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engineman June 15th 11 06:43 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman

Tim Wescott June 15th 11 07:01 PM

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On 06/15/2011 10:43 AM, engineman wrote:
A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.


Have-a-heart trap, a good sharp knife, and a recipe book?

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

[email protected] June 15th 11 07:02 PM

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On Jun 15, 1:43*pm, engineman wrote:

What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?


Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


The first thing is to be sure there is no food around for them. So
check for dog or cat food near by. It is possible he has a neighbor
that is feeding them.

My neighbor used to use a trap ( large hav-a-hart ) and then release
them several miles away. Some came back anyway, and other coons moved
into the neighborhood. I think you need to take them at least 10
miles away to be reasonably sure they will not return. He borrowed
the trap from some county office. Maybe animal control.

Dan


Jim Stewart June 15th 11 07:10 PM

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wrote:
On Jun 15, 1:43 pm, wrote:

What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?


Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


The first thing is to be sure there is no food around for them. So
check for dog or cat food near by. It is possible he has a neighbor
that is feeding them.

My neighbor used to use a trap ( large hav-a-hart ) and then release
them several miles away. Some came back anyway, and other coons moved
into the neighborhood. I think you need to take them at least 10
miles away to be reasonably sure they will not return. He borrowed
the trap from some county office. Maybe animal control.


I did that and it worked. Took them
over the hill to the next creek.

Cross-Slide June 15th 11 07:11 PM

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On Jun 15, 12:43*pm, engineman wrote:
A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


Golden Malrin fly bait. Mixed into pop. Put it in a dish for them to
drink.
They will be dead at the dish, they will not get three steps away
before they are DEAD!


Doug Miller[_2_] June 15th 11 07:54 PM

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In article , Cross-Slide wrote:
On Jun 15, 12:43=A0pm, engineman wrote:
A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


Golden Malrin fly bait. Mixed into pop. Put it in a dish for them to
drink.
They will be dead at the dish, they will not get three steps away
before they are DEAD!


Well, probably not quite exactly like that....
http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/sho...d.php?t=316671


Josepi[_19_] June 16th 11 12:54 AM

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Many recipes but they are mostly the same.

Get a bottle of Tabasco sauce or a small can of Cayenne pepper. Put it in
about a gallon of water and maybe bring to a boil for a bit, if powdered
pepper. Add a few drops of dish detergent to make it stick and be more
slippery.

Put in a spray bottle and spray it where you don`t want them to go. It can
last up to a month.

OR

Buy a bottle of commercial spray that contains roughly the same things for
about $20.

Or

Find some coyote urine and spray it around

-----------------

"engineman" wrote in message
...

A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


Josepi[_19_] June 16th 11 12:57 AM

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One crapped on my deck for about two months now. The shot stains the wood so
bad and you can`t get it out. Good thing we didn`t kill the neighbours cat
before we saw the beggar in the swale and realized what it was! It was
close!

See my recipe in another post for a spray that worked instantly for me. Four
nights in a row now.

----------------

"engineman" wrote in message
...

A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


Larry Jaques[_4_] June 16th 11 01:50 AM

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT), engineman
wrote:

A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.


He can cut down the trees directly in contact with his trailer. They
can't get on the roof without a tree. (Or a trellis. Move it out 4')


What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.


Borrow a trap from the local Animal Control office. They'll come pick
up if you trap the critters, at least around here. I believe they
relocate them to distant woods.


Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.


Mothballs don't work, either. He might get a SuperSoaker and fill it
with ammonia water and spray it directly on the critter. Vinegar water
might teach them to stay away, too.

--
Happiness is when what you think, what
you say, and what you do are in harmony.
-- Mahatma Gandhi

Spehro Pefhany June 16th 11 02:02 AM

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT), the renowned engineman
wrote:

A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman


I've trapped a bunch alive and released them far (at least 7 miles)
away, with some freeways and other linear barriers between. Bait was a
can tuna (open, obviously). Drowning them is an alternative to
releasing them where they'd be someone else's problem.

The big ones can be quite bold and nasty, particularly if you have
their babies.

They're quite clever and dexterous too- if you use the Have-a-heart
(Home Despot) traps be sure to weight the trap down so they can't
easily rattle it from outside and trigger the door. IIRC, Harbor
Fright has clones of the traps.

Supposedly, mothballs repel them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Stormin Mormon June 16th 11 02:24 AM

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Havahart trap. Then, gas the critter with auto exhaust, and
dump it on the far side of town.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"engineman" wrote in message
...
A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is
having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at
night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified
of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem
to do any
good.

