. Both HF. The only time I've ever had to be towed out is the week I bought my last truck (my first new vehicle) and my girlfriend and I were touring the CA coast. I drove it all the way down Pismo Beach without problem. But just as I had to turn around at the very end, 4.2 miles from the entrance, a high wave had just washed over the area and I sunk in as soon as I turned the wheel. It had been firm sand up until 45 seconds before. sigh Luckily, a fisherman in a little Datsun 4WD pickup was right there. I had some motorcycle tiedown straps with me so, after breaking them twice, they held the 3rd time. I'd had to let some air out of the tires and dig sand out the front, but we got it in about 15 minutes. A nice guy, he wouldn't even accept money for it. -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. |
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 06:57:19 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 07:37:43 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message . .. Ive got some 3/8" and 1/2" steel cable as well, but it doesnt fit very well in an ammo can Gunner I carry a 2" yellow ratchet strap, which rolls up small and doesn't rattle. The strap is rated for 10,000 Lbs, not sure about the ratchet. I tested it by hooking the end to a tree and pulling my truck into a packed snowbank. The ratchet applies about a thousand pounds of tension. When I have to muscle a vehicle out of a hole by myself I place rocks behind the wheels where they will roll into the hole and retain forward progress. Ah, good tip. I'll have to remember that. I've filled up the holes with dirt/mud/sand, but it wasn't nearly as effective. I have a 2" yellow tow strap with hardened hooks in the strap bag, but I usually have one of those 2" ratchets in the truck, too. Both HF. The only time I've ever had to be towed out is the week I bought my last truck (my first new vehicle) and my girlfriend and I were touring the CA coast. I drove it all the way down Pismo Beach without problem. But just as I had to turn around at the very end, 4.2 miles from the entrance, a high wave had just washed over the area and I sunk in as soon as I turned the wheel. It had been firm sand up until 45 seconds before. sigh Luckily, a fisherman in a little Datsun 4WD pickup was right there. I had some motorcycle tiedown straps with me so, after breaking them twice, they held the 3rd time. I'd had to let some air out of the tires and dig sand out the front, but we got it in about 15 minutes. A nice guy, he wouldn't even accept money for it. Ayup. The yellow straps can be had at any Home Depot for about $14 tax included. I keep 4 of them in a 20mm ammo can mounted to the side of my utility trailer and one under the front seat. Gunner The methodology of the left has always been: 1. Lie 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie |
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