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"Unleash the pnies - er Mustangs!" was Apple - VS Made in America?
Gunner Asch on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:42:18 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:04:15 +0700, John B. wrote: I don't remember what the song was. A whole lot of people moved north in days past from the agrarian south to cities like Detroit to make high wages. That worked for a while but now many of them are trapped in inner cites with no hope. See http://www.library.jhu.edu/collectio...gwar/farm.html I wonder if history will do a repeat? Wes The move to Detroit was, if I remember correctly, to take advantage of very much higher wages paid in the factories there as apposed to be a sharecropper in the South. The situation in many parts of Asia are the same. Take a job at the new factory for a salary or stay at home and get practically nothing for harder work. But it wasn't the workers who caused the exodus out of Detroit, it was the unions and the manufacturers who caused that move. The workers were very much the victims. As for history, it does tend to repeat itself. -- John B. Keep in mind..that Detroit was a very very prosperous economy for nearly 70 yrs. Most of those big hotels and factories were built in the 1900-1930s..and Detroit didnt start to decline until the late 1970s It worked just fine for all those years..until something happened to it. Primarily the Unions became greedy and forced manufacturing to dramatically raise their prices. In 1964 the Ford Mustang cost $3000 out the door Seen this yet? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html Neat. Now all Ford has to do is put the last fifty years of technical improvements in side, and I'd say they probably would have a big seller. tschus pyotr -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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"Unleash the pnies - er Mustangs!" was Apple - VS Made in America?
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:35:40 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:42:18 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:04:15 +0700, John B. wrote: I don't remember what the song was. A whole lot of people moved north in days past from the agrarian south to cities like Detroit to make high wages. That worked for a while but now many of them are trapped in inner cites with no hope. See http://www.library.jhu.edu/collectio...gwar/farm.html I wonder if history will do a repeat? Wes The move to Detroit was, if I remember correctly, to take advantage of very much higher wages paid in the factories there as apposed to be a sharecropper in the South. The situation in many parts of Asia are the same. Take a job at the new factory for a salary or stay at home and get practically nothing for harder work. But it wasn't the workers who caused the exodus out of Detroit, it was the unions and the manufacturers who caused that move. The workers were very much the victims. As for history, it does tend to repeat itself. -- John B. Keep in mind..that Detroit was a very very prosperous economy for nearly 70 yrs. Most of those big hotels and factories were built in the 1900-1930s..and Detroit didnt start to decline until the late 1970s It worked just fine for all those years..until something happened to it. Primarily the Unions became greedy and forced manufacturing to dramatically raise their prices. In 1964 the Ford Mustang cost $3000 out the door Seen this yet? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html Neat. Now all Ford has to do is put the last fifty years of technical improvements in side, and I'd say they probably would have a big seller. tschus pyotr -- pyotr It should be noted..that they are charging $15 THOUSAND dollars for the complete sheet metal. No frame, no wiring, no motor..just the stampings. A bit..much..... Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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"Unleash the ponies - er Mustangs!" was Apple - VS Made in America?
Gunner Asch on Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:24:27 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:35:40 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:42:18 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:04:15 +0700, John B. wrote: I don't remember what the song was. A whole lot of people moved north in days past from the agrarian south to cities like Detroit to make high wages. That worked for a while but now many of them are trapped in inner cites with no hope. See http://www.library.jhu.edu/collectio...gwar/farm.html I wonder if history will do a repeat? Wes The move to Detroit was, if I remember correctly, to take advantage of very much higher wages paid in the factories there as apposed to be a sharecropper in the South. The situation in many parts of Asia are the same. Take a job at the new factory for a salary or stay at home and get practically nothing for harder work. But it wasn't the workers who caused the exodus out of Detroit, it was the unions and the manufacturers who caused that move. The workers were very much the victims. As for history, it does tend to repeat itself. -- John B. Keep in mind..that Detroit was a very very prosperous economy for nearly 70 yrs. Most of those big hotels and factories were built in the 1900-1930s..and Detroit didnt start to decline until the late 1970s It worked just fine for all those years..until something happened to it. Primarily the Unions became greedy and forced manufacturing to dramatically raise their prices. In 1964 the Ford Mustang cost $3000 out the door Seen this yet? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html Neat. Now all Ford has to do is put the last fifty years of technical improvements in side, and I'd say they probably would have a big seller. tschus It should be noted..that they are charging $15 THOUSAND dollars for the complete sheet metal. No frame, no wiring, no motor..just the stampings. A bit..much..... For such short runs? Of course. With inflation, the 1964 Mustang would run you around $18 Gs today. So, ramp up production, get the economies of scale and sell them for 20 -25 K, make a fortune. tschus pyotr -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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"Unleash the ponies - er Mustangs!" was Apple - VS Made in America?
