I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

On 11/12/2011 1:16 AM, Ignoramus8740 wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

At least you now have a great boss!

On 2011-11-12, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:
On 11/12/2011 1:16 AM, Ignoramus8740 wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

At least you now have a great boss!

Great point!

i

Ignoramus22766 wrote:

On 2011-11-12, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:
On 11/12/2011 1:16 AM, Ignoramus8740 wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

At least you now have a great boss!

Great point!

i

When is payday?

Wes

PS

Good Luck!

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:29:07 -0500, Wes
wrote:

Ignoramus22766 wrote:

On 2011-11-12, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:
On 11/12/2011 1:16 AM, Ignoramus8740 wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

At least you now have a great boss!

Great point!

i

When is payday?

Every day is payday when you work for yourself. Caveat spendor.

--
That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met,
you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:16:07 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:29:07 -0500, Wes
wrote:

Ignoramus22766 wrote:

On 2011-11-12, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:
On 11/12/2011 1:16 AM, Ignoramus8740 wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

At least you now have a great boss!

Great point!

i

When is payday?

Every day is payday when you work for yourself. Caveat spendor.


One never works for himself when one owns a business. One suddenly gets
far far more bosses than one had when working for a company.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Congratulations and good luck.

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/

On 2011-11-12, azotic wrote:
"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Congratulations and good luck.

Thanks. Lately, the job was such a hindrance.

Ignoramus22766 wrote:


I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.


Thanks. Lately, the job was such a hindrance.

BOY, wish I could do the same. But, with 6 kids (2 in college)
I can't give up the benefits package just yet.

Jon

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i
I took that step 20 years ago now.

I can see you have the skills and passion to succeed. Good Luck.

Karl

On Nov 11, 8:16*pm, Ignoramus8740
wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Congratulations and good luck.
Karl

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Best of luck to you! I think you are going to do marvelously!

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On 2011-11-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Best of luck to you! I think you are going to do marvelously!

Thanks.

I acquired someone's machine shop today.

Cincinnati mono set T&C grinder with very many collets, a bunch of
tooling for same, 612 surface grinder, Wilton bullet vise looks like
3.5", dust collector, rotary magnetic chuck with variable speed, 5C
collet set, boxes and boxes and boxes of tooling and diamond grinding
wheels, various miscellaneous, compressor etc.

I am moving all of this tomorrow with my guy.

i

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:59:00 -0600, Ignoramus22978
wrote:

On 2011-11-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Best of luck to you! I think you are going to do marvelously!

Thanks.

I acquired someone's machine shop today.

Cincinnati mono set T&C grinder with very many collets, a bunch of
tooling for same, 612 surface grinder, Wilton bullet vise looks like
3.5", dust collector, rotary magnetic chuck with variable speed, 5C
collet set, boxes and boxes and boxes of tooling and diamond grinding
wheels, various miscellaneous, compressor etc.

I am moving all of this tomorrow with my guy.

i

A MONOSET! Most folks don't know this one. If you're going to have
one T&C grinder, this is the one. Cinnci farmed production out to
Tiawan and i have this clone. It can make any custom cutter you can
dream up.

Anybody looking for a T&C grinder should make friends with Iggy real
quick.

Karl

On 2011-11-14, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:59:00 -0600, Ignoramus22978
wrote:

On 2011-11-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Best of luck to you! I think you are going to do marvelously!

Thanks.

I acquired someone's machine shop today.

Cincinnati mono set T&C grinder with very many collets, a bunch of
tooling for same, 612 surface grinder, Wilton bullet vise looks like
3.5", dust collector, rotary magnetic chuck with variable speed, 5C
collet set, boxes and boxes and boxes of tooling and diamond grinding
wheels, various miscellaneous, compressor etc.

I am moving all of this tomorrow with my guy.

i

A MONOSET! Most folks don't know this one. If you're going to have
one T&C grinder, this is the one. Cinnci farmed production out to
Tiawan and i have this clone. It can make any custom cutter you can
dream up.

Anybody looking for a T&C grinder should make friends with Iggy real
quick.

That monoset comes with a BOATLOAD of accessories, too. Have you
figured out how to use yours?

