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You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled.
The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:07:43 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. I won't. Where's Jesse Ventura when you need him? The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. I'm waiting to read in the newspapers how Gunner's Great Cull has finally started. It's amazing how the American public has become so complacent as to allow this to continue happening. Locke had it right. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/reese.asp From Survival Monkey: Unintended Consequences, by John Ross 1996 ISBN: (978)1-888118-04-01 Link to FREE .pdf version: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11793519/U...d-Consequences Link to the .pdf on SM Downloads: http://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/downloads.php On Amazon it sells for more than $100 used. Brief synopsis by Brokor: "Excellent combination of historical fiction and political thriller, this work chronicles the deterioration of gun rights in the United States by following a family through the 20th century. Included are detailed fictionalized accounts of the Ruby Ridge massacre, the FBI shootout in Miami in 1986, and the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising of World War II. The book then moves to the present day, describing a rouge government agency that attempts to criminalize legal gun owners, and armed resistance breaks out. Not for the faint of heart, this book is violently and sexually graphic, and its message will be objectionable to most. But it presents an interesting thought exercise--were the Founding Fathers serious when they established the 2nd amendment as a means of citizens defending themselves in the face of tyranny? And if so, what would that look like in the 21st century?" HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AND ENTERTAINING READ. __________________ "Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience." - John Locke Read mo http://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/...#ixzz1SB7aqbEx -- Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace. -- Robert J. Sawyer |
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On Jul 15, 8:07*am, Karl Townsend
wrote: ...Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl There's an alarming precedent for Midsummer midnight madness. On the night of August 4, 1789 the newly elected and inexperienced French National Assembly pulled a drunken all-nighter and changed all the laws: http://www.historywiz.com/nightofaug4.htm Chaos ensued. A bas le roi!! jsw |
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... On Jul 15, 8:07 am, Karl Townsend wrote: ...Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl There's an alarming precedent for Midsummer midnight madness. On the night of August 4, 1789 the newly elected and inexperienced French National Assembly pulled a drunken all-nighter and changed all the laws: http://www.historywiz.com/nightofaug4.htm Chaos ensued. A bas le roi!! Laissez les bons temps rouler! -- Ed Huntress jsw |
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On Jul 15, 10:18*am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
... Laissez les bons temps rouler! Ed Huntress The mindset that doomed New Orleans. |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:14:49 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:07:43 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. I won't. Where's Jesse Ventura when you need him? Jesse was a kook, but his two top ideas would have solved the problem. 1. term limits 2. unicameral legislature |
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... On Jul 15, 10:18 am, "Ed Huntress" wrote: ... Laissez les bons temps rouler! Ed Huntress The mindset that doomed New Orleans. But it sure was fun while it lasted -- which is all that I think we can ask for. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Jul 15, 12:35*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message On Jul 15, 10:18 am, "Ed Huntress" wrote: ... Laissez les bons temps rouler! Ed Huntress The mindset that doomed New Orleans. But it sure was fun while it lasted -- which is all that I think we can ask for. Ed Huntress I've never been closer than Shreveport, though my father almost became a shrimp boat outfitter in Lake Charles. My time in Heidelberg will have to substitute. Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus. jsw |
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On 7/15/2011 7:07 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. David |
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On 2011-07-15, David R. Birch wrote:
On 7/15/2011 7:07 AM, Karl Townsend wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i |
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On Jul 15, 7:22*pm, Ignoramus15061 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15061.invalid wrote: ... I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i- Have you tried their Genuine Draft? Karl Strauss Amber Lager is made from the old Andeker recipe. Draft (but not bottled) Andeker in Milwaukee was the best beer I've tasted outside of Muenchen. jsw |
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On Jul 15, 7:22*pm, Ignoramus15061 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15061.invalid wrote: I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i An old story is that Ballentine Beer wanted a new slogan. And decided to have a contest to find the new slogan. After much searching they decided on a slogan suggested by a young man. " Ballentine Beer is like love in a canoe." In my opinion Miller could use the same slogan for Miller Lite. Dan |
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wrote in message ... On Jul 15, 7:22 pm, Ignoramus15061 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM. 15061.invalid wrote: I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i An old story is that Ballentine Beer wanted a new slogan. And decided to have a contest to find the new slogan. After much searching they decided on a slogan suggested by a young man. " Ballentine Beer is like love in a canoe." In my opinion Miller could use the same slogan for Miller Lite. Dan I'd always heard that was for (spit) Coors Lite. "****in' near water", right? Garrett Fulton |
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On Jul 15, 9:04*pm, "Garrett Fulton" wrote:
I'd always heard that was for (spit) Coors Lite. *"****in' near water", right? Garrett Fulton I knew someone would have heard the story. Dan |
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On 7/15/2011 6:22 PM, Ignoramus15061 wrote:
Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. To me, Miller Lite is like a bad beer with an ice cube allowed to melt in it. If that were all I could drink, I'd stop drinking beer. David |
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On 7/16/2011 4:36 AM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 7/15/2011 6:22 PM, Ignoramus15061 wrote: Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. To me, Miller Lite is like a bad beer with an ice cube allowed to melt in it. If that were all I could drink, I'd stop drinking beer. David this is very refreshing - people arguing about beer rather than politics. very much an improvement -- www.wbnoble.com |
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"Ignoramus15061" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-15, David R. Birch wrote: On 7/15/2011 7:07 AM, Karl Townsend wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i Although I appreciate the beer you gave me when I was out there, if I see you next month when I head for Aurora, I'm bringing a sixpack of Beck's. g Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. -- Ed Huntress |
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The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i Although I appreciate the beer you gave me when I was out there, if I see you next month when I head for Aurora, I'm bringing a sixpack of Beck's.g Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. one of my favorites is "old dead guy" - and Piraat -- www.wbnoble.com |
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"Bill Noble" wrote in message ... O The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i Although I appreciate the beer you gave me when I was out there, if I see you next month when I head for Aurora, I'm bringing a sixpack of Beck's.g Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. one of my favorites is "old dead guy" - and Piraat -- www.wbnoble.com I know....I should bring along some of New Jersey's finest, River Horse Hop-A-Lot-Amus. Brewed on the banks of the Delaware River. g http://www.riverhorse.com/ -- Ed Huntress |
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On Jul 16, 12:16*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
... Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. Ed Huntress- I remember it as good but not exceptional. At the Oktoberfest I usually went to the Spaten tent. One year they sent me there with three soldiers who were being rewarded for something, officially with a week to deliver a typewriter. I was one of the few people who spoke German and could drive, or function at all off the Army base. We sat down across from four girls and I started chatting happily with the one opposite me, then noticed the other three guys and girls all sitting quietly and frowning. Turns out only the one I was talking to spoke English. We could NOT get a conversation going among the others, or get them to join the dancing and singing, Freut Euch des Lebens! What a waste! There's almost no place I'd rather be, yet they had a miserable time and wanted to go home early. The girl I talked to wondered if Americans could tune into the collective mentality of Germans having fun. Even when drunk and giggly they all cheered, sang, stood up and swayed etc in perfect unison. jsw |
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On 2011-07-16, Ed Huntress wrote:
"Ignoramus15061" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-15, David R. Birch wrote: On 7/15/2011 7:07 AM, Karl Townsend wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i Although I appreciate the beer you gave me when I was out there, if I see you next month when I head for Aurora, I'm bringing a sixpack of Beck's. g Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. OK, deal. |