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:00:45 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: In article , says... Gunner Asch on Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:24:27 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:35:40 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:42:18 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:04:15 +0700, John B. wrote: I don't remember what the song was. A whole lot of people moved north in days past from the agrarian south to cities like Detroit to make high wages. That worked for a while but now many of them are trapped in inner cites with no hope. See http://www.library.jhu.edu/collectio...gwar/farm.html I wonder if history will do a repeat? Wes The move to Detroit was, if I remember correctly, to take advantage of very much higher wages paid in the factories there as apposed to be a sharecropper in the South. The situation in many parts of Asia are the same. Take a job at the new factory for a salary or stay at home and get practically nothing for harder work. But it wasn't the workers who caused the exodus out of Detroit, it was the unions and the manufacturers who caused that move. The workers were very much the victims. As for history, it does tend to repeat itself. -- John B. Keep in mind..that Detroit was a very very prosperous economy for nearly 70 yrs. Most of those big hotels and factories were built in the 1900-1930s..and Detroit didnt start to decline until the late 1970s It worked just fine for all those years..until something happened to it. Primarily the Unions became greedy and forced manufacturing to dramatically raise their prices. In 1964 the Ford Mustang cost $3000 out the door Seen this yet? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html Neat. Now all Ford has to do is put the last fifty years of technical improvements in side, and I'd say they probably would have a big seller. tschus It should be noted..that they are charging $15 THOUSAND dollars for the complete sheet metal. No frame, no wiring, no motor..just the stampings. A bit..much..... For such short runs? Of course. With inflation, the 1964 Mustang would run you around $18 Gs today. So, ramp up production, get the economies of scale and sell them for 20 -25 K, make a fortune. So what would this 2012 production-legal Mustang look like? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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"Unleash the ponies - er Mustangs!" was Apple - VS Made in America?
Gunner Asch on Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:33:00 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:00:45 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html Neat. Now all Ford has to do is put the last fifty years of technical improvements in side, and I'd say they probably would have a big seller. tschus It should be noted..that they are charging $15 THOUSAND dollars for the complete sheet metal. No frame, no wiring, no motor..just the stampings. A bit..much..... For such short runs? Of course. With inflation, the 1964 Mustang would run you around $18 Gs today. So, ramp up production, get the economies of scale and sell them for 20 -25 K, make a fortune. So what would this 2012 production-legal Mustang look like? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html Yeah, just like that. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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"Unleash the pnies - er Mustangs!" was Apple - VS Made in America?
On Jan 25, 3:24*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:35:40 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:42:18 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking *the following: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:04:15 +0700, John B. wrote: I don't remember what the song was. *A whole lot of people moved north in days past from the agrarian south to cities like Detroit to make high wages. *That worked for a while but now many of them are trapped in inner cites with no hope. See http://www.library.jhu.edu/collectio...ns/sheetmusic/.... I wonder if history will do a repeat? Wes The move to Detroit was, if I remember correctly, to take advantage of very much higher wages paid in the factories there as apposed to be a sharecropper in the South. The situation in many parts of Asia are the same. Take a job at the new factory for a salary or stay at home and get practically nothing for harder work. But it wasn't the workers who caused the exodus out of Detroit, it was the unions and the manufacturers who caused that move. The workers were very much the victims. As for history, it does tend to repeat itself. -- John B. Keep in mind..that Detroit was a very very prosperous economy for nearly 70 yrs. Most of those big hotels and factories were built in the 1900-1930s..and Detroit didnt start to decline until the late 1970s It worked just fine for all those years..until something happened to it.. Primarily the Unions became greedy and forced *manufacturing to dramatically raise their prices. In 1964 the Ford Mustang cost $3000 out the door Seen this yet? http://autos.yahoo.com/news/ford-rei...5-mustang.html * *Neat. *Now all Ford has to do is put the last fifty years of technical improvements in side, and I'd say they probably would have a big seller. tschus pyotr -- pyotr It should be noted..that they are charging $15 THOUSAND dollars for the complete sheet metal. No frame, no wiring, no motor..just the stampings. A bit..much..... Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Gunner Asch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So that's only $1500 in '65 dollars, applying my x10 rule for '60s prices. Of course, my Dad bought a new '67 Rambler for about that. A Ford LTD wagon was about $2200. We're rapidly heading for a one cent dollar. Stan |
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