I am selling Cincinnati #2's and I want $500 for each.

i

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:54:34 -0600, Ignoramus1493
wrote:

On 2011-11-14, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:59:00 -0600, Ignoramus22978
wrote:

On 2011-11-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

Best of luck to you! I think you are going to do marvelously!

Thanks.

I acquired someone's machine shop today.

Cincinnati mono set T&C grinder with very many collets, a bunch of
tooling for same, 612 surface grinder, Wilton bullet vise looks like
3.5", dust collector, rotary magnetic chuck with variable speed, 5C
collet set, boxes and boxes and boxes of tooling and diamond grinding
wheels, various miscellaneous, compressor etc.

I am moving all of this tomorrow with my guy.

i

A MONOSET! Most folks don't know this one. If you're going to have
one T&C grinder, this is the one. Cinnci farmed production out to
Tiawan and i have this clone. It can make any custom cutter you can
dream up.

Anybody looking for a T&C grinder should make friends with Iggy real
quick.

That monoset comes with a BOATLOAD of accessories, too. Have you
figured out how to use yours?

I am selling Cincinnati #2's and I want $500 for each.

i

I'm certainly not a master, but I've resharped a lot of stuff and made
several custom cutters. The tooling is worth more than the machine.
When/if you get the tooling all photographed, send me a link.

I'll be in the windy city early Friday after Thankgiving. Do you open
early for black Friday deals?

Karl

On Nov 12, 1:16*am, Ignoramus8740
wrote:
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

Correction:

Now you're working 24/7 for your customers.
There are no tougher bosses than that.

G'luck,
PaulS

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:16:33 -0600, Ignoramus8740
wrote:

I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

Goodonya, mate. Well done.

--
That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met,
you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

It is often so with someone who is so busy making a living that they don't
have the time or effort they need to make some real money.

You'll do it. Just concentrate on the "home runs". Those things that make
the most money. Leave the labor intensive and medial profit stuff to
others.

Steve

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.


I just did that myself, Ig. Now, as the response indicated, I have to
concentrate on what makes money, instead of what entertains my curiosity.

I deliberatly "front-end loaded" my schedule with stuff that IS menial, and
time-consuming, but the products will win creds with the same customers on
products that are much more profitable and less mindless to make.

LLoyd

On 2011-11-13, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.


I just did that myself, Ig. Now, as the response indicated, I have
to concentrate on what makes money, instead of what entertains my
curiosity.

Congratulations. You seem to be a very level headed, inquisitive and
thorough person, so, I think, you will do well for yourself.

I deliberatly "front-end loaded" my schedule with stuff that IS
menial, and time-consuming, but the products will win creds with the
same customers on products that are much more profitable and less
mindless to make.

A great approach.

i

On 2011-11-12, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

It is often so with someone who is so busy making a living that they don't
have the time or effort they need to make some real money.

You'll do it. Just concentrate on the "home runs". Those things that make
the most money. Leave the labor intensive and medial profit stuff to
others.

Steve, thanks. I wanted, at first, argue and disagree about medium
profit stuff, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
that you are actually right. I will try to delegate the boring stuff,
like assembling shelves, within budget of course. I am quite excited
about this transition and so far, enjoy every second of it.

i

"Ignoramus22978" wrote in message
...
On 2011-11-12, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

It is often so with someone who is so busy making a living that they
don't
have the time or effort they need to make some real money.

You'll do it. Just concentrate on the "home runs". Those things that
make
the most money. Leave the labor intensive and medial profit stuff to
others.

Steve, thanks. I wanted, at first, argue and disagree about medium
profit stuff, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
that you are actually right. I will try to delegate the boring stuff,
like assembling shelves, within budget of course. I am quite excited
about this transition and so far, enjoy every second of it.

i

Now that you're not working for $XX per hour, you have to set that amount.
For me, it's $50 an hour. OR stuff that can bring me a total profit that
will amount to that per hour when divided by time spent. Example: you can
spend time, even hours, schmoozing, or even doing stuff for free that may
come back to you in spades later. Sometimes, $pades times $ix. Sometimes,
a true freebie.

One bit of advice I got early was when a guy told me that he had some more
work, and if I did this job cheap, that he would give me the other work at a
good profit. I asked a mentor of mine, and he said Fergeddabout it, but
just take each job separately. No carrot and donkey tricks.

