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OT - When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?
Christopher Tidy wrote:
I know there's an understandable yearning for revenge among Americans in general, and the families of the victims in particular, but revenge can often be counterproductive. On this point, this hippie's words are bang on: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/...f821eb28_z.jpg That FM hippie needs to get a job. I don't understand why you call dispatching OBL revenge. He was responsible for the murders of ~3000 people. Wes |
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"Steve Ackman" wrote in message ... In , on Wed, 11 May 2011 14:14:01 -0700, PrecisionmachinisT, wrote: "Steve Ackman" wrote in message ... In , on Mon, 09 May 2011 05:36:10 -0400, Wes, wrote: I don't understand why you call dispatching OBL revenge. He was responsible for the murders of ~3000 people. Justice is comprised of capture and trial. Think back to Nuernberg, for instance. War criminals get a trial. When someone is simply murdered in retaliation for crimes he's commited, that's revenge. NOPE Bin Laden was convicted in absentia. Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. RogerN With all due respect, Roger, you wouldn't recognize a centrist if he walked up and bit you in the butt. But not to worry, I'm not into that sort of thing. d8-) Just because I don't want to machine-gun Mexicans as they cross the border or push Grandma out to sea on a warm day while she sits on a cake of ice doesn't mean I'm liberal. -- Ed Huntress |
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"RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. Who in the **** died and left you in charge of defining what the word "Liberals" means ? -- |
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On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. i |
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"Ignoramus30246" wrote in message
... On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. i Liberals have taught me that over the years. Not all liberals, some having their way would confiscate your mill because you mentioned making a receiver for a gun with it. I'm tired of them(some liberals) caring about someone on death row, because they might be innocent, and not caring about known innocent people being punished on purpose because of the laws they are responsible for. As far as church, I haven't been but about one time in the last 7 or 8 years. RogerN |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... "RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. RogerN With all due respect, Roger, you wouldn't recognize a centrist if he walked up and bit you in the butt. But not to worry, I'm not into that sort of thing. d8-) Just because I don't want to machine-gun Mexicans as they cross the border or push Grandma out to sea on a warm day while she sits on a cake of ice doesn't mean I'm liberal. -- Ed Huntress I didn't say you were a liberal, just that your answer seemed to describe liberals. The majority of liberals on here seem pretty cool, at least many believe in the 2nd ammendment. Iggy and Hawke seem seem sensible but TMT probably would want someone to have a FOID to buy a caulk gun and require it be stored in a safe and carried unloaded in a case. RogerN |
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"PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message
news:JPudnZtnAeiPvlbQnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@scnresearch. com... "RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. Who in the **** died and left you in charge of defining what the word "Liberals" means ? -- Osama! RogerN |
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On 5/11/2011 2:04 PM, Steve Ackman wrote:
, on Mon, 09 May 2011 05:36:10 -0400, Wes, wrote: Christopher wrote: I know there's an understandable yearning for revenge among Americans in general, and the families of the victims in particular, but revenge can often be counterproductive. On this point, this hippie's words are bang on: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/...f821eb28_z.jpg That FM hippie needs to get a job. I don't understand why you call dispatching OBL revenge. He was responsible for the murders of ~3000 people. Justice is comprised of capture and trial. You are confusing law and justice. There is often little connection between the two. Think back to Nuernberg, for instance. War criminals get a trial. Terrorists are not war criminals, if they are captured they are not POWs, according to the Geneva Accords. They are more similar to pirates as far as what treatment they can be given, i.e., the capturing authority can do what they feel is necessary, including execution with or without trial. When someone is simply murdered in retaliation for crimes he's commited, that's revenge. It would only be murder if it were illegal. David |
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Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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On May 11, 10:29*pm, "David R. Birch" wrote:
* *When someone is simply murdered in retaliation for crimes he's commited, that's revenge. It would only be murder if it were illegal. David I am not familiar with Pakistan law, but strongly suspect that the killing of OBL was murder. Dan |
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On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? i |
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Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:03:55 -0500, Ignoramus9116
wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? I thought organized religion was the root of all evil. -- Woe be to him that reads but one book. -- George Herbert |
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On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? i |
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"Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? He's not trying to "say" anything at all... --Rather, he is "trying" to get you to waste your time in replying to his mindless trolling.. And he's apparently succeeding... -- |
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Steve Ackman wrote:
I don't understand why you call dispatching OBL revenge. He was responsible for the murders of ~3000 people. Justice is comprised of capture and trial. Think back to Nuernberg, for instance. War criminals get a trial. Nuernberg was post surrender. We are still at war with Al Queida so Bin Lauden was a combatant. Hopefully we used FMJ instead of hollow points. ;) Wes |
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"Ignoramus9116" wrote in message
... On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? i I can guess me might be trying to say something like "What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul". If you achieve your goal, then what? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised to find out what Jesus is really all about. Jesus' main problem was with the religious people, there is a problem and a solution. It has been 39 years since I was "born again" and I'm still learning. When one is "born again" they have a new nature but unfortunately their old nature is still there, this is why they are two faced. The new nature wants to do God's will, the old sinful nature is still there though. Christians aren't good people, they are such a hopeless mess that they can only be saved by faith in Christ. A Christian is someone that realizes they are a hopeless case and they need a savior. RogerN |
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On 2011-05-13, Wes wrote:
Steve Ackman wrote: I don't understand why you call dispatching OBL revenge. He was responsible for the murders of ~3000 people. Justice is comprised of capture and trial. Think back to Nuernberg, for instance. War criminals get a trial. Nuernberg was post surrender. We are still at war with Al Queida so Bin Lauden was a combatant. Hopefully we used FMJ instead of hollow points. ;) I do not, personally, have a problem with having Bin Laden killed during capture. If he wanted to be captured and not killed, he could always walk into a US embassy, and then he would get a fair trial. i |
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On 2011-05-13, RogerN wrote:
"Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? i I can guess me might be trying to say something like "What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul". If you achieve your goal, then what? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised to find out what Jesus is really all about. Jesus' main problem was with the religious people, there is a problem and a solution. It has been 39 years since I was "born again" and I'm still learning. When one is "born again" they have a new nature but unfortunately their old nature is still there, this is why they are two faced. The new nature wants to do God's will, the old sinful nature is still there though. Christians aren't good people, they are such a hopeless mess that they can only be saved by faith in Christ. A Christian is someone that realizes they are a hopeless case and they need a savior. Roger, I am not religious, I tried very hard to "get it", and eventually realized that religion is all about FUD and spreading confusion. So I gave up on it. Despite this, I try to generally live a relatively ethical life, do not cheat on my spouse or anything of the sort. i |
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Define "Cheating".
"Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... Despite this, I try to generally live a relatively ethical life, do not cheat on my spouse or anything of the sort. i |
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Maybe he didn't understand English and didn't know how to respond and they
shot him for not responding. Imagine a USanian not understanding somebody might speak another language than they do. -------------------- "Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... I do not, personally, have a problem with having Bin Laden killed during capture. If he wanted to be captured and not killed, he could always walk into a US embassy, and then he would get a fair trial. i |
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On 5/11/2011 2:14 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
"Steve wrote in message ... , on Mon, 09 May 2011 05:36:10 -0400, Wes, wrote: Christopher wrote: I know there's an understandable yearning for revenge among Americans in general, and the families of the victims in particular, but revenge can often be counterproductive. On this point, this hippie's words are bang on: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/...f821eb28_z.jpg That FM hippie needs to get a job. I don't understand why you call dispatching OBL revenge. He was responsible for the murders of ~3000 people. Justice is comprised of capture and trial. Think back to Nuernberg, for instance. War criminals get a trial. When someone is simply murdered in retaliation for crimes he's commited, that's revenge. NOPE Bin Laden was convicted in absentia. Not only that; we are supposedly at war with him and al Qaeda. We know he was at war with us. We have his declaration of war against us on video. So it's a wartime situation and that is far different from normal. Pretty much all bets are off when two sides are officially at war, which we were, are. So Bin Laden had no kick coming from being shot down on sight. Even so, we had the drop on the guy and he didn't have a chance to do anything. Instead of doing the humane thing and taking him prisoner we just shot the guy to death. And that does seem a hell of a lot like just plain revenge. We had a choice. I think we might have been a lot better off with him in custody rather than dead. As the saying goes, dead men tell no tales. Nothing more will ever be learned from Bin Laden. I'm not sure that's such a good thing. Hawke |
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On 5/11/2011 4:46 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message m... "Ed wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. RogerN With all due respect, Roger, you wouldn't recognize a centrist if he walked up and bit you in the butt. But not to worry, I'm not into that sort of thing. d8-) Just because I don't want to machine-gun Mexicans as they cross the border or push Grandma out to sea on a warm day while she sits on a cake of ice doesn't mean I'm liberal. Maybe, but the fact that you seem to be a decent person with some morals disqualifies you from being a true republican. Like, how much are you like Newt Gingrich? He's a republican. Are you really one of them? So maybe you're more of a liberal than you think you are. Hawke |
