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Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G


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congrats!
On 2011-07-26, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G


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congrats!
On 2011-07-26, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G



Ive not been this tickled about getting Stuff in years! Maybe Im
regressing into my second childhood. Hummm...pony tail and a pierced
earring..yah..thats the ticket....

G

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
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Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G



Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:44:06 -0500, Karl Townsend
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
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Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G



Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl


Worst comes to worst..I can simply rewire the entire beasty. Its much
easier to do than doing the same on a CNC mill..which Ive done a fair
amount of recently.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/MoogVisimetrics

I did 9 of these over the last couple months....

While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:51:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:44:06 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G



Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl


Worst comes to worst..I can simply rewire the entire beasty. Its much
easier to do than doing the same on a CNC mill..which Ive done a fair
amount of recently.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/MoogVisimetrics

I did 9 of these over the last couple months....


Your skills certainly far exceed mine of 30 years ago. But the Lucas
infection is insidious. It infects starters, generators, the horn,
everything. One of my favorites from 30 years ago - hit the bright
lights button on the floor and the lights short out. It left me going
110+ on a county road at night. Twas exciting.

Karl





While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner


I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.

Karl

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Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:51:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:44:06 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:


On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G

Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl

Worst comes to worst..I can simply rewire the entire beasty. Its much
easier to do than doing the same on a CNC mill..which Ive done a fair
amount of recently.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/MoogVisimetrics

I did 9 of these over the last couple months....


Your skills certainly far exceed mine of 30 years ago. But the Lucas
infection is insidious. It infects starters, generators, the horn,
everything. One of my favorites from 30 years ago - hit the bright
lights button on the floor and the lights short out. It left me going
110+ on a county road at night. Twas exciting.

Karl



He'll almost certainly be needing some replacement wiring harness smoke
as shown on this page http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html




While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner


I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.

Karl


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Den 27-07-2011 13:47, David Billington skrev:
Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:51:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:44:06 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G
Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl
Worst comes to worst..I can simply rewire the entire beasty. Its much
easier to do than doing the same on a CNC mill..which Ive done a fair
amount of recently.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/MoogVisimetrics

I did 9 of these over the last couple months....


Your skills certainly far exceed mine of 30 years ago. But the Lucas
infection is insidious. It infects starters, generators, the horn,
everything. One of my favorites from 30 years ago - hit the bright
lights button on the floor and the lights short out. It left me going
110+ on a county road at night. Twas exciting.

Karl


He'll almost certainly be needing some replacement wiring harness smoke
as shown on this page http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html



While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner


I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.


Why is it that that most people from 'across the pond' says that the
stuff on the other side sucks?

Having worked with electric stuff all my life I must admit that the
approach on either side of the pond is very different.
Different, but both sides have pro's and both sides have con's.


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On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:40:27 -0500, Karl Townsend
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:51:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:44:06 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G


Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl


Worst comes to worst..I can simply rewire the entire beasty. Its much
easier to do than doing the same on a CNC mill..which Ive done a fair
amount of recently.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/MoogVisimetrics

I did 9 of these over the last couple months....


Your skills certainly far exceed mine of 30 years ago. But the Lucas
infection is insidious. It infects starters, generators, the horn,
everything. One of my favorites from 30 years ago - hit the bright
lights button on the floor and the lights short out. It left me going
110+ on a county road at night. Twas exciting.

Karl





While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner


I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.

Karl


The Royal Enfield may..may be convertable to 12vt simply by changing a
bit of wiring on the alternator according to the boys on the RE site.
Then I can put in a zener diode or an aftermarket voltage regulator,
then simply add all non Lucas stuff I want.

Lucas, Prince of Darkness

Gunner

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On 2011-07-30, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:40:27 -0500, Karl Townsend
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[ ... ]

I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.


You know -- I don't remember any serious problems with the Lucas
electrics in my MGAs (1957 and 1961 IIRC). But then, I was an
electronics technician, and knew how to repair things, so it perhaps was
sufficiently cowed. :-)

The only electrical thing which gave frequent problems was the
fuel pump, which was SU, not Lucas.