And the free schmoozing can reach a limit, too. You're not in it now for
fun. If it ain't making you money, it ain't fun. Keep that in mind, and go
fishin, or take your kids to the park if you want to do something that is
FUN and free. If a businessman wants to fault you for not wanting to do
something for free, he's not someone you want to mess with anyway.

YMMV. You've been around the block enough times to know when someone's
yanking your chain.

Steve

On 2011-11-14, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus22978" wrote in message
...
On 2011-11-12, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

It is often so with someone who is so busy making a living that they
don't
have the time or effort they need to make some real money.

You'll do it. Just concentrate on the "home runs". Those things that
make
the most money. Leave the labor intensive and medial profit stuff to
others.

Steve, thanks. I wanted, at first, argue and disagree about medium
profit stuff, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
that you are actually right. I will try to delegate the boring stuff,
like assembling shelves, within budget of course. I am quite excited
about this transition and so far, enjoy every second of it.

i

Now that you're not working for $XX per hour, you have to set that amount.
For me, it's $50 an hour. OR stuff that can bring me a total profit that
will amount to that per hour when divided by time spent. Example: you can
spend time, even hours, schmoozing, or even doing stuff for free that may
come back to you in spades later. Sometimes, $pades times $ix. Sometimes,
a true freebie.

One bit of advice I got early was when a guy told me that he had some more
work, and if I did this job cheap, that he would give me the other work at a
good profit. I asked a mentor of mine, and he said Fergeddabout it, but
just take each job separately. No carrot and donkey tricks.

And the free schmoozing can reach a limit, too. You're not in it now for
fun. If it ain't making you money, it ain't fun. Keep that in mind, and go
fishin, or take your kids to the park if you want to do something that is
FUN and free. If a businessman wants to fault you for not wanting to do
something for free, he's not someone you want to mess with anyway.

YMMV. You've been around the block enough times to know when someone's
yanking your chain.

Steve, I agree. Now, I have decided, for now, that I do not want to
provide any services at all. I will not be welding for hire, fixing
machines for anyone besides myself, etc. The only thing that I will be
doing is buying and selling industrial equipment (and my
websites). So, what you said, while 200% true, I hope will not apply
to me.

I have, however, seen buyers who waste a lot of my time, and I try to
keep those away from me.

The "give me a huge discount, I will buy more from you later" type is
a very frequent occurrence.

i

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:43:29 -0600, Ignoramus22978
wrote:

On 2011-11-14, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus22978" wrote in message
...
On 2011-11-12, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

It is often so with someone who is so busy making a living that they
don't
have the time or effort they need to make some real money.

You'll do it. Just concentrate on the "home runs". Those things that
make
the most money. Leave the labor intensive and medial profit stuff to
others.

Steve, thanks. I wanted, at first, argue and disagree about medium
profit stuff, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
that you are actually right. I will try to delegate the boring stuff,
like assembling shelves, within budget of course. I am quite excited
about this transition and so far, enjoy every second of it.

i

Now that you're not working for $XX per hour, you have to set that amount.
For me, it's $50 an hour. OR stuff that can bring me a total profit that
will amount to that per hour when divided by time spent. Example: you can
spend time, even hours, schmoozing, or even doing stuff for free that may
come back to you in spades later. Sometimes, $pades times $ix. Sometimes,
a true freebie.

One bit of advice I got early was when a guy told me that he had some more
work, and if I did this job cheap, that he would give me the other work at a
good profit. I asked a mentor of mine, and he said Fergeddabout it, but
just take each job separately. No carrot and donkey tricks.

And the free schmoozing can reach a limit, too. You're not in it now for
fun. If it ain't making you money, it ain't fun. Keep that in mind, and go
fishin, or take your kids to the park if you want to do something that is
FUN and free. If a businessman wants to fault you for not wanting to do
something for free, he's not someone you want to mess with anyway.

YMMV. You've been around the block enough times to know when someone's
yanking your chain.

Steve, I agree. Now, I have decided, for now, that I do not want to
provide any services at all. I will not be welding for hire, fixing
machines for anyone besides myself, etc. The only thing that I will be
doing is buying and selling industrial equipment (and my
websites). So, what you said, while 200% true, I hope will not apply
to me.

