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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
I know you can purchase refrigerent recovery systems. There are videos
online that show people making their own by pumping it with an old refrigerator compressor into an old propane cylinder. I own several old vehicles. It would be nice to be able to reclaim refrgerent rather than vent it when the system has to be taken apart. Would this work? What I dont understand is I thought the oil in an automotive system is carried in the refigerent. If you reclaim the refridgerent using the propane method, does the oil in the system come with it? |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:26:08 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote: I know you can purchase refrigerent recovery systems. There are videos online that show people making their own by pumping it with an old refrigerator compressor into an old propane cylinder. I own several old vehicles. It would be nice to be able to reclaim refrgerent rather than vent it when the system has to be taken apart. Would this work? What I dont understand is I thought the oil in an automotive system is carried in the refigerent. If you reclaim the refridgerent using the propane method, does the oil in the system come with it? It CAN - which is why you make an oil separator to trap the oil and return it to the system. If a system is suddenly opened, it will blow oil out. If it is drained slowly it will not. The oil is carried in the LIQUID refrigerant. As long as it is drwn off as vapour it is quite possible to remove all refrigerant without loosing any oil from the system. |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
On Jun 10, 4:45*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:26:08 -0700 (PDT), stryped wrote: I know you can purchase refrigerent recovery systems. There are videos online that show people making their own by pumping it with an old refrigerator compressor into an old propane cylinder. I own several old vehicles. It would be nice to be able to reclaim refrgerent rather than vent it when the system has to be taken apart. Would this work? What I dont understand is I thought the oil in an automotive system is carried in the refigerent. If you reclaim the refridgerent using the propane method, does the oil in the system come with it? It CAN - which is why you make an oil separator to trap the oil and return it to the system. If a system is suddenly opened, it will blow oil out. If it is drained slowly it will not. The oil is carried in the LIQUID refrigerant. As long as it is drwn off as vapour it is quite possible to remove all refrigerant without loosing any oil from the system. So how would I design this? I have acess to a fairly new compresser from an ice maker of my parents. |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... stryped fired this volley in news:3fd2ede7-4a66-4013- : So how would I design this? Sigh. I'd try paper and pencil first. If that doesn't work a $2000 CAD system should do the trick. Consider gravity in your design. does this guy _ever_ try anything himself before he asks us to do it for him? LLoyd It's taken me a while to realise that Stryped is probably not doing any of the things he asks about here. I reckon he's just playing games with every one. Too many inconsistencies.. |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:04:47 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: stryped fired this volley in news:3fd2ede7-4a66-4013- : So how would I design this? Sigh. I'd try paper and pencil first. If that doesn't work a $2000 CAD system should do the trick. Consider gravity in your design. g does this guy _ever_ try anything himself before he asks us to do it for him? Why would a spammer do that, Lloyd? Plonk him and forget him, please. -- Doctors prescribe medicine of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of which they know nothing. --Francois-Marie Arouet Voltaire, about 250 years ago |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:20:04 -0700 (PDT), stryped
wrote: On Jun 10, 4:45Â*pm, wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:26:08 -0700 (PDT), stryped wrote: I know you can purchase refrigerent recovery systems. There are videos online that show people making their own by pumping it with an old refrigerator compressor into an old propane cylinder. I own several old vehicles. It would be nice to be able to reclaim refrgerent rather than vent it when the system has to be taken apart. Would this work? What I dont understand is I thought the oil in an automotive system is carried in the refigerent. If you reclaim the refridgerent using the propane method, does the oil in the system come with it? It CAN - which is why you make an oil separator to trap the oil and return it to the system. If a system is suddenly opened, it will blow oil out. If it is drained slowly it will not. The oil is carried in the LIQUID refrigerant. As long as it is drwn off as vapour it is quite possible to remove all refrigerant without loosing any oil from the system. So how would I design this? I have acess to a fairly new compresser from an ice maker of my parents. Basically a bulge in the pipe facing up in the direction of gas flow, with a tube extending down into the bulge. as the exit. The oil drops out into the expanded pipe and runs back into the compressor. |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
On Jun 10, 10:15*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:20:04 -0700 (PDT), stryped wrote: On Jun 10, 4:45*pm, wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:26:08 -0700 (PDT), stryped wrote: I know you can purchase refrigerent recovery systems. There are videos online that show people making their own by pumping it with an old refrigerator compressor into an old propane cylinder. I own several old vehicles. It would be nice to be able to reclaim refrgerent rather than vent it when the system has to be taken apart. Would this work? What I dont understand is I thought the oil in an automotive system is carried in the refigerent. If you reclaim the refridgerent using the propane method, does the oil in the system come with it? It CAN - which is why you make an oil separator to trap the oil and return it to the system. If a system is suddenly opened, it will blow oil out. If it is drained slowly it will not. The oil is carried in the LIQUID refrigerant. As long as it is drwn off as vapour it is quite possible to remove all refrigerant without loosing any oil from the system. So how would I design this? I have acess to a fairly new compresser from an ice maker of my parents. *Basically a bulge in the pipe facing up in the direction of gas flow, with a tube extending down into the bulge. as the exit. The oil drops out into the expanded pipe and runs back into the compressor.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Is there a way to only collect the vapor ensureing that this way no oil is in it? All I would like to do is be able to reclaim and reuse the r134 when repairing an auto ac system. |
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refrigerent recovery for autos. General question.
stryped fired this volley in news:3fe9bccb-80df-47e2-
: All I would like to do is be able to reclaim and reuse the r134 when repairing an auto ac system. Yes, I think that would be a good idea for you to do that. In fact, while you're at it, why don't you also reclaim some R410-A from some broken down units, and keep that for repairing your home AC? Lloyd |
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