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On Jun 22, 7:30*pm, "Bob La Londe" wrote:
I was just looking at an old Sportman's Guide catalog before tossing it in
the trash. *One item that caught my eye was a .223 adaptor to use a 209
primer to launch a .22 caliber air gun pellet. *What kind of energy is that
going to develop? *What kind of muzzle velocity will that generate? *It
might be a nice way to practice pulling the trigger and get some short range
target practice with your bolt action .223, although I would be hesitant to
use it in an auto.

The thing though is they advertise it for pest control. *Seems to me for
short range even a pump air gun would be far more economical. *As a kid I
killed a lot of gophers for the bounty with my Daisy 880. *Spring piston
guns are so mush more powerful, and now with the gas spring guns on the
market for a few years you don't have to worry about leaving them ready to
flip the safety and fire killing the spring.

Not even considering the PCP guns. *How does this 209 primer propelled ..22
pellet compare to a pellet fired out of a pellet gun?


Growing up in the 1960s we would use a CB 22 cartage which was a 22
short bullet and a primer. It was quit a bit more powerful than my
Crossman 760 pump but not as powerful as my Sheraton 5 mm pump.

Gentlemen Farmer I work with is reports killing Coyotes with 22 spring
gun shooting heavy pellets. Coyotes were in the hen house.
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On Jun 22, 7:30 pm, "Bob La Londe" wrote:
I was just looking at an old Sportman's Guide catalog before tossing it in
the trash. One item that caught my eye was a .223 adaptor to use a 209
primer to launch a .22 caliber air gun pellet. What kind of energy is that
going to develop? What kind of muzzle velocity will that generate? It
might be a nice way to practice pulling the trigger and get some short
range
target practice with your bolt action .223, although I would be hesitant
to
use it in an auto.

The thing though is they advertise it for pest control. Seems to me for
short range even a pump air gun would be far more economical. As a kid I
killed a lot of gophers for the bounty with my Daisy 880. Spring piston
guns are so mush more powerful, and now with the gas spring guns on the
market for a few years you don't have to worry about leaving them ready to
flip the safety and fire killing the spring.

Not even considering the PCP guns. How does this 209 primer propelled .22
pellet compare to a pellet fired out of a pellet gun?


Growing up in the 1960s we would use a CB 22 cartage which was a 22
short bullet and a primer. It was quit a bit more powerful than my
Crossman 760 pump but not as powerful as my Sheraton 5 mm pump.

Gentlemen Farmer I work with is reports killing Coyotes with 22 spring
gun shooting heavy pellets. Coyotes were in the hen house.


I think you'll find that the CB cap actually contained a small amount of
powder. The one with primer only was the BB cap, which we could still get
from the UK when I was a kid in the late '50s. I think they were gone a few
years after that, but CB caps continued (and may still be around -- I
haven't looked).

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Ed Huntress


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