I have, however, seen buyers who waste a lot of my time, and I try to
keep those away from me.

The "give me a huge discount, I will buy more from you later" type is
a very frequent occurrence.


I was rebuilding a fleet of pick-ups in N. Thailand years ago and
tried that on the Chinese Machine shop owner - "I got a bunch to do,
give me a good price". He says, full price on the first one, 10% off
on the second and 15% off on all the rest.


--
John B.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:43:29 -0600, Ignoramus22978
wrote:

On 2011-11-14, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus22978" wrote in message
...
On 2011-11-12, Steve B wrote:

"Ignoramus8740" wrote in message
...
I quit my job a while ago and am no longer working for anyone.

i

It is often so with someone who is so busy making a living that they
don't
have the time or effort they need to make some real money.

You'll do it. Just concentrate on the "home runs". Those things that
make
the most money. Leave the labor intensive and medial profit stuff to
others.

Steve, thanks. I wanted, at first, argue and disagree about medium
profit stuff, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
that you are actually right. I will try to delegate the boring stuff,
like assembling shelves, within budget of course. I am quite excited
about this transition and so far, enjoy every second of it.

i

Now that you're not working for $XX per hour, you have to set that amount.
For me, it's $50 an hour. OR stuff that can bring me a total profit that
will amount to that per hour when divided by time spent. Example: you can
spend time, even hours, schmoozing, or even doing stuff for free that may
come back to you in spades later. Sometimes, $pades times $ix. Sometimes,
a true freebie.

One bit of advice I got early was when a guy told me that he had some more
work, and if I did this job cheap, that he would give me the other work at a
good profit. I asked a mentor of mine, and he said Fergeddabout it, but
just take each job separately. No carrot and donkey tricks.

And the free schmoozing can reach a limit, too. You're not in it now for
fun. If it ain't making you money, it ain't fun. Keep that in mind, and go
fishin, or take your kids to the park if you want to do something that is
FUN and free. If a businessman wants to fault you for not wanting to do
something for free, he's not someone you want to mess with anyway.

YMMV. You've been around the block enough times to know when someone's
yanking your chain.

Steve, I agree. Now, I have decided, for now, that I do not want to
provide any services at all. I will not be welding for hire, fixing
machines for anyone besides myself, etc. The only thing that I will be
doing is buying and selling industrial equipment (and my
websites). So, what you said, while 200% true, I hope will not apply
to me.

I have, however, seen buyers who waste a lot of my time, and I try to
keep those away from me.

You're right to do that. Say "Buy the item and then we can talk." Or,
when they come up to you, set your timer watch for ten minutes and
when it beeps (or if they ask) tell them that you chat for ten but
charge $50/hr (w/ 1 hour minimum) for consulting time. It takes 3
seconds to set my Casio diver's watch to countdown mode. I use it to
steep my tea most often.

I'm about ready to start charging for estimates, myself. People who
have no timeline feel that others don't, either, and will readily
waste a couple hours of your time if given half a chance.


The "give me a huge discount, I will buy more from you later" type is
a very frequent occurrence.

And you might see as many as ONE of those folks return at a later
date, but don't hold your breath. If they do return, it with a "Well,
you gave me this low price last time, so do it again." Feh! I try to
get them to buy in quantity for a good price, telling them that I'm
not a one-off wholesaler. OTOH, I'm tired of hawking tees so my 2
lines of shirts are going wholesale from now on. Anyone need humorous
and/or politically incorrect Christmas presents? $8 a pop plus actual
shipping.

--
That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met,
you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King

I've had that done to me. People want a great price, cause
they can get me lots more work. One was a realtor lady, I
unlocked her car free, cause she could get me lots of lock
work. Got her card, mailed her literature. Never heard from
her again.

Now, I tell people that the discounts start on the third
job.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Steve B" wrote in message
...

One bit of advice I got early was when a guy told me that he
had some more
work, and if I did this job cheap, that he would give me the
other work at a
good profit. I asked a mentor of mine, and he said
Fergeddabout it, but
just take each job separately. No carrot and donkey tricks.

YMMV. You've been around the block enough times to know
when someone's
yanking your chain.

Steve