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On 5/11/2011 7:26 PM, RogerN wrote:
"Ed wrote in message ... wrote in message m... "Ed wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. RogerN With all due respect, Roger, you wouldn't recognize a centrist if he walked up and bit you in the butt. But not to worry, I'm not into that sort of thing. d8-) Just because I don't want to machine-gun Mexicans as they cross the border or push Grandma out to sea on a warm day while she sits on a cake of ice doesn't mean I'm liberal. -- Ed Huntress I didn't say you were a liberal, just that your answer seemed to describe liberals. The majority of liberals on here seem pretty cool, at least many believe in the 2nd ammendment. Iggy and Hawke seem seem sensible but TMT probably would want someone to have a FOID to buy a caulk gun and require it be stored in a safe and carried unloaded in a case. RogerN The gun question is more of a city vs rural thing than anything else. You go to the big cities and you will find lots of republicans that have similar anti gun views. But go to the country and I don't care what party you belong to you are pro second amendment. I think it's something about being in the middle of nowhere that teaches you that there isn't going to be any cop to call when you're in trouble. People in the cities just think when there is trouble you just call the cops. In the country we know you have to be ready to defend yourself. Because by the time a cop shows up to protect you, you'd already be dead. So I think it's more an urban vs rural thing with guns. But myself, I have conservative views on a number of things besides guns. Staying out of foreign wars, stopping illegal immigration, not spending more money than we take in, etc. But I find most people are the same. Only a minority of people are all liberal on everything or all conservative on everything. By the way, those are they people that worry me because they are way too extreme to reason with. Hawke |
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On 5/11/2011 5:04 PM, Ignoramus30246 wrote:
On 2011-05-11, wrote: "Ed wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. i I say amen to that! Hawke |
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On Thu, 12 May 2011 21:28:43 -0500, Ignoramus9116
wrote: On 2011-05-13, RogerN wrote: "Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? i I can guess me might be trying to say something like "What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul". If you achieve your goal, then what? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised to find out what Jesus is really all about. Jesus' main problem was with the religious people, there is a problem and a solution. It has been 39 years since I was "born again" and I'm still learning. When one is "born again" they have a new nature but unfortunately their old nature is still there, this is why they are two faced. The new nature wants to do God's will, the old sinful nature is still there though. Christians aren't good people, they are such a hopeless mess that they can only be saved by faith in Christ. A Christian is someone that realizes they are a hopeless case and they need a savior. Roger, I am not religious, I tried very hard to "get it", and eventually realized that religion is all about FUD and spreading confusion. So I gave up on it. Despite this, I try to generally live a relatively ethical life, do not cheat on my spouse or anything of the sort. "Jesus Saves, Moses Invests, and God will forgive my throwing out my wife and marriage because I go to church." -- If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do. -- Samuel Butler |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 21:28:43 -0500, Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-13, RogerN wrote: "Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? i I can guess me might be trying to say something like "What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul". If you achieve your goal, then what? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised to find out what Jesus is really all about. Jesus' main problem was with the religious people, there is a problem and a solution. It has been 39 years since I was "born again" and I'm still learning. When one is "born again" they have a new nature but unfortunately their old nature is still there, this is why they are two faced. The new nature wants to do God's will, the old sinful nature is still there though. Christians aren't good people, they are such a hopeless mess that they can only be saved by faith in Christ. A Christian is someone that realizes they are a hopeless case and they need a savior. Roger, I am not religious, I tried very hard to "get it", and eventually realized that religion is all about FUD and spreading confusion. So I gave up on it. Despite this, I try to generally live a relatively ethical life, do not cheat on my spouse or anything of the sort. "Jesus Saves, Moses Invests, and God will forgive my throwing out my wife and marriage because I go to church." Where did you find that, on the wall of a men's room at a bar? -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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Josepi wrote: Maybe he didn't understand English and didn't know how to respond and they shot him for not responding. Imagine a USanian not understanding somebody might speak another language than they do. Talk about trolling... -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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"RogerN" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus9116 wrote: On 2011-05-12, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Ignoramus30246 wrote: On 2011-05-11, RogerN wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. This is what they teach you in your church, but it is not true. I would definitely recommend to give up on the church. You just can't get past that "The love of money is the root of all evil" can you? What are you trying to say? Isn't it obvious? You've stated that you wanted to be one of the 100 richest. And what exactly are you trying to say by that? i I can guess me might be trying to say something like "What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul". If you achieve your goal, then what? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised to find out what Jesus is really all about. Jesus' main problem was with the religious people, there is a problem and a solution. It has been 39 years since I was "born again" and I'm still learning. When one is "born again" they have a new nature but unfortunately their old nature is still there, this is why they are two faced. The new nature wants to do God's will, the old sinful nature is still there though. Christians aren't good people, they are such a hopeless mess that they can only be saved by faith in Christ. A Christian is someone that realizes they are a hopeless case and they need a savior. RogerN Those are my primary arguments in favor of religion: It lightens the loads on our jails, and keeps some people on the job, who would otherwise be hanging on street corners drinking Night Train Express. Hang in there, Roger. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Hawke" wrote in message ... On 5/11/2011 4:46 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: wrote in message m... "Ed wrote in message ... snip Really? I didn't know that. Where's the transcript of the trial? "Justice" is mass, legalized revenge, filtered through sophistic mumbo-jumbo and twisted moralisms to deny the simple, and obvious, fact about what it is. Bin Laden was killed in an act of self-defense against a non-state combatant. As in any combat, at any time in history and anywhere in the world, no trial is needed. Neither is suicide required. -- Ed Huntress Though I agree with your answer, it seems to be anti-liberal. Liberals deny simple obvious facts and spin BS. RogerN With all due respect, Roger, you wouldn't recognize a centrist if he walked up and bit you in the butt. But not to worry, I'm not into that sort of thing. d8-) Just because I don't want to machine-gun Mexicans as they cross the border or push Grandma out to sea on a warm day while she sits on a cake of ice doesn't mean I'm liberal. Maybe, but the fact that you seem to be a decent person with some morals disqualifies you from being a true republican. Like, how much are you like Newt Gingrich? He's a republican. Are you really one of them? So maybe you're more of a liberal than you think you are. Hawke Remember, I *am* a registered Republican. Just because the right-wing fruit loops have temporarily co-opted the party doesn't mean that the old balance won't be restored. I'm hoping it happens before I die, but time is running out... -- Ed Huntress |
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I hear yah, soft or hollow points would be inhumane, right?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Wes" wrote in message ... We are still at war with Al Queida so Bin Lauden was a combatant. Hopefully we used FMJ instead of hollow points. ;) Wes |
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Saved by faith, exalted through ordinances and works.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "RogerN" wrote in message ... I can guess me might be trying to say something like "What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul". If you achieve your goal, then what? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised to find out what Jesus is really all about. Jesus' main problem was with the religious people, there is a problem and a solution. It has been 39 years since I was "born again" and I'm still learning. When one is "born again" they have a new nature but unfortunately their old nature is still there, this is why they are two faced. The new nature wants to do God's will, the old sinful nature is still there though. Christians aren't good people, they are such a hopeless mess that they can only be saved by faith in Christ. A Christian is someone that realizes they are a hopeless case and they need a savior. RogerN |
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He did not cheat with that woman; Miss Lewinsky.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Josepi" wrote in message ... Define "Cheating". "Ignoramus9116" wrote in message ... Despite this, I try to generally live a relatively ethical life, do not cheat on my spouse or anything of the sort. i |
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BANG!!!!! (After the UN troops invade USA) -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Josepi" wrote in message ... Maybe he didn't understand English and didn't know how to respond and they shot him for not responding. Imagine a USanian not understanding somebody might speak another language than they do. |
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LOL. Lucky ******* but it had to be a super bitch and setup.
-------------- "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... He did not cheat with that woman; Miss Lewinsky. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org |
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I have to agree with you n that one except it was simple and no
complications for any hidden American lies would be exposed. We'll see if the revenge thing increases. Much of the world hate American due to just what they did to OBL, lies and meddling in other cultures. "The whole world has to be just like me" ----------------------- "Hawke" wrote in message ... Not only that; we are supposedly at war with him and al Qaeda. We know he was at war with us. We have his declaration of war against us on video. So it's a wartime situation and that is far different from normal. Pretty much all bets are off when two sides are officially at war, which we were, are. So Bin Laden had no kick coming from being shot down on sight. Even so, we had the drop on the guy and he didn't have a chance to do anything. Instead of doing the humane thing and taking him prisoner we just shot the guy to death. And that does seem a hell of a lot like just plain revenge. We had a choice. I think we might have been a lot better off with him in custody rather than dead. As the saying goes, dead men tell no tales. Nothing more will ever be learned from Bin Laden. I'm not sure that's such a good thing. Hawke |
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OK. Let talk about trolling since you seem to be really experienced with it.
I don't know how you slip out of my bozo bin so many times. Two insults are my tolerance and then back they go. For a start look at the anger in your signature line. It wreaks of hatred for everybody. Wanna' talk some more? --------------- "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Talk about trolling... |
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