Engineman



Stormin Mormon June 16th 11 02:25 AM

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Tim, you are a good man. I have had racoon before, much like
turkey dark meat.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...

Have-a-heart trap, a good sharp knife, and a recipe book?

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written
for you.
See details at
http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html



Stormin Mormon June 16th 11 02:28 AM

'Coons.....OT
 
Did the people seven miles away curse your ancestors, and
bring the coons back?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Spehro Pefhany" wrote
in message
...

I've trapped a bunch alive and released them far (at least 7
miles)
away, with some freeways and other linear barriers between.
Bait was a
can tuna (open, obviously). Drowning them is an alternative
to
releasing them where they'd be someone else's problem.

The big ones can be quite bold and nasty, particularly if
you have
their babies.

They're quite clever and dexterous too- if you use the
Have-a-heart
(Home Despot) traps be sure to weight the trap down so they
can't
easily rattle it from outside and trigger the door. IIRC,
Harbor
Fright has clones of the traps.

Supposedly, mothballs repel them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey
is the reward"
Info for manufacturers:
http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers:
http://www.speff.com



Bob Engelhardt June 16th 11 02:34 AM

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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Havahart trap. Then, gas the critter with auto exhaust, and
dump it on the far side of town.


I've found CO2 to be much faster, and quieter. Bob

Frank J Warner June 16th 11 03:49 AM

'Coons.....OT
 
In article
,
engineman wrote:

A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.

Engineman



Why does everyone feel the need to kill?

Try this. It works:

http://www.critter-repellent.com/rac...-repellent.php

Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.sharpbywarner.com

Spehro Pefhany June 16th 11 04:32 AM

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:28:33 -0400, the renowned "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Did the people seven miles away curse your ancestors, and
bring the coons back?


Due to my deep faith in human nature, naturally I assume they probably
delivered them in the first place.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Stormin Mormon June 16th 11 08:42 PM

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Thanks, that's a good idea. Sadly, I don't have any carbon
dioxide cylinders. I do have two vehicles.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in
message ...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Havahart trap. Then, gas the critter with auto exhaust,
and
dump it on the far side of town.


I've found CO2 to be much faster, and quieter. Bob



Stormin Mormon June 22nd 11 12:36 PM

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I await some details of how this (find some coyote urine) is
done.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Josepi" wrote in message
...

Find some coyote urine and spray it around




Stormin Mormon June 22nd 11 12:57 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
That's mankind's job on the planet. Manage the animal
populations, by environment, breeding, and the occasional
population reduction.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Frank J Warner" wrote in
message
news:150620111949369064%warnerf@veriSPAMMERSDIEzon .net...

Shooting is out of the question.

Engineman



Why does everyone feel the need to kill?




Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] June 22nd 11 01:18 PM

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"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley in
:

Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Stormy, some folks actually suffer losses at the claws and teeth of
marauding wildlife.

Killing isn't always its own reward, but it positively ends the threat from
a single animal; "pack" and highly social animals respond strongly to
having one of their crew killed -- they tend to avoid the place it
happened, afterwards.

LLoyd

Spehro Pefhany June 22nd 11 01:20 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:36:31 -0400, the renowned "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I await some details of how this (find some coyote urine) is
done.


Same way you find just about anything these days:
http://www.predatorpee.com/


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Ignoramus3171 June 22nd 11 03:01 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On 2011-06-15, engineman wrote:
A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.


Just a little tip. If you shoot from inside a building, through an
open window of course, preferably standing farther from the window,
then the shooting sound is very muffled and it does not even quite
sound like a gunshot.

What I am getting at, is that if you fire a .22 rifle from inside your
mobile home, your neighbors probably will not even notice.

Condition them a little bit by doing some fireworks at random moments,
running runaway diesel engines without mufflers, etc and you will be
all set.

i

steamer June 22nd 11 06:04 PM

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--Don't just pour ammonia on the ground; soak a towel in the stuff,
wad it up and throw it under the house where it can 'vent' for a spell..

--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Steel, Stainless, Titanium:
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : Guaranteed Uncertified Welding!
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

Too_Many_Tools June 22nd 11 08:06 PM

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On Jun 15, 1:11*pm, Cross-Slide wrote:
On Jun 15, 12:43*pm, engineman wrote:

A friend who lives in a mobilehome at the edge of town is having
problems with racoons.
Other than eating up his plants and keeping him awake at night
frolicking around on his roof, his girlfriend is terrified of them.
What are some methods he could use to get rid of them?
Shooting is out of the question.
Someone told him to try ammonia but he says it doesn't seem to do any
good.


Engineman


Golden Malrin fly bait. Mixed into pop. Put it in a dish for them to
drink.
They will be dead at the dish, they will not get three steps away
before they are DEAD!


Setting poison out is a great way to end up in jail.

Especially when the neighbor's kids drink it.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools June 22nd 11 08:08 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On Jun 22, 6:57*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
That's mankind's job on the planet. Manage the animal
populations, by environment, breeding, and the occasional
population reduction.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Frank J Warner" wrote in
messagenews:150620111949369064%warnerf@veriSPAMMER SDIEzon.net...

Shooting is out of the question.


Engineman


Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Only the stupid ones feel the need to kill.

Smart people solve the problem without violence.

The raccoons are there because of a food source..eliminate that and
they will leave.

TMT

TMT

Too_Many_Tools June 22nd 11 08:09 PM

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On Jun 22, 7:18*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley :

Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Stormy, some folks actually suffer losses at the claws and teeth of
marauding wildlife.

Killing isn't always its own reward, but it positively ends the threat from
a single animal; "pack" and highly social animals respond strongly to
having one of their crew killed -- they tend to avoid the place it
happened, afterwards.

LLoyd


Prove that to me.

TMT

[email protected] June 22nd 11 09:08 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On Jun 22, 1:09*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jun 22, 7:18*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley :


Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Stormy, some folks actually suffer losses at the claws and teeth of
marauding wildlife.


Killing isn't always its own reward, but it positively ends the threat from
a single animal; "pack" and highly social animals respond strongly to
having one of their crew killed -- they tend to avoid the place it
happened, afterwards.


LLoyd


Prove that to me.

TMT


A dead coon isn't likely to return to raid the garden plot... "Take
away the food source" isn't going to work in that case, my sister
depends on canning the veggies for the rest of the year. A coon can
ruin a whole lot of ripe corn in a night. They end up trapping 20-30
a year, spray them with an orange stripe before relocation. Repeaters
get executed.

Coons carry distemper and flea-borne diseases, not so great for pets,
there's not a lot of natural predators around, either.

Stan

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] June 22nd 11 11:24 PM

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Too_Many_Tools fired this volley in
:

Prove that to me.


OK, but first you need to have friends.

Then, we'll kill you in a spot they and you frequent.

I'll bet they don't hang out there as long anymore.

But first, you need to have friends.

I suspect you don't.

So I guess proving it to you is out of the question.

LLoyd

RogerN June 23rd 11 11:37 AM

'Coons.....OT
 

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jun 22, 6:57 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
That's mankind's job on the planet. Manage the animal
populations, by environment, breeding, and the occasional
population reduction.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Frank J Warner" wrote in
messagenews:150620111949369064%warnerf@veriSPAMMER SDIEzon.net...

Shooting is out of the question.


Engineman


Why does everyone feel the need to kill?

\
\Only the stupid ones feel the need to kill.
\
\Smart people solve the problem without violence.
\
\The raccoons are there because of a food source..eliminate that and
\they will leave.
\
\TMT

Fine example of liberalism, Killing Raccoons is wrong and stupid. Killing
baby humans is OK, no problem.

So, self proclaimed "smart" person, how do you solve the problem of a
woman's right to choose without killing the life that is inside her?

RogerN



Jeff R.[_3_] June 23rd 11 01:08 PM

'Coons.....OT
 

"RogerN" wrote in message
m...

Fine example of liberalism, Killing Raccoons is wrong and stupid. Killing
baby humans is OK, no problem.

So, self proclaimed "smart" person, how do you solve the problem of a
woman's right to choose without killing the life that is inside her?

RogerN



Probably in a similar fashion to the way that religious folk rationalise the
slaughter of innocents as commanded in the holy books.

....and don't forget, your "god" is the most prolific abortionist in the
history of mankind.

--
Jeff R.




Jim Wilkins June 23rd 11 01:09 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On Jun 22, 10:01*am, Ignoramus3171
wrote:
...
Just a little tip. If you shoot from inside a building, through an
open window of course, preferably standing farther from the window,
then the shooting sound is very muffled and it does not even quite
sound like a gunshot.

What I am getting at, is that if you fire a .22 rifle from inside your
mobile home, your neighbors probably will not even notice.

Condition them a little bit by doing some fireworks at random moments,
running runaway diesel engines without mufflers, etc and you will be
all set.

i


Russian snayper tactics?

Do you have the camoflaged folding fan to conceal your position?


[email protected] June 23rd 11 01:12 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On Jun 22, 1:40*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Living "in town", I'm a bit limited as to shooting. The
management has a Havahart trap. They move and release
woodchuck, probably put them in the area that brought them
over here, in the first place.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

wrote in message

...

A dead coon isn't likely to return to raid the garden
plot... *"Take
away the food source" isn't going to work in that case, my
sister
depends on canning the veggies for the rest of the year. *A
coon can
ruin a whole lot of ripe corn in a night. *They end up
trapping 20-30
a year, spray them with an orange stripe before relocation.
Repeaters
get executed.

Coons carry distemper and flea-borne diseases, not so great
for pets,
there's not a lot of natural predators around, either.

Stan


Rabies too.
Karl

Jim Wilkins June 23rd 11 02:01 PM

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On Jun 23, 8:12*am, " wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:40*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
...
Coons carry distemper and flea-borne diseases, not so great
for pets,
there's not a lot of natural predators around, either.


Stan


Rabies too.
Karl-


And Lyme disease:
http://www.illinoisraccoonremoval.info/

jsw

Too_Many_Tools June 23rd 11 05:46 PM

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On Jun 22, 3:08*pm, wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:09*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:





On Jun 22, 7:18*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"


lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley :


Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Stormy, some folks actually suffer losses at the claws and teeth of
marauding wildlife.


Killing isn't always its own reward, but it positively ends the threat from
a single animal; "pack" and highly social animals respond strongly to
having one of their crew killed -- they tend to avoid the place it
happened, afterwards.


LLoyd


Prove that to me.


TMT


A dead coon isn't likely to return to raid the garden plot... *"Take
away the food source" isn't going to work in that case, my sister
depends on canning the veggies for the rest of the year. *A coon can
ruin a whole lot of ripe corn in a night. *They end up trapping 20-30
a year, spray them with an orange stripe before relocation. *Repeaters
get executed.

Coons carry distemper and flea-borne diseases, not so great for pets,
there's not a lot of natural predators around, either.

Stan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your sister needs to invest in a fence.

The repeaters mean that the relocation was not done properly.

Coons do not carry diseases any more than you do.

They are very clean creatures.

They make excellent pets if raised from birth by humans.

Not knowing your location, I cannot judge the predator load they have.

Car traffic is a major "predator".

Again...remove the food source and they will move on.

One cannot blame them for taking advantage of easy food...humans eat
at McDonalds all the time and we don't shoot them.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools June 23rd 11 05:47 PM

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On Jun 22, 5:24*pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Too_Many_Tools fired this volley :

Prove that to me.


OK, but first you need to have friends.

Then, we'll kill you in a spot they and you frequent.

I'll bet they don't hang out there as long anymore.

But first, you need to have friends.

I suspect you don't.

So I guess proving it to you is out of the question.

LLoyd


So in other words you cannot prove it.

Thought so.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools June 23rd 11 06:27 PM

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On Jun 22, 6:37*pm, " wrote:
On Jun 22, 3:08*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:





On Jun 22, 6:57*am, "Stormin Mormon"


wrote:
That's mankind's job on the planet. Manage the animal
populations, by environment, breeding, and the occasional
population reduction.


--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.


"Frank J Warner" wrote in
messagenews:150620111949369064%warnerf@veriSPAMMER SDIEzon.net...


Shooting is out of the question.


Engineman


Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Only the stupid ones feel the need to kill.


Smart people solve the problem without violence.


The raccoons are there because of a food source..eliminate that and
they will leave.


TMT


TMT


So you are saying it is better to starve the coons?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Dan- Hide quoted text -

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Coons like any other animal including humans will capitalize on easy
resources like food.

Every watch people at a free eat all you want buffet?

If people will properly set up their gardens and store their trash,
wildlife move on to their normal food sources in nature.

Any person with common sense involved in the outdoors can see this.

Those who can't ARE the problem...not the animals.

TMT

Ed Huntress June 23rd 11 07:05 PM

'Coons.....OT
 

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jun 22, 3:08 pm, wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:09 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:





On Jun 22, 7:18 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"


lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" fired this
volley :


Why does everyone feel the need to kill?


Stormy, some folks actually suffer losses at the claws and teeth of
marauding wildlife.


Killing isn't always its own reward, but it positively ends the threat
from
a single animal; "pack" and highly social animals respond strongly to
having one of their crew killed -- they tend to avoid the place it
happened, afterwards.


LLoyd


Prove that to me.


