This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen


They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?


tschus
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On 2012-12-18, pyotr filipivich wrote:

This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen


They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?

Yes -- it is!

This is the first time I have heard this -- though I have seen
it in print several times in the past. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen


They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?


tschus
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Are these common or natural logarithms?

Paul

Paul Drahn on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:14:31
-0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?

Are these common or natural logarithms?

Ah, I had not thought of that. Maybe they're a third base - the
"malleable" logarithm. Hmm, more research is obviously needed - think
maybe we can get a grant from the Department of Energy? Saving energy
by being more efficient makes it a green project, yes?

"For the Planet!"

tschus
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On 2012-12-19, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen


They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?

[ ... ]

Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 12/19/2012 5:04 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2012-12-19, Paul wrote:
On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen


They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?

[ ... ]

Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.

Enjoy,
DoN.

Oh! I should have know that!

Paul

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2012-12-19, Paul Drahn ? wrote:
? On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
??
?? This is a Rockwell video
??
?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1?v=...ture=endscreen
??
??
?? They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
?? is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?

[ ... ]

? Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.


Speaking of 'Modular'. Was it you who was looking for some 10P10C
modular plugs a while back? Here are sme for 35 cents each.

http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/MODP10W10Wpr.shtml

"DoN. Nichols" on 20 Dec 2012 01:04:13 GMT
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 2012-12-19, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

This is a Rockwell video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen


They mention "malleable logarithmic casings" - does anyone know if it
is the casing or the logarithms which are malleable?

[ ... ]

Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.

Of course, it is all plain now. A malleable logarithm is based on
a scale from e to pi, using imaginary numbers.


tschus
pyotr


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"DoN. Nichols" on 20 Dec 2012 01:04:13
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typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 2012-12-19, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.

Of course, it is all plain now. A malleable logarithm is based on
a scale from e to pi, using imaginary numbers.
tschus
pyotr

I like math problems I can solve with a mallet.
jsw

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:51:19 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
.. .
"DoN. Nichols" on 20 Dec 2012 01:04:13
GMT
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 2012-12-19, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 12/18/2012 11:03 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:

Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.

Of course, it is all plain now. A malleable logarithm is based on
a scale from e to pi, using imaginary numbers.
tschus
pyotr

I like math problems I can solve with a mallet.
jsw

Well, aren't mallets mode from logs?
ERS

On 2012-12-20, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

[ ... ]
On 2012-12-19, Paul Drahn ? wrote:

? Are these common or natural logarithms?

Neither -- they are modular bifurcated logarithms -- expressed
in octal.

[ ... ]

Speaking of 'Modular'. Was it you who was looking for some 10P10C
modular plugs a while back? Here are sme for 35 cents each.

http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/MODP10W10Wpr.shtml

Thanks. But I *have* at least enough of the plugs, and what I
need is the crimper for them. I thought at first that this was showing
what I needed down in the corner, but a click there doesn't go beyond
8P8C connectors.

Of course -- this was for a sBus card for multiple RS-232C
cables (and the extra pins were only needed for synchronous operation),
and I only have a couple of sBus systems still running -- for the
moment.

Thanks again,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Speaking of 'Modular'. Was it you who was looking for some 10P10C
modular plugs a while back? Here are sme for 35 cents each.

http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/MODP10W10Wpr.shtml

Thanks. But I *have* at least enough of the plugs, and what I
need is the crimper for them. I thought at first that this was showing
what I needed down in the corner, but a click there doesn't go beyond
8P8C connectors.

Of course -- this was for a sBus card for multiple RS-232C
cables (and the extra pins were only needed for synchronous operation),
and I only have a couple of sBus systems still running -- for the
moment.


I'll keep an eye out for one.

On 20 Dec 2012 21:27:07 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:


Speaking of 'Modular'. Was it you who was looking for some 10P10C
modular plugs a while back? Here are sme for 35 cents each.

http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/MODP10W10Wpr.shtml

Thanks. But I *have* at least enough of the plugs, and what I
need is the crimper for them. I thought at first that this was showing
what I needed down in the corner, but a click there doesn't go beyond
8P8C connectors.


http://www.futurlec.com/Tools-Crimping.shtml#HT-N5684



The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On 2012-12-21, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Speaking of 'Modular'. Was it you who was looking for some 10P10C
modular plugs a while back? Here are sme for 35 cents each.

