On Jun 18, 10:32*pm, CaveLamb wrote:

Quote above:
* TI had already spent millions developing machinery and techniques for
* working with silicon,

The money for a lot of THAT research is what the guys are talking about.

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But then they are wrong. Texas Instruments was primarily a company
that made equipment for finding oil. When the transistor was invented
at AT&T, Texas Instruments realized that while the transistors were
very limited in power and frequency, they were a lot better than the
vacuum tubes TI was using in seismograph equipment. And they went
into the transistor business. At this time there was not a lot of
money from the military because it was just after WWII. The sorts of
things that paid for research were things like the transistor radio.
And as transistors improved they could be used in more things. So
money was spent in researching how to improve transistors. Not much
government money was spent in " developing machinery and techniques
for working with silicon ".

Dan

wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:32 pm, CaveLamb wrote:

Quote above:
TI had already spent millions developing machinery and techniques for
working with silicon,

The money for a lot of THAT research is what the guys are talking about.

--

Richard Lambhttp://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelambhttp://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

But then they are wrong. Texas Instruments was primarily a company
that made equipment for finding oil. When the transistor was invented
at AT&T, Texas Instruments realized that while the transistors were
very limited in power and frequency, they were a lot better than the
vacuum tubes TI was using in seismograph equipment. And they went
into the transistor business. At this time there was not a lot of
money from the military because it was just after WWII. The sorts of
things that paid for research were things like the transistor radio.
And as transistors improved they could be used in more things. So
money was spent in researching how to improve transistors. Not much
government money was spent in " developing machinery and techniques
for working with silicon ".

Dan



BACK UP A STEP, PLEASE?



A Brief History of Texas Instruments

The company was established in Texas in 1930 as Geophysical Services by Clarence
Karcher en Eugene McDermott. Until World War II its main activity was soil
analysis for oil companies in the U.S. and the Middle East. Then it's main
customer became the U.S. Army, for which it made radar installations.



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Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

On Jun 19, 2:43*am, CaveLamb wrote:

BACK UP A STEP, PLEASE?

A Brief History of Texas Instruments

The company was established in Texas in 1930 as Geophysical Services by Clarence
Karcher en Eugene McDermott. Until World War II its main activity was soil
analysis for oil companies in the U.S. and the Middle East. Then it's main
customer became the U.S. Army, for which it made radar installations.

Somehow I do not think there was a big market for radar installations
immediately after WWII. The transistor was not invented until 1947.
So I am pretty sure that TI's main customers were not the military
when it started making transistors. Transistors were not used much in
radars for some time. All the radars I worked on while in the Navy
had no transistors.

Dan

On 6/19/2011 7:00 AM, wrote:
On Jun 19, 2:43 am, wrote:

BACK UP A STEP, PLEASE?

A Brief History of Texas Instruments

The company was established in Texas in 1930 as Geophysical Services by Clarence
Karcher en Eugene McDermott. Until World War II its main activity was soil
analysis for oil companies in the U.S. and the Middle East. Then it's main
customer became the U.S. Army, for which it made radar installations.

Somehow I do not think there was a big market for radar installations
immediately after WWII. The transistor was not invented until 1947.
So I am pretty sure that TI's main customers were not the military
when it started making transistors. Transistors were not used much in
radars for some time. All the radars I worked on while in the Navy
had no transistors.

Dan

TI's first volume customer was Regency radio.

http://www.regencytr1.com/Regency_Early_Years.html

Kevin Gallimore

CaveLamb wrote:

Dan,

I'm going to leave you now with two words - prior art.

NOTHING is invented out of thin air.

No that is incorrect
In the Usenet universe EVERYTHING is invented out of thin air

wrote:
On Jun 19, 2:43 am, wrote:

BACK UP A STEP, PLEASE?

A Brief History of Texas Instruments

The company was established in Texas in 1930 as Geophysical Services by Clarence
Karcher en Eugene McDermott. Until World War II its main activity was soil
analysis for oil companies in the U.S. and the Middle East. Then it's main
customer became the U.S. Army, for which it made radar installations.

Somehow I do not think there was a big market for radar installations
immediately after WWII. The transistor was not invented until 1947.
So I am pretty sure that TI's main customers were not the military
when it started making transistors. Transistors were not used much in
radars for some time. All the radars I worked on while in the Navy
had no transistors.

Dan
There weren't any in the CPS 6B in 1952-3 either. :-)
...lew...

jim wrote:

CaveLamb wrote:

Dan,

I'm going to leave you now with two words - prior art.

NOTHING is invented out of thin air.

No that is incorrect
In the Usenet universe EVERYTHING is invented out of thin air

Don't you mean "HOT air"?

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Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress