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I want to make some half cylinder wall sconces for outdoor lighting. Maybe
even some full tubes. Can I get a roller that will do that like the cheapie ring rollers at HF? Can I make some? I have a BUNCH of rollers that come from those material handling rolling frames that are around 1.5" OD, and can use one for about 12" materials, and weld a few together for more. Or I could buy some pipe and make a roller. Does that require two or three pieces to roll? Help appreciated. What's it called? Sorry I have to ask questions, but I don't know everything. Yet. Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
... What's it called? A "slip roller" or "slip rolls" Here's one DIY: http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/rolls/rolls.html Vince Gingery has a little how-to book for one. See Lindsy's (sp) books. I captured this pic from a video: http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/SlipRoll.png (700kB, sorry) It has a different layout and uses cranks to link the 2 driving rolls, which I like. Bob |
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On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:31:13 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Vince Gingery has a little how-to book for one. See Lindsy's (sp) books. http://www.lindsaybks.com/dgjp/djgbk/slip/index.html -- Unka George (George McDuffee) ............................... The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953). |
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On May 26, 9:59*am, "Steve B" wrote:
I want to make some half cylinder wall sconces for outdoor lighting. *Maybe even some full tubes. Can I get a roller that will do that like the cheapie ring rollers at HF? Can I make some? *I have a BUNCH of rollers that come from those material handling rolling frames that are around 1.5" OD, and can use one for about 12" materials, and weld a few together for more. Or I could buy some pipe and make a roller. *Does that require two or three pieces to roll? ... Steve A series of shallow straight bends doesn't look bad and may be easier to do. I'd clamp some steel angle to the top of a sawhorse, corner up, for the lower die and saw a wide groove in the edge of a 2x4 for the upper one. That way you can line up pencil marks for the bends with the corner of the angle. Uprights clamped to the sawhorse to guide the upper die would help a lot. Use a coffee can or such as the gage to get all the bends about equal. I bought a 30" 3-in-1 machine because I don't have space for separate shear and finger brake.: http://image.made-in-china.com/4f0j0...ng-Machine.jpg The rolls are about 1.5" diameter, not quite stiff enough to roll full- width 1/16" 6061 aluminum properly. Two rolls squeeze together to grab the work and drive it over the third, which you raise or lower experimentally to force the desired curvature. On this machine the rolls run in bushing sleeves which the adjusting screws push against. The sleeves slide in milled slots. It wouldn't be hard to make one if you omit the roll release for removing closed cylinders. This is a 40" brake I made to bend aluminum to cover my old wood window frames: https://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/...33136395165634 And after making more convenient clamping cams: https://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/...33137678036386 When I showed it to a friend he said he had a 10' Tapco siding brake I could borrow! jsw |
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On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:31:13 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Steve B wrote: ... What's it called? A "slip roller" or "slip rolls" Here's one DIY: http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/rolls/rolls.html Vince Gingery has a little how-to book for one. See Lindsy's (sp) books. I captured this pic from a video: http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/SlipRoll.png (700kB, sorry) It has a different layout and uses cranks to link the 2 driving rolls, which I like. Hey, there's a mini-steamroller on your benchtop, Bob! -- Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences. It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is happening around him, for to live life well one must live life with awareness. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On May 26, 5:31*pm, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
... Here's one DIY:http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/rolls/rolls.html Vince Gingery has a little how-to book for one. *See Lindsy's (sp) books. I captured this pic from a video:http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhar...oll.png*(700kB, sorry) It has a different layout and uses cranks to link the 2 driving rolls, which I like. Bob Very nice. The 3-in-1 style roller supports might be easier if you have some thick steel plates (28mm) lying around and can mill slots in it, then drill and tap adjusting screw holes in line with the slots. The holes would challenge the working range of my Clausing mill, but wouldn't be difficult on a floor drill press. If you screw up and don't drill them straight it's a more authentic copy. The two clamping rolls are simply geared together, which works OK because the max thickness sheet metal doesn't separate them very far. The 3-in-1 design couldn't bend bar stock like the photo. What's the steam-tractor-ish thing in the background? jsw |
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
.... I captured this pic from a video: http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/SlipRoll.png ... I guess that I was a bit misleading: that's not my roll/roller - it was a YouTube video that I captured it from cause I liked the crank-and-link arrangement. I think the video was about making a wheel for something & the roller was used to make the "tire". Bob |
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On May 26, 7:14*pm, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Bob Engelhardt wrote: I captured this pic from a video: http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/SlipRoll.png*... I guess that I was a bit misleading: that's not my roll/roller - it was a YouTube video that I captured it from cause I liked the crank-and-link arrangement. *I think the video was about making a wheel for something & the roller was used to make the "tire". Bob OK. It looks like he welded the cranks to the ends of the roller support shafts. I TIG'd the retaining plates on my hydraulic loader's O-1 linkage pivot pins and had a problem with brittle cracking just beyond the weld zone. When I annealed them enough to fix it the bearing surfaces needed polishing. jsw |
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