On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:34:16 -0500, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 12/30/2011 15:44, Delvin Benet wrote:
SNIP


One specious claim about deterrence can be discarded out of hand: that
the DP "at least deters the murderer from killing again." So does a
life-without-parole prison sentence.


Wrong. Possible escape, murder of a corrections officer, murder of
another inmate.

And, with a 30 year sentence comes a million dollar price tag just for
warehousing a known and unrepenting killer. (Estimated at $33k/yr per
useless life)

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:49:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:34:16 -0500, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 12/30/2011 15:44, Delvin Benet wrote:
SNIP


One specious claim about deterrence can be discarded out of hand: that
the DP "at least deters the murderer from killing again." So does a
life-without-parole prison sentence.


Wrong. Possible escape, murder of a corrections officer, murder of
another inmate.

And, with a 30 year sentence comes a million dollar price tag just for
warehousing a known and unrepenting killer. (Estimated at $33k/yr per
useless life)

In California its $56k a year per prisoner

Of course..the death penalty costs on average...$5-8 million here in
California

California prison guards are the highest paid "cops" in the state..and
in all 50 states as I recall

Texas on the other hand is $19k a year, best as I can recall



Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Jan 4, 2:01*am, George Plimpton wrote:

When the state executes a prisoner, the prisoner's death *is* the goal.
* That's what makes it entirely different from war.

I think the goal is a world without people that do inhumane acts.
Better if you can convince people to not do such acts. But
eliminating people that do inhumane acts is another method.


Dan

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:03:20 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Jan 4, 2:01*am, George Plimpton wrote:

When the state executes a prisoner, the prisoner's death *is* the goal.
* That's what makes it entirely different from war.

I think the goal is a world without people that do inhumane acts.
Better if you can convince people to not do such acts. But
eliminating people that do inhumane acts is another method.


Dan

Sure cuts down that nasty recidivism rate......

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch