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The "rage" diaper filling on the Left Is Just Beginning
"Jeff M" wrote in message ... On 9/3/2011 7:48 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: Hint: Corporations don't pay taxes. What happens, is that they are forced to raise their prices, and collect money from customers, to hand their customer's money over to the government. Hint: Individuals don't pay taxes. What happens, is that they are forced to raise their wage demands, and collect money from employers, to hand their employers' money over to the government. Hint: What really happens is that equity owners are forced to pay corporate taxes from what would otherwise be their profit, and they try to offset this by increasing profits by charging more for their goods and services, selling more goods and services, and by reducing the costs of producing those goods and services. Meanwhile, the tax revenue is all spent in debt servicing, making more money available for lending and investment, and in purchasing goods, services and labor, stimulating economic activity, as well as meeting public needs and wants, so it's not a total loss. It's probably not a loss at all. Try running an advanced economy with taxes lower than ours. No developed country can do it, for good reason: the number of services and the amount of infrastructure required to keep an economy like this going is enormous. When people talk about the government "stealing" THEIR money, I always wonder how much money they actually would make, without the system we have that's supported by taxes. Probably much less than they're netting now. They'd be living in the 19th century, slopping their hogs and plowing with a horse. -- Ed Huntress |
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The "rage" diaper filling on the Left Is Just Beginning
I'd like to see a lot of the various federal spending shut
off. For example, welfare and medical care to illegal border criminals. That would return a lot of taxpayer dollars to the tax payers, and would cut the federal debt, by a lot. We also didn't need the stimulus packages, and the quantitative easings. Those actions would reduce taxes, and would benefit the economy. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... Try running an advanced economy with taxes lower than ours. No developed country can do it, for good reason: the number of services and the amount of infrastructure required to keep an economy like this going is enormous. When people talk about the government "stealing" THEIR money, I always wonder how much money they actually would make, without the system we have that's supported by taxes. Probably much less than they're netting now. They'd be living in the 19th century, slopping their hogs and plowing with a horse. -- Ed Huntress |
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The "rage" diaper filling on the Left Is Just Beginning
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... I'd like to see a lot of the various federal spending shut off. For example, welfare and medical care to illegal border criminals. That would return a lot of taxpayer dollars to the tax payers, and would cut the federal debt, by a lot. I doubt if it would even show up as a tength of a percent, Chris. We also didn't need the stimulus packages, and the quantitative easings. Ah, yeah, we did. Those actions would reduce taxes, and would benefit the economy. No, the latter ones would throw us into a real depression. Have you ever tried to put numbers on these ideas of yours? -- Ed Huntress -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... Try running an advanced economy with taxes lower than ours. No developed country can do it, for good reason: the number of services and the amount of infrastructure required to keep an economy like this going is enormous. When people talk about the government "stealing" THEIR money, I always wonder how much money they actually would make, without the system we have that's supported by taxes. Probably much less than they're netting now. They'd be living in the 19th century, slopping their hogs and plowing with a horse. -- Ed Huntress |
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