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... On Jul 16, 12:16 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: ... Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. Ed Huntress- I remember it as good but not exceptional. At the Oktoberfest I usually went to the Spaten tent. By American standards, it is extremely bitter. I like it, though. One year they sent me there with three soldiers who were being rewarded for something, officially with a week to deliver a typewriter. I was one of the few people who spoke German and could drive, or function at all off the Army base. We sat down across from four girls and I started chatting happily with the one opposite me, then noticed the other three guys and girls all sitting quietly and frowning. Turns out only the one I was talking to spoke English. We could NOT get a conversation going among the others, or get them to join the dancing and singing, Freut Euch des Lebens! What a waste! There's almost no place I'd rather be, yet they had a miserable time and wanted to go home early. The girl I talked to wondered if Americans could tune into the collective mentality of Germans having fun. Even when drunk and giggly they all cheered, sang, stood up and swayed etc in perfect unison. jsw 'Sounds like fun. Speaking of having fun, the night I arrived in Lausanne, Switzerland, at around midnight (I was a student there for a year), I expected, from all I'd heard, that the town would be quiet and basically closed down. Instead, there were hundreds of half-drunk people snake-dancing in the streets, music was blaring, and the stores were open. It turns out I arrived on the night of the annual Chebrix wine festival, one of the few nights the Swiss really cut loose. I though I was in for some wild parties, but that was the last one. -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2011-07-16, Ed Huntress wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... On Jul 16, 12:16 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: ... Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. Ed Huntress- I remember it as good but not exceptional. At the Oktoberfest I usually went to the Spaten tent. By American standards, it is extremely bitter. I like it, though. Then I do not like it. I was in Germany and succumbed to German beer ads on billboards, and found their beer to somehow be great. The one I tried, was not too bitter, and tasted very good. i One year they sent me there with three soldiers who were being rewarded for something, officially with a week to deliver a typewriter. I was one of the few people who spoke German and could drive, or function at all off the Army base. We sat down across from four girls and I started chatting happily with the one opposite me, then noticed the other three guys and girls all sitting quietly and frowning. Turns out only the one I was talking to spoke English. We could NOT get a conversation going among the others, or get them to join the dancing and singing, Freut Euch des Lebens! What a waste! There's almost no place I'd rather be, yet they had a miserable time and wanted to go home early. The girl I talked to wondered if Americans could tune into the collective mentality of Germans having fun. Even when drunk and giggly they all cheered, sang, stood up and swayed etc in perfect unison. jsw 'Sounds like fun. Speaking of having fun, the night I arrived in Lausanne, Switzerland, at around midnight (I was a student there for a year), I expected, from all I'd heard, that the town would be quiet and basically closed down. Instead, there were hundreds of half-drunk people snake-dancing in the streets, music was blaring, and the stores were open. It turns out I arrived on the night of the annual Chebrix wine festival, one of the few nights the Swiss really cut loose. I though I was in for some wild parties, but that was the last one. |
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"Ignoramus29044" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-16, Ed Huntress wrote: "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... On Jul 16, 12:16 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: ... Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. Ed Huntress- I remember it as good but not exceptional. At the Oktoberfest I usually went to the Spaten tent. By American standards, it is extremely bitter. I like it, though. Then I do not like it. Based on what you've said, I was pretty sure you would not. I meant it as a joke. I'm not sure they're even importing Dinkel Acker anymore. I haven't had it for a few years. You might like River Horse, though. It's a little like Sam Adams, only sweeter. It has plenty of flavor but it's not bitter. I was in Germany and succumbed to German beer ads on billboards, and found their beer to somehow be great. The one I tried, was not too bitter, and tasted very good. They have a pretty wide range. The pilseners I've had around Fürth are some of the best beers I've ever had. -- Ed Huntress i One year they sent me there with three soldiers who were being rewarded for something, officially with a week to deliver a typewriter. I was one of the few people who spoke German and could drive, or function at all off the Army base. We sat down across from four girls and I started chatting happily with the one opposite me, then noticed the other three guys and girls all sitting quietly and frowning. Turns out only the one I was talking to spoke English. We could NOT get a conversation going among the others, or get them to join the dancing and singing, Freut Euch des Lebens! What a waste! There's almost no place I'd rather be, yet they had a miserable time and wanted to go home early. The girl I talked to wondered if Americans could tune into the collective mentality of Germans having fun. Even when drunk and giggly they all cheered, sang, stood up and swayed etc in perfect unison. jsw 'Sounds like fun. Speaking of having fun, the night I arrived in Lausanne, Switzerland, at around midnight (I was a student there for a year), I expected, from all I'd heard, that the town would be quiet and basically closed down. Instead, there were hundreds of half-drunk people snake-dancing in the streets, music was blaring, and the stores were open. It turns out I arrived on the night of the annual Chebrix wine festival, one of the few nights the Swiss really cut loose. I though I was in for some wild parties, but that was the last one. |
