Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/4/2012 5:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span.

The point stands. You are not an expert in politics - not even close.
You're a fan, but like every fan who sits in the stands at an NBA or NFL
or MLB game, you can't actually *do* it yourself.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma mater,
Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.



In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

George Plimpton wrote:

On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma mater,
Are you sure? I could of sworn he said he had moved back. Back among
his homeboy's (the Birchers) and figured that explained some of his
oddities.

Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.

In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 12:08 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma mater,
Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 12:11 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:37 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 5:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span.

The point stands. You are not an expert in politics - not even close.
You're a fan, but like every fan who sits in the stands at an NBA or NFL
or MLB game, you can't actually *do* it yourself.


What exactly do you think it takes to qualify as an expert in politics?

I just know it will be someone very different from you. I can't say
definitively what it is, but I can tell from looking at you that you're not.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 2:22 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:08 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma mater,
Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

Even so, I'm confident that I would have no problem discussing any
issues with them at all. In fact, one time James Carville's wife
actually called me on the phone to chew me out over an email I sent her
because I ****ed her off. Which just goes to show you the people on top
aren't always any better than people like me.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 12:28 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk


You would surely be surprised to find out that I have on more than one
occasion written emails to O'Reilly and had him read them on the air.


Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.
But it's true. On at least two instances he read my emails on his show.
The only one I remember was one where I told him that his actions looked
just like the ones he calls hate when someone else does it. Of course,
he didn't agree with me but he did read it on the show. I don't have to
make things like that up though because I really have done it.

Now would someone as stupid as you and your pal Pimpboy say I am be able
to get O'Reilly to read his comments on national TV? And don't bother
telling me I'm lying because I'm not.


What? No substantive response as to why you are not on the air with
them.

I like to think the only reason is that I have no one to open any doors
for me. I think if I got an opportunity I could do the job. I'll never
know, because like most people, I'll never get the opportunity. Lots of
times without a break in life no one gets ahead. How about your success?
Get any breaks along the way?

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 2:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:11 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:37 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 5:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span.

The point stands. You are not an expert in politics - not even close.
You're a fan, but like every fan who sits in the stands at an NBA or NFL
or MLB game, you can't actually *do* it yourself.


What exactly do you think it takes to qualify as an expert in politics?

I just know it will be someone very different from you. I can't say
definitively what it is, but I can tell from looking at you that you're
not.


Great answer. You can't even say what an expert is. So much for how much
you know about it. I was expecting so much more.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 5:49 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 2:22 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:08 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts
sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma
mater,
Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

There are dozens of people who regularly show up on those shows. You're
not one of them, and you *couldn't* be one of them. You don't know your
ass from your face.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 5:59 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 2:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:11 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:37 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 5:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span.

The point stands. You are not an expert in politics - not even close.
You're a fan, but like every fan who sits in the stands at an NBA or
NFL
or MLB game, you can't actually *do* it yourself.


What exactly do you think it takes to qualify as an expert in politics?

I just know it will be someone very different from you. I can't say
definitively what it is, but I can tell from looking at you that you're
not.


Great answer. You can't even say what an expert is.

Obviously we all know you're not one.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:



Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.
That's 4, I think.
But it's true. On at least two instances he read my emails on his show.
The only one I remember was one where I told him that his actions looked
just like the ones he calls hate when someone else does it. Of course,
he didn't agree with me but he did read it on the show.

Ahhh one of the ones he likes to make fun of then. Not because he
found you smart or educated, or intelligent, or even witty, just
stupid.
I don't have to
make things like that up though because I really have done it.

What? No substantive response as to why you are not on the air with
them.

I like to think the only reason is that I have no one to open any doors
for me. I think if I got an opportunity I could do the job.
I will admit you probably could hang for most of it. Most of those
talking heads are opinionated and think they know everything too.

I'll never
know, because like most people, I'll never get the opportunity. Lots of
times without a break in life no one gets ahead.
SO it's the universe's fault you never did any thing with your life
then?


How about your success?
earned!
Get any breaks along the way?

Define what you want to call a "break". And for that matter "along the
way".

jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 5:58 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:28 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch
CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk


You would surely be surprised to find out that I have on more than one
occasion written emails to O'Reilly and had him read them on the air.


Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.