[ ... ]

The Royal Enfield may..may be convertable to 12vt simply by changing a


Only two dots between the repeated words instead of your usual
three? Does this mean that you are more, or less certain? :-)

bit of wiring on the alternator according to the boys on the RE site.
Then I can put in a zener diode or an aftermarket voltage regulator,
then simply add all non Lucas stuff I want.


A question occurs to me. Does the R.E. have an electric starter,
or is it purely kick start? If the former, you may need to rewire that
too. Maybe rewind it with more turns of lighter gauge wire.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:30:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:40:27 -0500, Karl Townsend
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:51:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:44:06 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G


Good on ya!

As I've said before, now you've got two machines with Lucas wiring.
Your weekends will be full from now on. Voice of experience here. In
my youth I owned both a Triumph bike and a Triumph car. One of my best
friends had an MGB. All decent machines EXCEPT for the wiring and
electrical components. Its very hard to diagnose when you got several
flaky intermittent problems at once and don't have the funds to just
chuck it all.

Karl

Worst comes to worst..I can simply rewire the entire beasty. Its much
easier to do than doing the same on a CNC mill..which Ive done a fair
amount of recently.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/MoogVisimetrics

I did 9 of these over the last couple months....


Your skills certainly far exceed mine of 30 years ago. But the Lucas
infection is insidious. It infects starters, generators, the horn,
everything. One of my favorites from 30 years ago - hit the bright
lights button on the floor and the lights short out. It left me going
110+ on a county road at night. Twas exciting.

Karl





While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner


I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.

Karl


The Royal Enfield may..may be convertable to 12vt simply by changing a
bit of wiring on the alternator according to the boys on the RE site.
Then I can put in a zener diode or an aftermarket voltage regulator,
then simply add all non Lucas stuff I want.

Lucas, Prince of Darkness

Gunner


Good plan to replace the voltage regulator. Another one of the many
failures was the voltage regulator sticking on. It burnt up the
generator and boiled the battery. It would have been nice to have had
an ampmeter, but that had failed earlier.

I'm surprised you said alternator. The brits stuck with generators far
longer than this side of the pond.

Karl

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While Im waiting..I pulled the fuel tank on the Royal Enfield last
night..the valves are leaking rather badly..50 yr old felt seals..and I
covered them in a very oily solvent..and hopefully they swell enough to
seal. Im not sure how to replace the felt...


Gunner


I do envy you, these old machines are a blast to ride. In case you
haven't heard me yet. Lucas SUCKS.

Karl


The Royal Enfield may..may be convertable to 12vt simply by changing a
bit of wiring on the alternator according to the boys on the RE site.
Then I can put in a zener diode or an aftermarket voltage regulator,
then simply add all non Lucas stuff I want.

Lucas, Prince of Darkness


Any relation to Phil, "Prince of Insufficient Lighting"?

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On Jul 26, 3:58*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#

Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G

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Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.


The dogs will go nuts waiting for their turn in the side car.
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:09:01 -0700 (PDT), "Denis G."
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On Jul 26, 3:58*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#

Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G

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Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath.
Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.


The dogs will go nuts waiting for their turn in the side car.


Ayup! The ex hates riding on motorcycles..and Im sure she will hate the
side hack..so its gonna be the dogs G

Gunner

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G


From the sound of it, both of you are going "Yay! I'm trading that old
unused thing for something I _really_ want". Which is, of course, the
essence of a good deal.

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:28:27 -0500, Tim Wescott
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:58:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yayyy!!!!

I swapped this.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/HardingeTFB

for this

https://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch/Trumpet#


Yahooo!!!

Now I only have to wait a few weeks until he can get here with his
Trumpet..and I can load the Hardinge for him. G


From the sound of it, both of you are going "Yay! I'm trading that old
unused thing for something I _really_ want". Which is, of course, the
essence of a good deal.


Indeed. Now when we do the swap..and start digging in..the cursing will
probably start. But Im giving him a good but incredibly ugly lathe..so I
hope the bike is in similar condition. Ive bought Pretty crap
before...shrug.

Gunner

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