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Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the Cliff Barnesof r.c.m.
Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing.
The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/12/2012 11:57 AM, George Plimpton wrote:
Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. You are really, really, special. Excellent, superior, great, are words that come to mind when you three are mentioned. Yep, that's what everyone thinks when they see your names. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. You'll have to wait until you go back to sleep and your dreams for you to be what you wish you were. Time to get back to your pipe. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On Apr 13, 7:45*pm, Hawke wrote:
No, not you three. You are really, really, special. Excellent, superior, great, are words that come to mind when you three are mentioned. Yep, that's what everyone thinks when they see your names. Hawke Probably not everyone thinks I am great, but I do manage to post some about metalworking which is more than you do. Dan |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
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Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On Apr 14, 1:40*pm, Hawke wrote:
Make all the excuses you want, Dan. You aren't all that. The three of you want to believe you are in a position to criticize me for every little thing you can find. Be my guest, but understand what that says about you. You guy's undeserved sense of superiority is obvious . All of you. You think I think I'm great? What does that make you when you all seem to think you're so much better? You've all got inflated opinions of yourselves. To hear you guys you're some of life's winners. I'm guessing that's bull****. The three of you are no big deals in your community and haven't got such great resumes. Who's heard of you? One thing is for sure, none of you is in a position to think you're better than me except in your own mind. But then I'm pretty sure you already know that because your trying to one up me all the time only shows how weak and inadequate you boys really are. You make as many mistakes as I do too, Dan. Don't you read your own posts? By the way, if you send me an email you ought to at least let me know how to reply to it so it doesn't come back. Unless you are too fearful of hearing back from me. Hawke Dream on. The facts are that you have no idea of whether I am one of life's winners, You do not know who has heard of me. Do not know my resume, or why I may be in a position to think I am better than you. I might really be in a position to think I am better than you. I emailed you because I did not want to criticise you in public. And forgot that the email address that Google has is a very old one that I think might keep a little spam from being sent to me. But until you start posting about metalworking, I am for sure superior to you in that way. Dan |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
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Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On Apr 14, 10:31*pm, Hawke wrote:
The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I know that you are unemployed at age 61. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. You have never mentioned any experience with having worked at a trade. I know you have not been in the military and have never mentioned living any where other than California. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I know you enjoy pistol shooting, so it is unlikely that you are a felon. I know you graduated from a college close to where you live, so it is unlikely that you experienced much of the social aspects of college life. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. I know a little bit about where you live and that also casts doubts on your being a winner. I know you post in a metalworking group, but never on metalworking. That says something about your character. As for being a winner or not you don't know. At least you don't pretend you do like Plimpton does. You sure don't know why I may think I'm better than you. It all depends on what you consider important. If having the best job and a big income makes you better than someone else then maybe you are better than me. If you measure a man by a different set of standards you might come off far below me. It all depends on who is doing the measuring and what is he using for his standards. I emailed you because I did not want to criticise you in public. *And forgot that the email address that Google has is a very old one that I think might keep a little spam from being sent to me. That's funny, Dan. Like you have never been snide or nasty in criticizing me in the past? Basically your only contribution is to criticize me so I see no benefit from not letting everyone see just how critical you are. As I've said before, if all you do is constantly criticize me that says a lot about what kind of person you are. It's like someone who never says anything complimentary about anyone. That tells you what kind they are. So don't bother. If you feel you have to say negative things then do it right here. Then everyone can see if you are fair or are just a nit picking ass. I have tried to criticize your thoughts and not you. And thought that if I emailed comments to you, that you would see that I was not trying to embarrass you and not get upset and consider what I actually said. But I can easily post here where everyone can see the faults in you statements. But until you start posting about metalworking, I am for sure superior to you in that way. What did I say about how you decide who is better. It's all about the standard you use. If you use how much metalwork one posts about as a measure of someone then you win that one. But you lose in many other areas you may not even be aware of. You are far more argumentative than you are informative. You find fault far more than you find anything positive to say. You hide yourself to the extreme. Is that the way someone who is confident, and successful in life acts? I'd say that is how a timid underachiever acts. But who knows? You keep everything about you a secret. It's hard to believe you have so much to be proud of when you don't have the courage to show us what you have done. What exactly are you so afraid of that makes you keep so much about you a secret? As for being open and up front about oneself I'm superior to you in that way, aren't I? See what I mean? It all about how you measure. Hawke Actually I am very confident and successful in life. So confident that I do not feel it necessary to say much of anything about myself. Dan |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/13/2012 4:45 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/12/2012 11:57 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
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Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/15/2012 5:02 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/13/2012 4:45 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/12/2012 11:57 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. I don't blame you for not wanting to wake up. Losers like you have miserable lives. You aren't any fun to be around are you? Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/16/2012 10:58 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/15/2012 5:39 AM, wrote: On Apr 14, 10:31 pm, wrote: The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. No matter who you are there are people that won't like you. More true of you than most. I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. You have never mentioned any experience with having worked at a trade. That's true. I never did. I know you have not been in the military and have never mentioned living any where other than California. I never was in the military but I've lived in many states besides California. At age 61, you had to work to dodge the draft. Your first year of draft eligibility was *before* the draft lottery. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I know you enjoy pistol shooting, so it is unlikely that you are a felon. Good one, at least this time you're thoughts are rational. He said it's unlikely. You may well be a scofflaw when it comes to that kind of thing. I know you graduated from a college close to where you live, so it is unlikely that you experienced much of the social aspects of college life. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. You hide yourself to the extreme. Is that the way someone who is confident, and successful in life acts? I'd say that is how a timid underachiever acts. But who knows? You keep everything about you a secret. It's hard to believe you have so much to be proud of when you don't have the courage to show us what you have done. What exactly are you so afraid of that makes you keep so much about you a secret? As for being open and up front about oneself I'm superior to you in that way, aren't I? See what I mean? It all about how you measure. Actually I am very confident and successful in life. So confident that I do not feel it necessary to say much of anything about myself. That's easy to say, Dan, but harder to back up. When you give out the kind of information about yourself the way I have then we can judge you the way you like to do to me. Unlike you, he's not a braggart and doesn't feel any need to try to prove to people he's never met that he's a success. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/16/2012 11:01 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/15/2012 5:02 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/13/2012 4:45 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/12/2012 11:57 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 7:35 AM, George Plimpton wrote:
The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. I don't care how much you wish to take every word and sentence I write and parse it in you lame ass attempt to find some little thing you can say is wrong about it. You apparently think you're a cop who keeps asking me for my story and then says I'm lying when I've told it 50 times and it's never exactly the same. No kidding. Nobody but a liar tells a story exactly the same every time. You look like a fool trying so hard to find such petty little errors or inconsistencies in everything I say. You're just a busybody bitch with nothing to do worth ****. If you weren't such an idiot you would understand the plain meaning of what I said. But you can't even fathom what it means when I say most people that meet me like me. All you do is try to find some cockamamie error in it. You have problems, big ones. You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. Every one of your statements is either an outright lie or it's a fantasy you created in your mind. I never wanted to be married from the time I was a teenager. I knew it wasn't for me. You have no information why I never married except what I just told you, so you made up the inconsiderate and self absorbed part. Then you make up a fantasy about how women feel about me. You haven't a clue how I interact with women or men either. You know that and so does everyone else. So that is all made up. That's what is known as a lie. No matter who you are there are people that won't like you. More true of you than most. Once again, you have no way of knowing that. So it's a lie or a fantasy. I think you lie so much it's not a fantasy. I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. You have no information of my attachment to the workforce. So saying anything about that is fabricated. What I live off is mine. How would you know anything about that? You don't so you lied again. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. Yeah, tennis bum isn't a job skill. But where did you get the idea I was a tennis bum? You know nothing about my life in tennis. So you're making it all up. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. If you only had some evidence of that you might be right. But then you haven't a clue about that so you're lying. You have never mentioned any experience with having worked at a trade. That's true. I never did. I know you have not been in the military and have never mentioned living any where other than California. I never was in the military but I've lived in many states besides California. At age 61, you had to work to dodge the draft. Your first year of draft eligibility was *before* the draft lottery. You talk like you know the facts but you have no idea what is true. I have to correct you so often it's really a tiresome chore. So to set you straight so you don't have to lie here's the facts. I was eligible for the draft when the second lottery was held. I wasn't eligible for the first one because I was in college at the time. A college outside of California that I was attending full time and living on campus in a dorm. When the lottery was taken it was on TV and I had a fairly high number but I didn't know if I would be drafted or not. Lucky for me I wasn't. Now that's the truth so I saved you from having to tell another lie about me. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. If by that you mean a Midwesterner you're wrong again, as usual. I never lived in the middle of the country except as a little boy. I lived on the east coast and the west coast. Mainly in California. I've been all over the country. I'll take California with all its faults over any place else in the U.S. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I don't watch TV excessively. I know you enjoy pistol shooting, so it is unlikely that you are a felon. Good one, at least this time you're thoughts are rational. He said it's unlikely. You may well be a scofflaw when it comes to that kind of thing. Yeah, and you might be a child molester too. Just because there is no proof doesn't mean you aren't a sexual predator. From your actions here you probably are. I know you graduated from a college close to where you live, so it is unlikely that you experienced much of the social aspects of college life. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. You have no idea what I did or did not do. So you make up a fabrication that suits your mentally disordered mind. What's becoming clearer all the time is that you have a mental disorder that causes you to create an entire fantasy from virtually no factual data. So what you are doing is projecting your shortcomings on me. You have no gumption, or stick-to-itiveness, and only dabble in things. But you can't face that reality so you pretend that I have your problems. Believe me bro, I don't have all the warts and weakness you have. Making all this crap up about someone you don't know only shows what a weakling you are. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. FYI, Chico has been rated as one of the best places to live in the U.S. so it's not a hick town. You probably would prefer living in the city of Industry. But then you have no taste. As for working, that is a matter of choice for me. I can or I can choose not to. Either way is up to me. So try as you will you can't make me not working into something bad. Besides that, how about telling us what extraordinary use of time are you engaging in? Still flipping those burgers, where they really need your contribution? You hide yourself to the extreme. Is that the way someone who is confident, and successful in life acts? I'd say that is how a timid underachiever acts. But who knows? You keep everything about you a secret. It's hard to believe you have so much to be proud of when you don't have the courage to show us what you have done. What exactly are you so afraid of that makes you keep so much about you a secret? As for being open and up front about oneself I'm superior to you in that way, aren't I? See what I mean? It all about how you measure. Actually I am very confident and successful in life. So confident that I do not feel it necessary to say much of anything about myself. That's easy to say, Dan, but harder to back up. When you give out the kind of information about yourself the way I have then we can judge you the way you like to do to me. Unlike you, he's not a braggart and doesn't feel any need to try to prove to people he's never met that he's a success. He's a crybaby and a whiner. He's so afraid someone will discover the real him that he goes to extreme lengths to hide all the facts about himself. He's like you. A loudmouth who wants to know everything about others and volunteers nothing about himself. I've told you yokels all kinds of things about me and you keep everything hidden and secret. I'm done playing that game with you. Either you cough up the truth about yourselves or I'm not going to give one more piece of information about me again. You put up or shut up. I want to know what you did that makes you a winner. I want to know where you live and whether you own real property or not, and what it's worth. I want to see some proof that your the kind of person you claim you are, you know, well liked, successful, athletic, smart, and with lots of difficult achievements under your belt. So come up with some answers or you're done hearing anything more about me. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 7:36 AM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/16/2012 11:01 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/15/2012 5:02 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/13/2012 4:45 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/12/2012 11:57 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
Cliff Barnes, portraying sad sack loser Hawwke-Ptooey, blabbered:
On 4/17/2012 7:35 AM, George Plimpton wrote: The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. I don't care how much you wish to take every word and sentence I write and parse it You write a lot of absurd bull****. Most of it is due to your bloated ego. You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. Every one of your statements is either an outright lie or it's a fantasy you created in your mind. It's all true, every word of it. No matter who you are there are people that won't like you. More true of you than most. Once again, you have no way of knowing that. We *all* do know it. I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. You have no information of my attachment to the workforce. I do - you've revealed it, inadvertently of course. What I live off is mine. You didn't earn it. It's an inheritance, or a damages award, or disability payout. You didn't earn it. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. Yeah, tennis bum isn't a job skill. But where did you get the idea I was a tennis bum? You told us. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. If you only had some evidence of that you might be right. I do: your posts. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. If by that you mean a Midwesterner you're wrong again, as usual. I never lived in the middle of the country except as a little boy. You have always lived in the reddest part of a blue state. You live in figurative flyover country. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I don't watch TV excessively. Bull****. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. You have no idea what I did or did not do. I do know - you've told us. You said you attended "numerous" colleges, but never were awarded a degree until you were over age 50. Your life history, as *you* have revealed it here, is that of a dabbler, a dilettante, a loser - someone who always was passively waiting for someone to recognize a greatness that simply wasn't there and shower you with riches. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. FYI, Chico has been rated as one of the best places to live in the U.S. so it's not a hick town. It's a hick town. As for working, that is a matter of choice for me. I can or I can choose not to. I don't think you *can* "choose" to work, as you're basically unemployable. You're living off the proceeds from capital you did not earn. You hide yourself to the extreme. Is that the way someone who is confident, and successful in life acts? I'd say that is how a timid underachiever acts. But who knows? You keep everything about you a secret. It's hard to believe you have so much to be proud of when you don't have the courage to show us what you have done. What exactly are you so afraid of that makes you keep so much about you a secret? As for being open and up front about oneself I'm superior to you in that way, aren't I? See what I mean? It all about how you measure. Actually I am very confident and successful in life. So confident that I do not feel it necessary to say much of anything about myself. That's easy to say, Dan, but harder to back up. When you give out the kind of information about yourself the way I have then we can judge you the way you like to do to me. Unlike you, he's not a braggart and doesn't feel any need to try to prove to people he's never met that he's a success. He's a crybaby and a whiner. Not in the least. He comes across to me as someone who has enjoyed reasonable success, and is secure in the knowledge that he did it largely on his terms. You can't say the same. He's so afraid someone will discover the real him that he goes to extreme lengths to hide all the facts about himself. I don't think he's "hiding" anything. Choosing not to reveal much isn't hiding. Your own revelation of your great shortcomings is unseemly. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 10:25 AM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 7:36 AM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/16/2012 11:01 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/15/2012 5:02 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/13/2012 4:45 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/12/2012 11:57 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. I don't lie, Cliff...er, Hawwke-Ptooey. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the Cliff Barnes of r.c.m.