TMT


A dead coon isn't likely to return to raid the garden plot... "Take
away the food source" isn't going to work in that case, my sister
depends on canning the veggies for the rest of the year. A coon can
ruin a whole lot of ripe corn in a night. They end up trapping 20-30
a year, spray them with an orange stripe before relocation. Repeaters
get executed.

Coons carry distemper and flea-borne diseases, not so great for pets,
there's not a lot of natural predators around, either.

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Your sister needs to invest in a fence.


The repeaters mean that the relocation was not done properly.


Coons do not carry diseases any more than you do.


They are very clean creatures.


And they make really cool caps!

There was a pattern and assembly instructions for a 'coonskin cap in _Boy's
Life_. It was 1957, '58, or '59. They included a pattern to make one from a
skunk, too.

It's not easy to find. They have it at the Library of Congress, on
microform.

Did you know that the Disney series on Daniel Boone made those things so
popular that there was a shortage of raccoons in the late '50s? Most of the
"cconskin" caps from that era actually were made from Australian rabbits.

The horror, the horror...

--
Ed Huntress


They make excellent pets if raised from birth by humans.


Not knowing your location, I cannot judge the predator load they have.


Car traffic is a major "predator".


Again...remove the food source and they will move on.


One cannot blame them for taking advantage of easy food...humans eat
at McDonalds all the time and we don't shoot them.


TMT




Ignoramus1214 June 23rd 11 07:26 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On 2011-06-23, Ed Huntress wrote:

There was a pattern and assembly instructions for a 'coonskin cap in _Boy's
Life_. It was 1957, '58, or '59. They included a pattern to make one from a
skunk, too.

It's not easy to find. They have it at the Library of Congress, on
microform.

Did you know that the Disney series on Daniel Boone made those things so
popular that there was a shortage of raccoons in the late '50s? Most of the
"cconskin" caps from that era actually were made from Australian rabbits.


The idea sounds good in theory, but proper leather making probably
involves some disgusting processes.

i

Ed Huntress June 23rd 11 07:39 PM

'Coons.....OT
 

"Ignoramus1214" wrote in message
...
On 2011-06-23, Ed Huntress wrote:

There was a pattern and assembly instructions for a 'coonskin cap in
_Boy's
Life_. It was 1957, '58, or '59. They included a pattern to make one from
a
skunk, too.

It's not easy to find. They have it at the Library of Congress, on
microform.

Did you know that the Disney series on Daniel Boone made those things so
popular that there was a shortage of raccoons in the late '50s? Most of
the
"cconskin" caps from that era actually were made from Australian rabbits.


The idea sounds good in theory, but proper leather making probably
involves some disgusting processes.

i


There are some that are less disgusting than others. g The _Boy's Life_
pattern may have just involved drying the skin, or drying it in borax. I
don't recall. You don't need much flexibility. I've done that with small
animals when I was a kid. It's also the way I preserve squirrel tails for
making streamer flies.

BTW, they have _Boy's Life_ on microform at the Naperville Public Library,
but only back to 1980. I'll be in DC this weekend. I'll be busy, but I'll
see what I can do.

Also BTW, if you want to know about a REALLY disgusting way to make leather,
I have an American Indian recipe recorded in an Ernest Thompson Seton book
from the 1920s. It involved cooking and mashing the brains and liver and
smearing them on the skin, then rolling it up and burying it underground for
a couple of weeks. If I recall correctly, it makes the hair fall off, so
it's for leather only.

--
Ed Huntress



Ignoramus1214 June 23rd 11 07:43 PM

'Coons.....OT
 
On 2011-06-23, Ed Huntress wrote:
The idea sounds good in theory, but proper leather making probably
involves some disgusting processes.

i


There are some that are less disgusting than others. g The _Boy's Life_
pattern may have just involved drying the skin, or drying it in borax. I
don't recall. You don't need much flexibility. I've done that with small
animals when I was a kid. It's also the way I preserve squirrel tails for
making streamer flies.

BTW, they have _Boy's Life_ on microform at the Naperville Public Library,
but only back to 1980. I'll be in DC this weekend. I'll be busy, but I'll
see what I can do.


Sounds interesting.

Also BTW, if you want to know about a REALLY disgusting way to make leather,
I have an American Indian recipe recorded in an Ernest Thompson Seton book
from the 1920s. It involved cooking and mashing the brains and liver and
smearing them on the skin, then rolling it up and burying it underground for
a couple of weeks. If I recall correctly, it makes the hair fall off, so
it's for leather only.


Exactly what I meant. This is pretty much the standadr approach.

Doubtfully a raccooon has enough brains to smear no his own skin.

i


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