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"Ignoramus29044" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-16, Ed Huntress wrote: "Ignoramus15061" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-15, David R. Birch wrote: On 7/15/2011 7:07 AM, Karl Townsend wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i Although I appreciate the beer you gave me when I was out there, if I see you next month when I head for Aurora, I'm bringing a sixpack of Beck's. g Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. OK, deal. Been spending 2/3 of my time at a job in eastern Germany for the last 3 1/2 yrs. At the Leipzig/Halle Flughafen, (airport). 3 beers you guys need to try if you get over there are Leikeim, Gessner, and the lower priced one all the the east Germans drink, Ur-Krostitzer. It's all I can do to drink beer back in here in the US anymore. Hate to come across as a beer snob, but I have seen the light. The Germans have beer and sausage figured out. Big Time. Just my .02, but I'm right. Garrett Fulton |
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"Garrett Fulton" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus29044" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-16, Ed Huntress wrote: "Ignoramus15061" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-15, David R. Birch wrote: On 7/15/2011 7:07 AM, Karl Townsend wrote: You may have heard MN state gov'ment shut down. The pols just settled. The reason, beer licences had expired and many brands were due to be pulled off the shelves. Don't take our beer. The settlement is disgusting. The ultimate kick the can down the road solution. Borrow from here, there, everywhere and say now the budget is balanced. Probably a prelude to what is going to happen in DC next month. We're getting the government we deserve. Karl Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. i Although I appreciate the beer you gave me when I was out there, if I see you next month when I head for Aurora, I'm bringing a sixpack of Beck's. g Or maybe some Dinkel Acker. That will make your tongue roll up like a windowshade and your ears will flap like a hummingbird's wings. OK, deal. Been spending 2/3 of my time at a job in eastern Germany for the last 3 1/2 yrs. At the Leipzig/Halle Flughafen, (airport). 3 beers you guys need to try if you get over there are Leikeim, Gessner, and the lower priced one all the the east Germans drink, Ur-Krostitzer. It's all I can do to drink beer back in here in the US anymore. Hate to come across as a beer snob, but I have seen the light. The Germans have beer and sausage figured out. Big Time. Just my .02, but I'm right. Garrett Fulton I agree. I carry my Beck's out of the store in a brown paper bag. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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"Bill Noble" wrote in message ... On 7/16/2011 4:36 AM, David R. Birch wrote: On 7/15/2011 6:22 PM, Ignoramus15061 wrote: Miller sent in a check for their Mn state license, but the check was more than required, so the licensing board sent it back. Before they could process the new check, the state shut down, so Miller couldn't sell product. NBD, life is too short to drink cheap beer. I cannot drink any beer besides Miller lite. The more expensive is the beer, the more vile and disgusting the taste, as far as I am concerned. I am going to stock up on Miller Lite now. To me, Miller Lite is like a bad beer with an ice cube allowed to melt in it. If that were all I could drink, I'd stop drinking beer. David this is very refreshing - people arguing about beer rather than politics. very much an improvement American pilsener isn't beer IMO. -- |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:07:31 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: Did you know 100 years ago, they turned you into an alcoholic if you got diabetis? Wiskey has no carbs at all and it has calories. Yes. Until the late 1920s, the standard diet was dry red wine and burned toast. No kidding. Then you lived for a little while, fading away to nothing, but with one heck of a jag on. That actually doesn't sound all bad. |
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"Don Foreman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:07:31 -0400, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Did you know 100 years ago, they turned you into an alcoholic if you got diabetis? Wiskey has no carbs at all and it has calories. Yes. Until the late 1920s, the standard diet was dry red wine and burned toast. No kidding. Then you lived for a little while, fading away to nothing, but with one heck of a jag on. That actually doesn't sound all bad. I guess there are worse ways to go, but having once had a blood glucose level of 700, nearly blind and slipping into a coma, it wouldn't be my first choice, either. -- Ed Huntress |
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