That kind of snide bull**** illustrates perfectly why you would never be
invited onto Meet the Press or Face the Nation or any other show where
pundits and political consultants are interviewed. You simply don't
have any analysis to offer; nothing but immature political bias.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 7:34 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 5:49 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 2:22 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:08 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts
sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma
mater,
Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

There are dozens of people who regularly show up on those shows. You're
not one of them, and you *couldn't* be one of them. You don't know your
ass from your face.


But unlike you I'm not a homosexual.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 8:46 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking. Who do you think you are saying **** like that about
me when you couldn't get on radio, TV, or the corner bar with what you
know. You guys are a joke. You ask me why I'm not one of the couple
dozen people who get the best jobs in the world. What's your excuse? How
come you're not a TV personality? Pretty stupid question isn't it?
That's what you're asking me. How come I'm not on TV? Duh! How come you
don't play pro basketball?

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:31 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 7:34 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 5:49 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 2:22 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:08 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch
CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts
sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on
those
shows.

He's not in L.A.; he's actually somewhere up near his ****ty alma
mater,
Chico State. Of course, if he were anybody, it wouldn't be any
problem
for him to get into a studio in Sacramento or San Francisco and be
interviewed remotely by the talking heads. But he isn't anybody.


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

There are dozens of people who regularly show up on those shows. You're
not one of them, and you *couldn't* be one of them. You don't know your
ass from your face.


But unlike you I'm not a homosexual.

Actually, you *are* a queer. I'm married and have a child. You've
never been married, and couldn't have a child because you couldn't get
it up for a woman.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:46 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are you
kidding.

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking.

He is: one of the guys who hasn't blabbered that he's a national-level
political know-it-all.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:




But unlike you I'm not a homosexual.
Oh of course not, other than the fact that you brought the issue up,
why would any one think that. Why only some one who was focused on the
subject would even bring it up, especially as an irrelevant aside.

Of course there is the fact that YOU brought it
up,...................... So have you been thinking about that issue
a lot.


Hardly seems something that a big L or small "l" liberal would use as
a pejorative.... A closet right winger elitist, would though.

jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 8:52 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:



Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.



That's 4, I think.

Four what?



But it's true. On at least two instances he read my emails on his show.
The only one I remember was one where I told him that his actions looked
just like the ones he calls hate when someone else does it. Of course,
he didn't agree with me but he did read it on the show.

Ahhh one of the ones he likes to make fun of then. Not because he
found you smart or educated, or intelligent, or even witty, just
stupid.

Of course that is what someone like you would assume, but not he didn't
make fun of it. He tried to rebut it and then said that it didn't apply
to him. It did, of course. He was railing against someone on the left
and was really hateful about it. I said I couldn't tell how what he did
was any different from what he accuses those on the left of doing. He
just denied he was the same. He has the mike so I couldn't say any more.



I don't have to
make things like that up though because I really have done it.

What? No substantive response as to why you are not on the air with
them.

I like to think the only reason is that I have no one to open any doors
for me. I think if I got an opportunity I could do the job.


I will admit you probably could hang for most of it. Most of those
talking heads are opinionated and think they know everything too.

You don't have to be a genius to be on TV. Lately I've seen governor
John Huntsman's daughter on the Alex Wagner show on MSNBC. She's real
young and I don't think someone like that knows anything like I do about
politics. On the other hand she's drop dead gorgeous looking. Does that
matter?


I'll never
know, because like most people, I'll never get the opportunity. Lots of
times without a break in life no one gets ahead.

SO it's the universe's fault you never did any thing with your life
then?

Should I assume you've done nothing with your life like you just did
about me? Does fate, luck, destiny, or whatever you want to call it have
any bearing on people's lives? I know it does. I've seen how it works
too many times. Some people never get a break in life and others get
every door opened for them. Some people get killed young and others live
100 years. It's all a crap shoot from what I can tell.



How about your success?
earned!

I would never have guessed you would say that. But then your idea of
success isn't all that high is it? I've never heard of you so how
successful can you be. That's the kind of standard you have for me. If
you don't do great then you've accomplished nothing worth a darn. Is
that you?

Get any breaks along the way?

Define what you want to call a "break". And for that matter "along the
way".


Along the way means in the course of your life and a break is when you
get something really good that almost nobody else does. Every successful
person I know of has said that without luck they would be just like
everybody else. A few claim they did it all on their own but everyone
knows they didn't.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 5:58 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:28 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch
CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts
sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk


You would surely be surprised to find out that I have on more than one
occasion written emails to O'Reilly and had him read them on the air.


Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.

That kind of snide bull**** illustrates perfectly why you would never be
invited onto Meet the Press or Face the Nation or any other show where
pundits and political consultants are interviewed. You simply don't have
any analysis to offer; nothing but immature political bias.


You really must be stupid if you think I would go on a national TV show
and talk like I do with a bunch of dudes on the corner, which is akin to
what this group is. But you forgot that I learned in school what
propaganda is. I can spot it a mile away. Bill O'Reilly is a
propagandist. That's just a fact. He's pushing the right wing agenda
every which way from Sunday. If you think he's just impartially
providing information you're a naive fool.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:

On 4/5/2012 8:46 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:
If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.
James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.
Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do?
OK why are you not in line ahead of ALL the other "no name" [ as in
most people don't know who they are{or care}] then?

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking. Who do you think you are saying **** like that about
me when you couldn't get on radio, TV, or the corner bar with what you
know.
We didn't make the jackass claim to be "smart, knowledgeable, and well
liked", you did.


You guys are a joke. You ask me why I'm not one of the couple
dozen people who get the best jobs in the world.

You called it something significantly different a few months ago.

What's your excuse? How
come you're not a TV personality? Pretty stupid question isn't it?
That's what you're asking me. How come I'm not on TV? Duh! How come you
don't play pro basketball?
A truly irrelevant question, but one I will answer.

That is, after noting that You don't "know" that I don't.
You have no idea what I do. You suspect I don't play pro basketball
[With good reason given my feelings on the game.], but you know
nothing.

But yes I do not play "pro" basketball, but then neither do you, but
as well neither of us has claimed to have that skill set.
Among other reasons I don't play, is that I never had any interest in
obtaining that skill set.

You, however, in your usual braggart fashion, claimed to have the
skill set of a "talking head".
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/5/2012 7:34 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 5:59 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 2:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:11 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:37 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 5:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span.

The point stands. You are not an expert in politics - not even close.
You're a fan, but like every fan who sits in the stands at an NBA or
NFL
or MLB game, you can't actually *do* it yourself.


What exactly do you think it takes to qualify as an expert in politics?

I just know it will be someone very different from you. I can't say
definitively what it is, but I can tell from looking at you that you're
not.


Great answer. You can't even say what an expert is.

Obviously we all know you're not one.


You might think that. But you don't know it to be true because you have
no way of knowing how much I actually know. For you to know if I was
qualified as a political expert you would need to know how much I know
about the subject. We both know you don't have any idea as to the depth
of my knowledge. All you know is what you can guess from what I've
written in a recreation newsgroup, and that's virtually nothing. So as
usual, you want us to believe you know things when you have no way of
knowing them at all.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:40 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

There are dozens of people who regularly show up on those shows. You're
not one of them, and you *couldn't* be one of them. You don't know your
ass from your face.


But unlike you I'm not a homosexual.

Actually, you *are* a queer. I'm married and have a child. You've never
been married, and couldn't have a child because you couldn't get it up
for a woman.


You're not married and you don't have a penis.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:43 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:




But unlike you I'm not a homosexual.
Oh of course not, other than the fact that you brought the issue up,
why would any one think that. Why only some one who was focused on the
subject would even bring it up, especially as an irrelevant aside.

Of course there is the fact that YOU brought it
up,...................... So have you been thinking about that issue
a lot.


Hardly seems something that a big L or small "l" liberal would use as
a pejorative.... A closet right winger elitist, would though.

jk


Who says I'm a liberal?

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:41 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/6/2012 4:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:46 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are
you
kidding.

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking.

He is: one of the guys who hasn't blabbered that he's a national-level
political know-it-all.


I guess he's not like you either, huh? A guy who has to make **** up
about people to make them look bad because you can't actually prove a
damn thing you say? You're completely dishonest. Everything you write is
some form of lie or another. You either leave out relevant facts, make
them up as you go along, or just plain lie if it works to paint the
phoney picture you want to paint. It makes me wonder if you make a
living by conning honest people out of their money.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:49 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:52 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:



Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.



That's 4, I think.

Four what?

I expect he means four instances of your ****witted simpleminded
partisanship in some limited amount of time.



But it's true. On at least two instances he read my emails on his show.
The only one I remember was one where I told him that his actions looked
just like the ones he calls hate when someone else does it. Of course,
he didn't agree with me but he did read it on the show.

Ahhh one of the ones he likes to make fun of then. Not because he
found you smart or educated, or intelligent, or even witty, just
stupid.

Of course that is what someone like you would assume, but

He's undoubtedly right.



I don't have to
make things like that up though because I really have done it.

What? No substantive response as to why you are not on the air with
them.

I like to think the only reason is that I have no one to open any doors
for me. I think if I got an opportunity I could do the job.


I will admit you probably could hang for most of it. Most of those
talking heads are opinionated and think they know everything too.

You don't have to be a genius to be on TV.

You have to know something and have something interesting to say. Both
requirements let you out.


I'll never
know, because like most people, I'll never get the opportunity. Lots of
times without a break in life no one gets ahead.

SO it's the universe's fault you never did any thing with your life
then?

Should I assume you've done nothing with your life like you just did
about me?

You go ahead and assume what you like. However, there's a difference:
there is solid evidence that *you* never did anything with your life.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:54 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:56 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 5:58 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:28 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 6:06 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:

On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch
CNN and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span. Many political hacks get on those shows while real experts
sit
on the sidelines because they don't know the right people.

Hawke
But you should have no problem getting on them, you are close to the
media mecca in LA, and since you told us that "everyone likes you"
{except those that don't} you should have NO problem getting on those
shows.

In fact you should have no problem facing off with O' Riley, or even
get on with Limbaugh. [why heck then you could even ask him what his
demographics are, rather than making stuff up]
jk


You would surely be surprised to find out that I have on more than one
occasion written emails to O'Reilly and had him read them on the air.


Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.

That kind of snide bull**** illustrates perfectly why you would never be
invited onto Meet the Press or Face the Nation or any other show where
pundits and political consultants are interviewed. You simply don't have
any analysis to offer; nothing but immature political bias.


You really must be stupid if you think I would go on a national TV show
and talk like I do with a bunch of dudes on the corner

You'd never be invited, because all you have to offer is your stupid
"dude talk".

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:58 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 7:34 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 5:59 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 2:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:11 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 6:37 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/4/2012 5:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/4/2012 2:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
News for Ptooey: people who are experts in politics don't watch CNN
and
C-SPAN and the weekend news talk programs - they're *ON* them.



To all dildo head pimps, you ought to know that there are plenty of
experts on politics that are not on or employed by cable news
shows or
C-Span.

The point stands. You are not an expert in politics - not even close.
You're a fan, but like every fan who sits in the stands at an NBA or
NFL
or MLB game, you can't actually *do* it yourself.


What exactly do you think it takes to qualify as an expert in
politics?

I just know it will be someone very different from you. I can't say
definitively what it is, but I can tell from looking at you that you're
not.


Great answer. You can't even say what an expert is.

Obviously we all know you're not one.


You might think that.

We all know it. You are not an expert in politics - not even close. As
previously established, you're just a fan. But like any fan in the
stands at an NBA or NFL game, you can't actually do it.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:59 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/6/2012 4:40 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

There are dozens of people who regularly show up on those shows. You're
not one of them, and you *couldn't* be one of them. You don't know your
ass from your face.


But unlike you I'm not a homosexual.

Actually, you *are* a queer. I'm married and have a child. You've never
been married, and couldn't have a child because you couldn't get it up
for a woman.


I'm not married and I don't have a penis. I squat to ****.

Naturally.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 5:04 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/6/2012 4:41 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/6/2012 4:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:46 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are
you
kidding.

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking.

He is: one of the guys who hasn't blabbered that he's a national-level
political know-it-all.


I guess he's not like you either, huh? A guy who has to make **** up
about people to make them look bad because you can't actually prove a
damn thing you say?

I've proved that you don't know politics.

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:

On 4/5/2012 8:52 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:



Yeah sure, and I am "sure" you can provide the dates.

Nope. Never took no mind over it as it was no big deal to me. But it was
two or three years ago because it was about then that I stopped watching
him. Nothing to be gained from a conservative propagandist like he is.



That's 4, I think.

Four what?

Pay attention, I am not about to waste time keep you up to date.



But it's true. On at least two instances he read my emails on his show.
The only one I remember was one where I told him that his actions looked
just like the ones he calls hate when someone else does it. Of course,
he didn't agree with me but he did read it on the show.

Ahhh one of the ones he likes to make fun of then. Not because he
found you smart or educated, or intelligent, or even witty, just
stupid.

