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For the aluminum radiator tanks I'm making, the bases are frames cut
from 1/4-inch thick 5052 aluminum. They are about 23 inches long about
4.5 inches wide, with a cutout about 7/8" inside that.

The problem with both pieces is that the metal is curved slightly, so
that on a flat surface two opposite corners sit about 1/32" off the
surface.

I have read about peening the bowed-inward side, but the problem is that
the bowed-outward side needs to form a watertight seal, so I don't want
it marred up. I have some smooth pieces of steel around, but I'm
wondering if doing this on them will still mess up the surface of the
frames...

Without special equipment is there any other way worth considering to do
this? I have a 3-ton arbor press and a 20-ton H-frame hydro press, dunno
if they will be of any use or not.
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Without special equipment is there any other way worth considering to

do
this? I have a 3-ton arbor press and a 20-ton H-frame hydro press,

dunno
if they will be of any use or not.



I assume you're going to TIG weld this assembly. If that's the case,
then why not consider clamping and jigging as a way to "straighten" it.
Just pull it into line before welding with clamps. That way, the surface
isn't marred, and it will stay put after welding.

You're not talking about a lot of twist.

LLoyd
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On 1/31/2012 11:21 AM, DougC wrote:


Without special equipment is there any other way worth considering to do
this?


I don't have an answer, just an idea from an observation.
Certain instruments, clocks etc that have metal plates in them are often
seen with a regular pattern of small indentations. As far as I've been
able to find out, these are the result of a process that makes the
plates flat.
I've been meaning to do an experiment:
- Get several hardened pins - masonary nails might do.
- Mount them all in a drilled steel plate that holds them parallel and
packed close together.
- Rig up a with a thick plate on top, attach to a press ram and try
flattening a bent plate.
A big press might be needed.
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Doug - in the mid 1800's clock makers would punch brass gears from heavy
sheet, put them in a drop hammer to "straighten" them and then make a
final finish cut on the gears. Maybe your 20 ton press would serve as a
drop hammer?

Hul

DougC wrote:
For the aluminum radiator tanks I'm making, the bases are frames cut
from 1/4-inch thick 5052 aluminum. They are about 23 inches long about
4.5 inches wide, with a cutout about 7/8" inside that.


The problem with both pieces is that the metal is curved slightly, so
that on a flat surface two opposite corners sit about 1/32" off the
surface.


I have read about peening the bowed-inward side, but the problem is that
the bowed-outward side needs to form a watertight seal, so I don't want
it marred up. I have some smooth pieces of steel around, but I'm
wondering if doing this on them will still mess up the surface of the
frames...


Without special equipment is there any other way worth considering to do
this? I have a 3-ton arbor press and a 20-ton H-frame hydro press, dunno
if they will be of any use or not.

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On Jan 30, 5:21*pm, DougC wrote:
For the aluminum radiator tanks I'm making, the bases are frames cut
from 1/4-inch thick 5052 aluminum. They are about 23 inches long about
4.5 inches wide, with a cutout about 7/8" inside that.

The problem with both pieces is that the metal is curved slightly, so
that on a flat surface two opposite corners sit about 1/32" off the
surface.

I have read about peening the bowed-inward side, but the problem is that
the bowed-outward side needs to form a watertight seal, so I don't want
it marred up. I have some smooth pieces of steel around, but I'm
wondering if doing this on them will still mess up the surface of the
frames...

Without special equipment is there any other way worth considering to do
this? I have a 3-ton arbor press and a 20-ton H-frame hydro press, dunno
if they will be of any use or not.


The book I read on flattening sawmill circular saws indicated that the
way it was done was to stretch the metal on the concave side. My
experience with hammer work shows that if you want a good surface
after hammering, you've got to start with a polished hammer head and
anvil surface. So you'd mark the line you want to follow with the
hammer blows, concave side up, then work both sides of that line with
a lightly-crowned light hammer, polished face, of course. This is
kind of body and fender shop stuff. If the edges need to be good,
stay away from them.

Stan
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