George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/16/2012 10:58 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/15/2012 5:39 AM, wrote: On Apr 14, 10:31 pm, wrote: The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. Well he DID at one point make two modifications to the statement (well after he made it) One was he changed to "Almost everyone" and the second was "except those that don't" You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. No matter who you are there are people that won't like you. More true of you than most. I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. A trick he learned from you, Dave There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. You have never mentioned any experience with having worked at a trade. That's true. I never did. I know you have not been in the military and have never mentioned living any where other than California. I never was in the military but I've lived in many states besides California. Remember his love for Camden. At age 61, you had to work to dodge the draft. Your first year of draft eligibility was *before* the draft lottery. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like "ugly American" in the sense used when discussing cultural imperialism. [ Possibly just straight up ugly as well, or perhaps even handsome, but that isn't the point.] More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? jk |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the Cliff Barnes of r.c.m.
George Plimpton wrote:
Cliff Barnes, portraying sad sack loser Hawwke-Ptooey, blabbered: On 4/17/2012 7:35 AM, George Plimpton wrote: I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. You have no information of my attachment to the workforce. I do - you've revealed it, inadvertently of course. What I live off is mine. But Dave, you have previously claimed that those who do that are at best, "evil". You are living off of the work of others. You are worse than the evil bosses who make 100X the hourly rate of the employees,. Your marginal pay rate is infinite. You do no work, and yet reap rewards. How could you as a fine upstanding, middle of the road, far left, right leaning, liberally espousing, neo conservative, gun toting, neoracist playboy, ever live with yourself. You didn't earn it. It's an inheritance, or a damages award, or disability payout. You didn't earn it. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. Yeah, tennis bum isn't a job skill. But where did you get the idea I was a tennis bum? You told us. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. If you only had some evidence of that you might be right. I do: your posts. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. If by that you mean a Midwesterner you're wrong again, as usual. I never lived in the middle of the country except as a little boy. You have always lived in the reddest part of a blue state. You live in figurative flyover country. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I don't watch TV excessively. Bull****. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. You have no idea what I did or did not do. I do know - you've told us. You said you attended "numerous" colleges, but never were awarded a degree until you were over age 50. Your life history, as *you* have revealed it here, is that of a dabbler, a dilettante, a loser - someone who always was passively waiting for someone to recognize a greatness that simply wasn't there and shower you with riches. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. FYI, Chico has been rated as one of the best places to live in the U.S. so it's not a hick town. It's a hick town. As for working, that is a matter of choice for me. I can or I can choose not to. I don't think you *can* "choose" to work, as you're basically unemployable. You're living off the proceeds from capital you did not earn. You hide yourself to the extreme. Is that the way someone who is confident, and successful in life acts? I'd say that is how a timid underachiever acts. But who knows? You keep everything about you a secret. It's hard to believe you have so much to be proud of when you don't have the courage to show us what you have done. What exactly are you so afraid of that makes you keep so much about you a secret? As for being open and up front about oneself I'm superior to you in that way, aren't I? See what I mean? It all about how you measure. Actually I am very confident and successful in life. So confident that I do not feel it necessary to say much of anything about myself. That's easy to say, Dan, but harder to back up. When you give out the kind of information about yourself the way I have then we can judge you the way you like to do to me. Unlike you, he's not a braggart and doesn't feel any need to try to prove to people he's never met that he's a success. He's a crybaby and a whiner. Not in the least. He comes across to me as someone who has enjoyed reasonable success, and is secure in the knowledge that he did it largely on his terms. You can't say the same. He's so afraid someone will discover the real him that he goes to extreme lengths to hide all the facts about himself. I don't think he's "hiding" anything. Choosing not to reveal much isn't hiding. Your own revelation of your great shortcomings is unseemly. jk |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 11:28 AM, jk wrote:
What I live off is mine. But Dave, you have previously claimed that those who do that are at best, "evil". You are living off of the work of others. You are worse than the evil bosses who make 100X the hourly rate of the employees,. Your marginal pay rate is infinite. You do no work, and yet reap rewards. How could you as a fine upstanding, middle of the road, far left, right leaning, liberally espousing, neo conservative, gun toting, neoracist playboy, ever live with yourself. What I said is that there is nothing wrong with inheriting something from parents. What I said was wrong was if the amount was gigantic. Leaving a nest egg or a bit of help in life to your kids is fine with me. Leaving a fortune is not. It allows one generation to put it's children in charge of the children of the next generation. It's one thing if I choose you to be in charge of things in this lifetime, but I won't have your children and your grandchildren put in charge of mine just because you want to set them with a fortune. So leaving a moderate legacy to your children is okay by me. But not leaving vast fortunes like the Romneys and other filthy rich people want to do for their kids. That's not fair. By the way, both my parents are still alive. My Dad turned 88 on the 14th of the month. So much for me inheriting my parent's estate. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 10:51 AM, George Plimpton wrote:
Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. I don't lie, Cliff...er, Hawwke-Ptooey. No, but everything you write is untrue and not by mistake. Normal people call that lying. I have no idea what a mental case like you would call it. You're great at making things up. How about making up a story about how your life turned out better than average. You've got quite an imagination so I know you can turn a pig's ear into a silk purse. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On Apr 17, 11:01*pm, Hawke wrote:
I mean, how are you able to get internet access and have a computer if you're so broke you live in a car? If you really are doing something for others for free I would have a high opinion of that. Unfortunately, at this point I have no idea if what you say is true or if you are just screwing with me. Hawke Easy. Pretty much every library has computers for internet access. The krl in the email address that Google has is short for Kitsap Regional Library. The library used to let users dial in and access the internet. I think they did that before there were any browsers. Dan |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 6:54 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 10:50 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Cliff Barnes, portraying sad sack loser Hawwke-Ptooey, blabbered: On 4/17/2012 7:35 AM, George Plimpton wrote: The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. I don't care how much you wish to take every word and sentence I write and parse it You write a lot of absurd bull****. Most of it is due to your bloated ego. You write a lot of nasty, negative, critical, personal attacks, without any factual basis. There's absolutely a factual basis for what I write about you. You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. Every one of your statements is either an outright lie or it's a fantasy you created in your mind. It's all true, every word of it. Everything you write is false. Nope. It's all true. No matter who you are there are people that won't like you. More true of you than most. Once again, you have no way of knowing that. We *all* do know it. You don't know squat. We *all* know that more people despise you than like you. I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. You have no information of my attachment to the workforce. I do - you've revealed it, inadvertently of course. You're Sgt. Schultz, you know nothing! We know that you couldn't work if you wanted to - no skills, shaky work history, no commitment. What I live off is mine. You didn't earn it. It's an inheritance, or a damages award, or disability payout. You didn't earn it. See what I mean, another of your goddamn lies. You're living off some kind of unearned income, and you did *NOT* earn the capital that is providing the return. Cut the ****, ****tard. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. Yeah, tennis bum isn't a job skill. But where did you get the idea I was a tennis bum? You told us. Add another lie to the growing list. Nope. You told us. You bragged that you were a "tennis instructor." But if I'm a paralegal, a former real estate agent, and a tennis professional, and have a college degree, how could I possibly not be a very knowledgeable person? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...342f1af3?hl=en Well, the answer to the question is "easily": none of those things requires much knowledge. But the key thing here is, you admitted to being a ****ing tennis bum. "Instructor" is shorthand, or code, for "bum" when it follows "tennis." This is a well-known fact. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. If you only had some evidence of that you might be right. I do: your posts. Your posts We're talking about your posts, ham hock. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. If by that you mean a Midwesterner you're wrong again, as usual. I never lived in the middle of the country except as a little boy. You have always lived in the reddest part of a blue state. You live in figurative flyover country. How can anyone make so many assertions without any proof at all? Chico = red flyover country I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I don't watch TV excessively. Bull****. You masturbate excessively. I don't masturbate at all, being married to an attractive woman who still likes to get it on. But you *do* watch TV excessively. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. You have no idea what I did or did not do. I do know - you've told us. You said you attended "numerous" colleges, but never were awarded a degree until you were over age 50. Your life history, as *you* have revealed it here, is that of a dabbler, a dilettante, a loser - someone who always was passively waiting for someone to recognize a greatness that simply wasn't there and shower you with riches. But that is according to how you see it. That is according to the facts, bitch. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. FYI, Chico has been rated as one of the best places to live in the U.S. so it's not a hick town. It's a hick town. I've been to hick towns plenty of times. You live in a hick town. Hable espanol? If you had a ****ing clue, you ignorant douche, you'd know that it's "¿Habla español?" But because you're an ignorant ****ing poseur, you ****ed it up. You **** everything up, Ptooey. As for working, that is a matter of choice for me. I can or I can choose not to. I don't think you *can* "choose" to work, as you're basically unemployable. You're living off the proceeds from capital you did not earn. Another one of your fantasies. Nope. You're unemployable: no skills, bad work history, bad attitude, bad work habits. You blow. You couldn't get the proverbial greeter job at Wal-Mart. You hide yourself to the extreme. Is that the way someone who is confident, and successful in life acts? I'd say that is how a timid underachiever acts. But who knows? You keep everything about you a secret. It's hard to believe you have so much to be proud of when you don't have the courage to show us what you have done. What exactly are you so afraid of that makes you keep so much about you a secret? As for being open and up front about oneself I'm superior to you in that way, aren't I? See what I mean? It all about how you measure. Actually I am very confident and successful in life. So confident that I do not feel it necessary to say much of anything about myself. That's easy to say, Dan, but harder to back up. When you give out the kind of information about yourself the way I have then we can judge you the way you like to do to me. Unlike you, he's not a braggart and doesn't feel any need to try to prove to people he's never met that he's a success. He's a crybaby and a whiner. Not in the least. He comes across to me as someone who has enjoyed reasonable success, and is secure in the knowledge that he did it largely on his terms. You can't say the same. Why would anyone believe your guesses? Because they're educated guesses, they're conservative, and I have a track record of being right about things like that. The ones you make about me are always wrong. They're spot-on right, and everyone knows it. He's so afraid someone will discover the real him that he goes to extreme lengths to hide all the facts about himself. I don't think he's "hiding" anything. Choosing not to reveal much isn't hiding. Your own revelation of your great shortcomings is unseemly. The gutlessness you and Dan have put on display No - neither one of us has shown gutlessness, you squat-to-**** do-nothing. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 7:03 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 11:28 AM, jk wrote: What I live off is mine. But Dave, you have previously claimed that those who do that are at best, "evil". You are living off of the work of others. You are worse than the evil bosses who make 100X the hourly rate of the employees,. Your marginal pay rate is infinite. You do no work, and yet reap rewards. How could you as a fine upstanding, middle of the road, far left, right leaning, liberally espousing, neo conservative, gun toting, neoracist playboy, ever live with yourself. What I said is that there is nothing wrong with inheriting something from parents. Ha ha ha ha ha! You're admitting that you're living off a capital fund that you didn't earn. By the way, both my parents are still alive. My Dad turned 88 on the 14th of the month. So much for me inheriting my parent's estate. So, they passed their estate to you in trust. One way or another, you're living off the proceeds of a capital that you didn't earn. You're a ****ing hypocrite. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 7:07 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 10:51 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. I don't lie, Cliff...er, Hawwke-Ptooey. No, but everything you write is untrue and It's not untrue. When I write that you're living off the returns to a capital that you didn't earn, that's the truth. I don't know - or care - if it's your parents' money, an inheritance from another relative, a damages award (flim-flam if it is), a disability award - one way or another, you're living off the returns of a capital sum that you did not earn. You're a ****ing hypocrite. Your values are horrible. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the Cliff Barnes of r.c.m.
" on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:32:33 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: What makes me a winner is that I do volunteer, do not whine, and do not brag. That is enough. We'd all like a "better" situation, but that will not save you. Is that enough about me? "Twill do." B-) I recognize that were I to win a lottery, I'd have solve the current cash flow issues, but the rest of my problems would still be there. pyotr -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 9:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/17/2012 7:03 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 11:28 AM, jk wrote: What I live off is mine. But Dave, you have previously claimed that those who do that are at best, "evil". You are living off of the work of others. You are worse than the evil bosses who make 100X the hourly rate of the employees,. Your marginal pay rate is infinite. You do no work, and yet reap rewards. How could you as a fine upstanding, middle of the road, far left, right leaning, liberally espousing, neo conservative, gun toting, neoracist playboy, ever live with yourself. What I said is that there is nothing wrong with inheriting something from parents. Ha ha ha ha ha! You're admitting that you're living off a capital fund that you didn't earn. Care to show us where it says that? You can't mean the sentence; (there is nothing wrong with inheriting something from parents) means I that did. By the way, both my parents are still alive. My Dad turned 88 on the 14th of the month. So much for me inheriting my parent's estate. So, they passed their estate to you in trust. Their estate is still in their possession. They are living. See if you can figure it out. Or you can just fabricate something up like you usually do. One way or another, you're living off the proceeds of a capital that you didn't earn. You're a ****ing hypocrite. You have no idea what the **** you're talking about. You're just throwing **** against the wall to see if any of it sticks. It doesn't so you're left with nothing but **** on your hands. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 9:13 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/17/2012 6:54 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 10:50 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Cliff Barnes, portraying sad sack loser Hawwke-Ptooey, blabbered: On 4/17/2012 7:35 AM, George Plimpton wrote: The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. I don't care how much you wish to take every word and sentence I write and parse it You write a lot of absurd bull****. Most of it is due to your bloated ego. You write a lot of nasty, negative, critical, personal attacks, without any factual basis. There's absolutely a factual basis for what I write about you. So you say, but none of it passes the laugh test. You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. Every one of your statements is either an outright lie or it's a fantasy you created in your mind. It's all true, every word of it. Everything you write is false. Nope. It's all true. Fantasy! No matter who you are there are people that won't like you. More true of you than most. Once again, you have no way of knowing that. We *all* do know it. You don't know squat. We *all* know that more people despise you than like you. Do we all know that the same way we know you are a miserable bum because you achieved so little in your life? I know that you are unemployed at age 61. You turn the word unemployed into a pejorative. I'm not unemployed. I'm not working. They are not the same. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. You have no information of my attachment to the workforce. I do - you've revealed it, inadvertently of course. You're Sgt. Schultz, you know nothing! We know that you couldn't work if you wanted to - no skills, shaky work history, no commitment. What I live off is mine. You didn't earn it. It's an inheritance, or a damages award, or disability payout. You didn't earn it. See what I mean, another of your goddamn lies. You're living off some kind of unearned income, and you did *NOT* earn the capital that is providing the return. Cut the ****, ****tard. You demanded proof when I told you Bob Dole used his office to get rich from so it's only fair I ask the same from you. Where's you proof? You're lying. You have none. Every word from you is a lie. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. Yeah, tennis bum isn't a job skill. But where did you get the idea I was a tennis bum? You told us. Add another lie to the growing list. Nope. You told us. You bragged that you were a "tennis instructor." The term is tennis professional. But if I'm a paralegal, a former real estate agent, and a tennis professional, and have a college degree, how could I possibly not be a very knowledgeable person? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...342f1af3?hl=en Well, the answer to the question is "easily": none of those things requires much knowledge. But the key thing here is, you admitted to being a ****ing tennis bum. "Instructor" is shorthand, or code, for "bum" when it follows "tennis." This is a well-known fact. You're so full of **** it's ridiculous. The idea it takes little knowledge to be a real estate agent, a paralegal, a tennis professional, and be college educated is ludicrous. Then if you add all the knowledge from those things together it's a huge amount of knowledge. And a tennis professional is more than simply an instructor. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. You know how much skill I had as a tennis player? It was more than anything you have accomplished in your whole life. You never had close to the skill at anything that I had in tennis alone. Tell us what kind of "knowledge worker" you are. It doesn't pay that much does it? So obviously it's not real knowledge intensive is it. You're the sad sack. If not tell me what is it that you do for a living. I'm sure I'm going to be really impressed. If you only had some evidence of that you might be right. I do: your posts. Your posts We're talking about your posts, ham hock. Posts are not evidence of anything. Unless you count the evidence that your posts prove you're dumb. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. If by that you mean a Midwesterner you're wrong again, as usual. I never lived in the middle of the country except as a little boy. You have always lived in the reddest part of a blue state. You live in figurative flyover country. How can anyone make so many assertions without any proof at all? Chico = red flyover country Where do you live? Where in SoCal. I lived there for thirty years so I know L.A. Where do you live, Pico Rivera? Commerce? San Berdoo, Riverside? I know it's not in a good area. You're surrounded by Mexicans aren't you? I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I don't watch TV excessively. Bull****. You masturbate excessively. I don't masturbate at all, being married to an attractive woman who still likes to get it on. But you *do* watch TV excessively. If you're really married it's to an ugly fat pig and the only sex you get is by yourself. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. You have no idea what I did or did not do. I do know - you've told us. You said you attended "numerous" colleges, but never were awarded a degree until you were over age 50. Your life history, as *you* have revealed it here, is that of a dabbler, a dilettante, a loser - someone who always was passively waiting for someone to recognize a greatness that simply wasn't there and shower you with riches. But that is according to how you see it. That is according to the facts, bitch. You make up the facts all by yourself, you big baby. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. FYI, Chico has been rated as one of the best places to live in the U.S. so it's not a hick town. It's a hick town. I've been to hick towns plenty of times. You live in a hick town. Hable espanol? If you had a ****ing clue, you ignorant douche, you'd know that it's "¿Habla español?" But because you're an ignorant ****ing poseur, you ****ed it up. You **** everything up, Ptooey. You're just mad because you're so jealous. Here I am living in a beautiful little college town, doing as I please, and financially well off so I don't need to work for a living. You live in a stinking, smog filled, over crowded city, you have to work to live, you aren't retired or set financially, you have a ****ty job, and you have a gross partner. I'll take what I have over your crappy life any day of the week. I used to live like you. It sucked and I got away to a far better life. I know why you're jealous. Actually, I don't blame you for that. I do blame the asshole part on you though. As for working, that is a matter of choice for me. I can or I can choose not to. I don't think you *can* "choose" to work, as you're basically unemployable. You're living off the proceeds from capital you did not earn. Another one of your fantasies. Nope. You're unemployable: no skills, bad work history, bad attitude, bad work habits. You blow. You couldn't get the proverbial greeter job at Wal-Mart. Funny you bring that up because since you are too cowardly to tell us how you make a living I'm thinking Walmart greeter is your job. I don't think he's "hiding" anything. Choosing not to reveal much isn't hiding. Your own revelation of your great shortcomings is unseemly. The gutlessness you and Dan have put on display No - neither one of us has shown gutlessness, you squat-to-**** do-nothing. Anyone can see for themselves that you are too cowardly to tell anyone what you do for a living, how much you make, where you live, or anything else. You know if you did it would be embarrassing. You're a little mouse. You make a lot of noise but you don't back up anything. You're a classic big talker. So you're small aren't you? What are you about 5'8"? Probably never been in a fight in your life either. Clearly, you aren't high in the courage department. So you make up by talking big. It doesn't work for you. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
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Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 9:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
Funny how much that conflicts with the story about you being a college educated engineer and knowledgeable about electronics, having worked at Boeing, and have a lot of confidence based on what you have achieved in life and the money you have put away over the years that you live on. Does not conflict with it in the least. Shut up you dumb ****. You don't know **** about this. What makes me a winner is that I do volunteer, do not whine, and do not brag. You do come across as sounding awfully proud of yourself and condescending to others. He has good reason to be proud of his achievements, which far exceed yours. He does not come across in the least as being condescending, but you certainly do. No that would be you. You're the loudmouth claiming to be so far superior to me. But you never once show it. You're just a snot nosed little punk trying to act like you're a big shot. You're a **** ant. Is that enough about me? That would be a good start except now I think you're making up stories You have no rational basis for thinking that - nothing but your ****y, bitchy attitude. You really are an effeminate bitch. I think you probably didn't marry because you're a queer. That would be normal thinking for you. Every damn thing out of your mouth is wrong. You want to talk about queer? How about those married guys with only one kid? What's with that? No sex drive or a closet homosexual? Whatever it is it just shows what a weakling you are. I would say you need to man up but what's the use? You aren't capable of it. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/17/2012 9:17 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/17/2012 7:07 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 10:51 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. I don't lie, Cliff...er, Hawwke-Ptooey. No, but everything you write is untrue and It's not untrue. When I write that you're living off the returns to a capital that you didn't earn, that's the truth. I don't know - or care - if it's your parents' money, an inheritance from another relative, a damages award (flim-flam if it is), a disability award - one way or another, you're living off the returns of a capital sum that you did not earn. Tell everyone here how you know what I have earned and what I haven't. If you can't then shut your mouth. You're a ****ing hypocrite. Your values are horrible. I have American values. No wonder you oppose them. You're an anti American communist sympathizer. You have ties to al-Qaeda. You're broke because all your money goes to support Mid East terrorist groups. You hate real Americans. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 4:23 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/17/2012 7:03 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 11:28 AM, jk wrote: What I live off is mine. But Dave, you have previously claimed that those who do that are at best, "evil". You are living off of the work of others. You are worse than the evil bosses who make 100X the hourly rate of the employees,. Your marginal pay rate is infinite. You do no work, and yet reap rewards. How could you as a fine upstanding, middle of the road, far left, right leaning, liberally espousing, neo conservative, gun toting, neoracist playboy, ever live with yourself. What I said is that there is nothing wrong with inheriting something from parents. Ha ha ha ha ha! You're admitting that you're living off a capital fund that you didn't earn. Care to show us where it says that? You *are* doing that. By the way, both my parents are still alive. My Dad turned 88 on the 14th of the month. So much for me inheriting my parent's estate. So, they passed their estate to you in trust. Their estate is still in their possession. They are living. See if you can figure it out. Or you can just fabricate something up like you usually do. One way or another, you're living off the proceeds of a capital fund that you did not earn. You did not save money from your meager earnings as a tennis bum and unsuccessful paralegal and invest it so well that you're now able to live off the dividends and interest of it. No, you came by a large windfall somehow, and you're living off the proceeds of it. One way or another, you're living off the proceeds of a capital that you didn't earn. You're a ****ing hypocrite. You have no idea what the **** you're talking about. I do know what I'm talking about. You're a hypocrite. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 4:52 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:13 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/17/2012 6:54 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 10:50 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Cliff Barnes, portraying sad sack loser Hawwke-Ptooey, blabbered: On 4/17/2012 7:35 AM, George Plimpton wrote: The truth is you don't know a whole lot about me either. All you know is the basics that I've given everyone here. It's all public stuff and doesn't say much about me except who I am, where I live, and other innocuous information. I do know you are not married, which casts a little doubt on your claims that everyone that knows you likes you. I never said everyone likes me. That's not what he said you said, you ****ing inattentive ham hock. He said that you said everyone who knows you likes you...and you did say that. You were lying. I don't care how much you wish to take every word and sentence I write and parse it You write a lot of absurd bull****. Most of it is due to your bloated ego. You write a lot of nasty, negative, critical, personal attacks, without any factual basis. There's absolutely a factual basis for what I write about you. So you say, And so it is. You were too inconsiderate and too self absorbed ever to get married and have a family. You remind me a lot of my younger brother, who did marry and spawn a couple of pups but shouldn't have. Women generally detest my brother, and I think most women detest you. You're everything women hate about men: a know-it-all, a braggart, a blowhard. Every one of your statements is either an outright lie or it's a fantasy you created in your mind. It's all true, every word of it. Everything you write is false. Nope. It's all true. Fantasy! Nope - truth. You were only ever marginally attached to the workforce anyway. You're living off someone else's money; probably your parents'. You have no information of my attachment to the workforce. I do - you've revealed it, inadvertently of course. You're Sgt. Schultz, you know nothing! We know that you couldn't work if you wanted to - no skills, shaky work history, no commitment. What I live off is mine. You didn't earn it. It's an inheritance, or a damages award, or disability payout. You didn't earn it. See what I mean, another of your goddamn lies. You're living off some kind of unearned income, and you did *NOT* earn the capital that is providing the return. Cut the ****, ****tard. You demanded proof when I told you Bob Dole used his office to get rich from And you never supplied it, because there isn't any. You did not save money and invest it and grow it to a sum that now supplies enough dividends and interest for you to live off it. That's a fact. That seems to indicate you do not have a lot of marketable skills. Again, jumping to a conclusion with no evidence to support it. There is evidence to support it. "Tennis bum" isn't really much of a job skill. Yeah, tennis bum isn't a job skill. But where did you get the idea I was a tennis bum? You told us. Add another lie to the growing list. Nope. You told us. You bragged that you were a "tennis instructor." The term is tennis professional. *YOU* said instructor, ****worm. That means tennis bum. A tennis professional is someone who earns money playing tennis against Bjorn Borg or Rafael Nadal, not someone who shows old ladies how to hit the ball against a wall. But if I'm a paralegal, a former real estate agent, and a tennis professional, and have a college degree, how could I possibly not be a very knowledgeable person? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...342f1af3?hl=en Well, the answer to the question is "easily": none of those things requires much knowledge. But the key thing here is, you admitted to being a ****ing tennis bum. "Instructor" is shorthand, or code, for "bum" when it follows "tennis." This is a well-known fact. You're so full of **** it's ridiculous. The idea it takes little knowledge to be a real estate agent, a paralegal, a tennis professional, and be college educated is ludicrous. It doesn't take much knowledge at all, and still less critical thinking ability. You've never done anything that required much skill; not a knowledge worker. You know how much skill I had as a tennis player? It was more than anything you have accomplished in your whole life. How come you never made any money at it? chortle Jesus, is there no end to your absurd sports bragging? I swear you're going to start telling us about the no-hitters you pitched, passing for 5,000 yards in a season, sparring with Ali and making him sweat - you're just a ****ing clown is all. If you only had some evidence of that you might be right. I do: your posts. Your posts We're talking about your posts, ham hock. Posts are not evidence of anything. Your posts provide more than enough evidence to know that you're an unaccomplished clown. So you are probably not a cosmopolitan citizen of the world. Cosmopolitan world citizen? No. More like an ordinary American. More like an ordinary insular unsophisticated flyover country American. If by that you mean a Midwesterner you're wrong again, as usual. I never lived in the middle of the country except as a little boy. You have always lived in the reddest part of a blue state. You live in figurative flyover country. How can anyone make so many assertions without any proof at all? Chico = red flyover country Where do you live? Where in SoCal. I lived there for thirty years so I know L.A. Where do you live, Pico Rivera? Commerce? San Berdoo, Riverside? I know it's not in a good area. You're surrounded by Mexicans aren't you? Left-wing bigotry on display, once again. Try Pasadena, ****wipe - Madison Heights neighborhood. Look it up, Mr. Real Estate Failure. I know you live in Chico and spend a fair amount of time watching TV. I do live in Chico but what is a fair amount of TV watching? Excessive. I don't watch TV excessively. Bull****. You masturbate excessively. I don't masturbate at all, being married to an attractive woman who still likes to get it on. But you *do* watch TV excessively. If you're really married it's to an ugly fat pig and the only sex you get is by yourself. You stupid queer. I guess you missed the part where I said I had gone to numerous colleges over the years, and lived on campus. Oh, now it's "numerous" colleges, is it? And never graduating from any of them until age 50+. *Now* we get a clearer picture of why you never did anything: no stick-to-itiveness, no gumption; a dabbler and a dilettante, just as I said. You have no idea what I did or did not do. I do know - you've told us. You said you attended "numerous" colleges, but never were awarded a degree until you were over age 50. Your life history, as *you* have revealed it here, is that of a dabbler, a dilettante, a loser - someone who always was passively waiting for someone to recognize a greatness that simply wasn't there and shower youwith riches. But that is according to how you see it. That is according to the facts, bitch. You make up the facts all by yourself, Nope. *You* give us the rope to hang you, ****wit. As far as being a winner, you are unemployed living in Chico, so that casts serious doubts on your being a winner. What is your criteria for what you call a winner? You're unemployed too aren't you? Does that cast a doubt on your winning record? I don't know what his criteria are for being a winner, but they don't include being involuntarily out of the work force at age 61 in a hick town. FYI, Chico has been rated as one of the best places to live in the U.S. so it's not a hick town. It's a hick town. I've been to hick towns plenty of times. You live in a hick town. Hable espanol? If you had a ****ing clue, you ignorant douche, you'd know that it's "¿Habla español?" But because you're an ignorant ****ing poseur, you ****ed it up. You **** everything up, Ptooey. You're just mad because you're so jealous. I have no reason to be jealous of an unemployable parasitic queer. As for working, that is a matter of choice for me. I can or I can choose not to. I don't think you *can* "choose" to work, as you're basically unemployable. You're living off the proceeds from capital you did not earn. Another one of your fantasies. Nope. You're unemployable: no skills, bad work history, bad attitude, bad work habits. You blow. You couldn't get the proverbial greeter job at Wal-Mart. Funny you bring that up because since you are too cowardly to tell us how you make a living I'm thinking Walmart greeter is your job. You're wrong, of course. I work in IT for a large financial conglomerate. I don't think he's "hiding" anything. Choosing not to reveal much isn't hiding. Your own revelation of your great shortcomings is unseemly. The gutlessness you and Dan have put on display No - neither one of us has shown gutlessness, you squat-to-**** do-nothing. Anyone can see for themselves that you are too cowardly to tell anyone what you do for a living I've told it numerous times, blowjob. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 5:06 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote: Funny how much that conflicts with the story about you being a college educated engineer and knowledgeable about electronics, having worked at Boeing, and have a lot of confidence based on what you have achieved in life and the money you have put away over the years that you live on. Does not conflict with it in the least. Shut up you dumb ****. Why don't you try to make me shut up, you fat puffy queer. What makes me a winner is that I do volunteer, do not whine, and do not brag. You do come across as sounding awfully proud of yourself and condescending to others. He has good reason to be proud of his achievements, which far exceed yours. He does not come across in the least as being condescending, but you certainly do. No that would be you. Wrong. Is that enough about me? That would be a good start except now I think you're making up stories You have no rational basis for thinking that - nothing but your ****y, bitchy attitude. You really are an effeminate bitch. I think you probably didn't marry because you're a queer. That would be normal thinking for you. It's right. You're a fat puffy queer. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On Apr 18, 7:59*pm, Hawke wrote:
So, Dan, how did a well educated engineer with a job at an aerospace company like Boeing wind up where you are? It sounds like it would be an interesting story and if you actually told the truth about yourself I would have a much higher opinion of you. I don't care about how well people do at being "successful". What I care about is what kind of person a man is. I'd encourage you to not be afraid to come forward with the truth. It beats hiding and making up stories about oneself the way Plimpton does. I haven't lost anything by telling you and others about myself. I doubt you would either. Hawke As I have said, I am not afraid of telling the truth, and I am not hiding. I just am not into talking about myself. It is a very boring topic to me. Dan |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 5:10 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:17 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/17/2012 7:07 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 10:51 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. I don't lie, Cliff...er, Hawwke-Ptooey. No, but everything you write is untrue and It's not untrue. When I write that you're living off the returns to a capital that you didn't earn, that's the truth. I don't know - or care - if it's your parents' money, an inheritance from another relative, a damages award (flim-flam if it is), a disability award - one way or another, you're living off the returns of a capital sum that you did not earn. Tell everyone here how you know what I have earned and what I haven't. It doesn't matter where the unearned capital originated. You're a ****ing hypocrite. Your values are horrible. I have American values. You don't; you have 100% anti-American values. Everything that made America great - private enterprise, individualism, limited government - you want to destroy. Everything that is now weakening America - collectivism, parasitism, choking of business, self indulgence - you promote. |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 5:31 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/18/2012 4:23 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 9:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/17/2012 7:03 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 11:28 AM, jk wrote: What I live off is mine. But Dave, you have previously claimed that those who do that are at best, "evil". You are living off of the work of others. You are worse than the evil bosses who make 100X the hourly rate of the employees,. Your marginal pay rate is infinite. You do no work, and yet reap rewards. How could you as a fine upstanding, middle of the road, far left, right leaning, liberally espousing, neo conservative, gun toting, neoracist playboy, ever live with yourself. What I said is that there is nothing wrong with inheriting something from parents. Ha ha ha ha ha! You're admitting that you're living off a capital fund that you didn't earn. Care to show us where it says that? You *are* doing that. Yes, you do repeat yourself over and over but without facts it's worthless. I never said I'm living off a capital fund I didn't earn. You made that up. You don't know anything but that never stops you from making foolish claims you can't prove. That is your bread and butter. By the way, both my parents are still alive. My Dad turned 88 on the 14th of the month. So much for me inheriting my parent's estate. So, they passed their estate to you in trust. Their estate is still in their possession. They are living. See if you can figure it out. Or you can just fabricate something up like you usually do. One way or another, you're living off the proceeds of a capital fund that you did not earn. You did not save money from your meager earnings as a tennis bum and unsuccessful paralegal and invest it so well that you're now able to live off the dividends and interest of it. No, you came by a large windfall somehow, and you're living off the proceeds of it. Your stupid guesses are not going to shed any light on my financial status. I told you that you get no more information about me until you put up the facts about you. You're too cowardly to do that so from here out all you can do is keep guessing. One way or another, you're living off the proceeds of a capital that you didn't earn. You're a ****ing hypocrite. You have no idea what the **** you're talking about. I do know what I'm talking about. You're a hypocrite. You're just jealous of me. You're transparent. By now everyone here knows your M.O. You just pretend to know things you couldn't possibly know and just keep repeating yourself. Did they teach you that technique at UCLA, which there is serious doubt you ever attended? Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
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Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 5:49 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/18/2012 5:06 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 9:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote: Funny how much that conflicts with the story about you being a college educated engineer and knowledgeable about electronics, having worked at Boeing, and have a lot of confidence based on what you have achieved in life and the money you have put away over the years that you live on. Does not conflict with it in the least. Shut up you dumb ****. Why don't you try to make me shut up, you fat puffy queer. I would be more than happy to shut your stinking pie hole for you any time. I'm sure that I would have no trouble with a puny little twerp like you. But you're a computer nerd so no one is afraid of guys like you. What makes me a winner is that I do volunteer, do not whine, and do not brag. You do come across as sounding awfully proud of yourself and condescending to others. He has good reason to be proud of his achievements, which far exceed yours. He does not come across in the least as being condescending, but you certainly do. No that would be you. Wrong. Is that enough about me? That would be a good start except now I think you're making up stories You have no rational basis for thinking that - nothing but your ****y, bitchy attitude. You really are an effeminate bitch. I think you probably didn't marry because you're a queer. That would be normal thinking for you. It's right. You're a fat puffy queer. But one you couldn't last 3 minutes against. How about you come and visit Chico this summer and you can drop by and show me what a tough guy you aren't. I'm here all the time. But we know you never would because the only kind of fighter you are is a keyboard warrior. Hawke |
Imperfect but still useful analogy: Hawwke-Ptooey as the CliffBarnes of r.c.m.
On 4/18/2012 8:05 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/18/2012 5:10 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 9:17 PM, George Plimpton wrote: On 4/17/2012 7:07 PM, Hawke wrote: On 4/17/2012 10:51 AM, George Plimpton wrote: Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. No, not you three. No, not us. Yes, you! Nope. You're wrong. Hey, little Pimpie, time to wake up. Stop dreaming now and come back to reality where you and your chums have to face the fact that none of you is better than average in any way. We're all better than you - all of us. So I still haven't succeeded in waking you from your fantasy. It's not a fantasy, Cliff...er, Hawwke Ptooey. You really are a bumbling sad sack. I'd prefer that over being a lying piece of **** like you any day of the week. I don't lie, Cliff...er, Hawwke-Ptooey. No, but everything you write is untrue and It's not untrue. When I write that you're living off the returns to a capital that you didn't earn, that's the truth. I don't know - or care - if it's your parents' money, an inheritance from another relative, a damages award (flim-flam if it is), a disability award - one way or another, you're living off the returns of a capital sum that you did not earn. Tell everyone here how you know what I have earned and what I haven't. It doesn't matter where the unearned capital originated. You're a ****ing hypocrite. Your values are horrible. I have American values. You don't; you have 100% anti-American values. Everything that made America great - private enterprise, individualism, limited government - you want to destroy. Everything that is now weakening America - collectivism, parasitism, choking of business, self indulgence - you promote. Listen to all that silly, worthless, rightwing propaganda. You sound like a right wing talk radio show host. One that avoided military service and now is for every war that comes along. You're an ignorant bumpkin. I hope you're good at your job because you have shown over and over you don't know much about anything else. Hawke |
Hawk...the Bearer of Truth
On Apr 12, 1:57*pm, George Plimpton wrote:
Try as he might, Cliff Barnes never could get the better of J.R. Ewing. * The Wikipedia entry describes Barnes * * * During the show's original conception, the character of Cliff was * * * modeled after the late Robert F. Kennedy [never knew that.) * * * However, he evolved into a bumbling sad sack who was very much his * * * own worst enemy. A lawyer and a bureaucrat, not an oil man, Cliff * * * was out of his element when dealing in the cutthroat oil business * * * and, despite repeated attempts, would always be outsmarted and * * * outdone by his rival J.R. Then entry does say that in the final season, Barnes beat J.R. and took over Ewing Oil - I never knew that, as I didn't watch it after about 1982 - but that obviously was just a cheap trick by the series producers. Hawwke-Ptooey very clearly appears to be a bumbling sad sack here. *The difference is, most of his opponents aren't like J.R. - maybe those ****bags Haskell and gummer, but certainly not Dan, jk or I. I personally enjoy Hawk's posts...insightful, intelligent and fair. Of course that would mean any conservative hates him. Tough Sh*t TMT |
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