Of course that is what someone like you would assume, but not he didn't
make fun of it. He tried to rebut it and then said that it didn't apply
to him. It did, of course. He was railing against someone on the left
and was really hateful about it. I said I couldn't tell how what he did
was any different from what he accuses those on the left of doing. He
just denied he was the same. He has the mike so I couldn't say any more.
I will agree that is part of his MO the few times I have seen him.
I don't have to
make things like that up though because I really have done it.
What? No substantive response as to why you are not on the air with
them.
I like to think the only reason is that I have no one to open any doors
for me. I think if I got an opportunity I could do the job.
I will admit you probably could hang for most of it. Most of those
talking heads are opinionated and think they know everything too.

You don't have to be a genius to be on TV. Lately I've seen governor
John Huntsman's daughter on the Alex Wagner show on MSNBC. She's real
young and I don't think someone like that knows anything like I do about
politics.
Oh, now JUST because she is you she can't know more than you?

On the other hand she's drop dead gorgeous looking. Does that
matter?
It does for TV, but Most of the current talking head Male or Female, I
think are fairly ugly by conventional standards.


SO it's the universe's fault you never did any thing with your life
then?

Should I assume you've done nothing with your life like you just did
about me?
I previously told you of some things, back when you wanted to know
what I was doing in the late 70s. What can't remember? What happened
to that "perfect" memory again.


Does fate, luck, destiny, or whatever you want to call it have
any bearing on people's lives? I know it does. I've seen how it works
too many times. Some people never get a break in life
Some never take the ones they are given.
Reminds me of the joke about the shipwrecked pastor, and god.
and others get
every door opened for them. Some people get killed young and others live
100 years. It's all a crap shoot from what I can tell.
And so you give up?


How about your success?
earned!

I would never have guessed you would say that. But then your idea of
success isn't all that high is it? I've never heard of you so how
successful can you be.
Successful enough at keeping out of the lime light.

But then I have lived in enough places, and enough different economic
levels, to have a clue as to what success really is.

That's the kind of standard you have for me. If
you don't do great then you've accomplished nothing worth a darn.
So what HAVE you accomplished?


that you?

Get any breaks along the way?

Define what you want to call a "break". And for that matter "along the
way".


Along the way means in the course of your life and a break is when you
get something really good that almost nobody else does.

I had NOTHING that I "got" from any one, that "almost nobody else
does". [Great Grandson, and grandson of immigrant dirt farmers for
that matter. But my GF also tried his hand at hard rock mining, and
teamstering (back when it meant running mules in the mountains]

Was I at "the right place at the right time" ever? probably.
But those were opportunities to shine, not windfalls. Others were
present at the same place and time, and could have made use of the
same information and opportunity.

Every successful
person I know of has said that without luck they would be just like
everybody else. A few claim they did it all on their own but everyone
knows they didn't.
So what's your sob story "child of privilege" as George would call
you.
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 4:55 PM, jk wrote:

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking. Who do you think you are saying **** like that about
me when you couldn't get on radio, TV, or the corner bar with what you
know.


We didn't make the jackass claim to be "smart, knowledgeable, and well
liked", you did.

You boys claim to be not only as good as me but better. Don't try to say
you don't. Pimpton tries to say he's my superior in every single
category and you do the same thing but in a sneakier way. You like to
intimate that you're really pretty damn good too, smart, successful,
hardworking, etc. You act like you're my equal if not better all the
time. So if you ask me it's you two that are acting like you're hot
****, not me.


You guys are a joke. You ask me why I'm not one of the couple
dozen people who get the best jobs in the world.

You called it something significantly different a few months ago.

What was that?


What's your excuse? How
come you're not a TV personality? Pretty stupid question isn't it?
That's what you're asking me. How come I'm not on TV? Duh! How come you
don't play pro basketball?

A truly irrelevant question, but one I will answer.

That question is certainly no less relevant than what you ask me. You
ask why I'm not terrifically successful. So I ask you the same and when
I do it there is no relevance? It's the same thing.


That is, after noting that You don't "know" that I don't.

I got a pretty good idea.

You have no idea what I do. You suspect I don't play pro basketball
[With good reason given my feelings on the game.], but you know
nothing.

Yeah, I'm assuming you're not one of the 1500 best basketball players in
the world. Since the season is on you wouldn't be able to be here now if
you were. The point is why aren't you as successful as a professional
athlete? That's basically what you asked me?