[ ... ]

Thanks. But I *have* at least enough of the plugs, and what I
need is the crimper for them. I thought at first that this was showing
what I needed down in the corner, but a click there doesn't go beyond
8P8C connectors.

[ ... ]

I'll keep an eye out for one.

Thanks,
DoN.

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On 2012-12-22, Gunner wrote:
On 20 Dec 2012 21:27:07 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:


Speaking of 'Modular'. Was it you who was looking for some 10P10C
modular plugs a while back? Here are sme for 35 cents each.

http://www.futurlec.com/Connectors/MODP10W10Wpr.shtml

Thanks. But I *have* at least enough of the plugs, and what I
need is the crimper for them. I thought at first that this was showing
what I needed down in the corner, but a click there doesn't go beyond
8P8C connectors.


http://www.futurlec.com/Tools-Crimping.shtml#HT-N5684

Nope! That one says:


================================================== ====================
Suitable for Crimping RG-45, RG-12, RG-11, 4P4C and 4P2C Plugs
================================================== ====================

Not the 8P8C (eight pins, eight wire connections). The 4P2C,
btw, is used for some phone installations where only the center two pins
of the RG-11 connector design are used. (Unless RG-12 happens to be
10P10C -- nope, it is 6P4C according to another of Fuiturelec's pages.)
The RJ numbers (I don't know why they used "RG" instead of "RJ" in the
above line) don't extend to the 10P10C at the bottom of the first table:

https://www.futurlec.com/ConnModular.shtml

Maybe I could machine up an alternate male half of the dies for
the nice AMP crimper for modular connectors with interchangeable dies.
The body of the connector fits in the female half of the die set just
fine, but the male half only pushes down 8 pins, not the ten needed.

Or -- since I don't really need the outer two pins (I'm not
doing synchronous data connections), I could simply pull the outer two
pin blades before crimping. The manual for the interface card warns
that using a standard 8-pin RG-45 would damage the connectors on the
card.

Thanks,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

Nope! That one says:

================================================== ====================
Suitable for Crimping RG-45, RG-12, RG-11, 4P4C and 4P2C Plugs
================================================== ====================

Not the 8P8C (eight pins, eight wire connections). The 4P2C,
btw, is used for some phone installations where only the center two pins
of the RG-11 connector design are used. (Unless RG-12 happens to be
10P10C -- nope, it is 6P4C according to another of Fuiturelec's pages.)
The RJ numbers (I don't know why they used "RG" instead of "RJ" in the
above line) don't extend to the 10P10C at the bottom of the first table:


Their entire website is lacking in technical quality.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:52:43 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

Nope! That one says:

================================================== ====================
Suitable for Crimping RG-45, RG-12, RG-11, 4P4C and 4P2C Plugs
================================================== ====================

Not the 8P8C (eight pins, eight wire connections). The 4P2C,
btw, is used for some phone installations where only the center two pins
of the RG-11 connector design are used. (Unless RG-12 happens to be
10P10C -- nope, it is 6P4C according to another of Fuiturelec's pages.)
The RJ numbers (I don't know why they used "RG" instead of "RJ" in the
above line) don't extend to the 10P10C at the bottom of the first table:


Their entire website is lacking in technical quality.

Resulting in a much lower per-piece cost. Thank your lucky stars,
Mikey.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:52:43 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

Nope! That one says:

================================================== ====================
Suitable for Crimping RG-45, RG-12, RG-11, 4P4C and 4P2C Plugs
================================================== ====================

Not the 8P8C (eight pins, eight wire connections). The 4P2C,
btw, is used for some phone installations where only the center two pins
of the RG-11 connector design are used. (Unless RG-12 happens to be
10P10C -- nope, it is 6P4C according to another of Fuiturelec's pages.)
The RJ numbers (I don't know why they used "RG" instead of "RJ" in the
above line) don't extend to the 10P10C at the bottom of the first table:


Their entire website is lacking in technical quality.

Resulting in a much lower per-piece cost. Thank your lucky stars,
Mikey.



Not really. Most of what they sell can be found elsewhere at better
prices. Some items are at retail. I was talking about their
descriptions, and edited datasheets not the way the site is designed.