But yes I do not play "pro" basketball, but then neither do you, but
as well neither of us has claimed to have that skill set.
Among other reasons I don't play, is that I never had any interest in
obtaining that skill set.

The point is you aren't successful on that level and you ask me why I'm
not as successful as Carville or Rove. Because I'm not, OK? Same reason
you aren't as successful as Labron James. Only a chosen few are. I'm not
one of them. You aren't either. Can't you see how stupid your questions
are? I'm not like Carville or Rove for the same reason you aren't
playing ball with the Lakers.



You, however, in your usual braggart fashion, claimed to have the
skill set of a "talking head".



Your problem is that you have misinterpreted a simple recitation of
facts as bragging. Just like me saying I have a degree in political
science. Telling you that isn't bragging no matter how many times you
say it is. If I tell you I'm six one and a half I'm not bragging. If I
tell you that at 61 years old I can bench press 300 lbs. is that
bragging? It's not. You have to misconstrue it to make it into bragging.
But that's what you have done at every opportunity. So it's you that is
the cause of the problems, not I. Got it? It's you and your buddy that
have made problems because you both misconstrue and misunderstand just
about every thing I've written. I have to chalk that up to you both
being extremely biased. Which happens to be a fact.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

Hawke wrote:



Who says I'm a liberal?

Coming out of the closet BOTH ways today I see
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 5:23 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:



Who says I'm a liberal?

Coming out of the closet BOTH ways today I see
jk


Who says I'm a liberal? Had a problem with the question the first time,
I see.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

George Plimpton wrote:



I've proved that you don't know politics.
He has shown me that he DOES know two things.
jk

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 5:13 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/6/2012 5:04 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/6/2012 4:41 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 4/6/2012 4:34 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 4/5/2012 8:46 PM, jk wrote:
wrote:


If you knew anything about the subject you would know that it's a
problem getting on the air anywhere.

James Carville doesn't seem to have much trouble; neither does Karl
Rove. Oh, but then they actually know politics, unlike you.


Give me a break. You cherry pick the two most well known political
experts in the country and ask why I can't get the jobs they do? Are
you
kidding.

Fair enough if your mendacious self promotion were to be true. I guess
your re not really that smart, that knowledgeable , OR that well liked
after all. What a surprise.



Look who's talking.

He is: one of the guys who hasn't blabbered that he's a national-level
political know-it-all.


I guess he's not like you either, huh? A guy who has to make **** up
about people to make them look bad because you can't actually prove a
damn thing you say?

I've proved that you don't know politics.


Yeah, you proved that to yourself but then that's no achievement. You
started out thinking that. What you really proved is how little you know.

Hawke

Hawwke-Ptooey: nattering dilettante, political chowderhead
 

On 4/6/2012 5:08 PM, George Plimpton wrote:


That's 4, I think.

Four what?

I expect he means four instances of your ****witted simpleminded
partisanship in some limited amount of time.

You "expect" meaning you don't know what he means so you create your own
answer for him. But you always do that. You make up things because you
don't know the truth about anything.




But it's true. On at least two instances he read my emails on his show.
The only one I remember was one where I told him that his actions
looked
just like the ones he calls hate when someone else does it. Of course,
he didn't agree with me but he did read it on the show.

Ahhh one of the ones he likes to make fun of then. Not because he
found you smart or educated, or intelligent, or even witty, just
stupid.

Of course that is what someone like you would assume, but

He's undoubtedly right.

So you assume you ass.


I don't have to
make things like that up though because I really have done it.

What? No substantive response as to why you are not on the air with
them.

I like to think the only reason is that I have no one to open any doors
for me. I think if I got an opportunity I could do the job.


I will admit you probably could hang for most of it. Most of those
talking heads are opinionated and think they know everything too.

You don't have to be a genius to be on TV.

You have to know something and have something interesting to say. Both
requirements let you out.

But that's only the opinion of a very dull, poorly educated, extremist.


I'll never
know, because like most people, I'll never get the opportunity. Lots of
times without a break in life no one gets ahead.

SO it's the universe's fault you never did any thing with your life
then?

Should I assume you've done nothing with your life like you just did
about me?

You go ahead and assume what you like. However, there's a difference:
there is solid evidence that *you* never did anything with your life.

If you believe that conjecture and solid evidence are the same thing
then you're right. But then they don't mean the same thing so as usual
you have no evidence just accusations. Blah, blah, blah, is all you've
got. You can't prove anything at all, can you? Time to hang it up.

Hawke