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On 12/5/2010 10:36 PM, Howard Beal wrote:

APPARENTLY, Hawke has no clue. I own a S corporation Algebra, Inc. It
is a conduit for conducting my varied money making activities, from
websites to (mostly formerly) eBaying.

Unlike what Hawke is saying, S corporations are taxed, as their
income
is added to the owners' income.

But that's paid via the owners' 1040's, not directly by the
corporate entity. There's no such thing as a tax break for sub-S
corps unless it relates to FICA or FUTA which all corporations with
employees must pay.


Please give credit to the correct person who gave the above opion.
I will not take credit for another posters comments.


I actually wrote the following:

The advantage is if your a S corp. you can pay yourself a huge
dividend which is exempt from FICA tax. Just pay yourself
minimum wage during the year to meet minimum requirements
and a huge dividend on december 31. You still have to pay
income tax on your dividend but no FICA. IF you
take a 200K dividend you pick up roughly 30K by avoiding
FICA tax.

Best Regards
Tom.



But hey, you don't get any breaks from being an S corp, right? Saving
30K in FICA, is that a break? I think most of you folks who fancy
yourselves as S corp experts are really people who don't know what
you are doing. Seems like the smart folks are using the S corp to
their advantage. You guys need some tax advice, if you ask me.

Hawke


Prima facie, i am an advocate of S corp formation for small business.
Being a smart person my business was a corporation for 30 years.

Best Regards
Tom.


They never taught Hack about how a newsreader works when he almost
graduated the fourth grade.



All I can say is there you go again. You, an ignorant man, going around
telling others how dumb they are. You'll never see why that is wrong and
you will never learn not to do that. Thus, you are indeed not only
ignorant but dumb as well. You can't make a rational argument either.
You are good at schoolyard name calling though. But that just is more
evidence of you having an inferior brain.

Hawke
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On 12/6/2010 5:18 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"azotic" wrote in message
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2010 10:36 PM, Howard Beal wrote:

APPARENTLY, Hawke has no clue. I own a S corporation Algebra, Inc.
It
is a conduit for conducting my varied money making activities, from
websites to (mostly formerly) eBaying.

Unlike what Hawke is saying, S corporations are taxed, as their
income
is added to the owners' income.

But that's paid via the owners' 1040's, not directly by the
corporate entity. There's no such thing as a tax break for sub-S
corps unless it relates to FICA or FUTA which all corporations with
employees must pay.


Please give credit to the correct person who gave the above opion.
I will not take credit for another posters comments.


I actually wrote the following:

The advantage is if your a S corp. you can pay yourself a huge
dividend which is exempt from FICA tax. Just pay yourself
minimum wage during the year to meet minimum requirements
and a huge dividend on december 31. You still have to pay
income tax on your dividend but no FICA. IF you
take a 200K dividend you pick up roughly 30K by avoiding
FICA tax.

Best Regards
Tom.


But hey, you don't get any breaks from being an S corp, right? Saving
30K in FICA, is that a break? I think most of you folks who fancy
yourselves as S corp experts are really people who don't know what
you are doing. Seems like the smart folks are using the S corp to
their advantage. You guys need some tax advice, if you ask me.

Hawke

Prima facie, i am an advocate of S corp formation for small business.
Being a smart person my business was a corporation for 30 years.

Best Regards
Tom.


They never taught Hack about how a newsreader works when he almost
graduated the fourth grade.



All I can say is there you go again. You, an ignorant man, going around
telling others how dumb they are. You'll never see why that is wrong and
you will never learn not to do that. Thus, you are indeed not only
ignorant but dumb as well. You can't make a rational argument either. You
are good at schoolyard name calling though. But that just is more evidence
of you having an inferior brain.

Hawke



Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through the
window that is Hack's life.




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On 12/10/2010 4:24 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/6/2010 5:18 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"azotic" wrote in message
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2010 10:36 PM, Howard Beal wrote:

APPARENTLY, Hawke has no clue. I own a S corporation Algebra,
Inc. It
is a conduit for conducting my varied money making activities, from
websites to (mostly formerly) eBaying.

Unlike what Hawke is saying, S corporations are taxed, as their
income
is added to the owners' income.

But that's paid via the owners' 1040's, not directly by the
corporate entity. There's no such thing as a tax break for sub-S
corps unless it relates to FICA or FUTA which all corporations with
employees must pay.


Please give credit to the correct person who gave the above opion.
I will not take credit for another posters comments.


I actually wrote the following:

The advantage is if your a S corp. you can pay yourself a huge
dividend which is exempt from FICA tax. Just pay yourself
minimum wage during the year to meet minimum requirements
and a huge dividend on december 31. You still have to pay
income tax on your dividend but no FICA. IF you
take a 200K dividend you pick up roughly 30K by avoiding
FICA tax.

Best Regards
Tom.


But hey, you don't get any breaks from being an S corp, right? Saving
30K in FICA, is that a break? I think most of you folks who fancy
yourselves as S corp experts are really people who don't know what
you are doing. Seems like the smart folks are using the S corp to
their advantage. You guys need some tax advice, if you ask me.

Hawke

Prima facie, i am an advocate of S corp formation for small business.
Being a smart person my business was a corporation for 30 years.

Best Regards
Tom.

They never taught Hack about how a newsreader works when he almost
graduated the fourth grade.



All I can say is there you go again. You, an ignorant man, going
around telling others how dumb they are. You'll never see why that is
wrong and you will never learn not to do that. Thus, you are indeed
not only ignorant but dumb as well. You can't make a rational argument
either. You are good at schoolyard name calling though. But that just
is more evidence of you having an inferior brain.

Hawke



Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through
the window that is Hack's life.


I don't know why you didn't just say I'm rubber, you're glue. That's the
level you're operating on, schoolboy. All you have to do it come across
with some smart points, some real logic, or some kind of argument based
on reason backed up with verifiable facts to show you're not just some
pimply faced kid. But you can't do it. You just prove my point about
what an ignorant dufus you are time and time again. The saying that
comes to mind when I think of you is stupid is as stupid does. No one
would think you're stupid but then you continue to open your mouth and
prove to everyone that you are. You need to quit with your childishness
right away. I doubt you can though.

Hawke

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On 12/10/2010 4:24 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/6/2010 5:18 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"azotic" wrote in message
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2010 10:36 PM, Howard Beal wrote:

APPARENTLY, Hawke has no clue. I own a S corporation Algebra,
Inc. It
is a conduit for conducting my varied money making activities,
from
websites to (mostly formerly) eBaying.

Unlike what Hawke is saying, S corporations are taxed, as their
income
is added to the owners' income.

But that's paid via the owners' 1040's, not directly by the
corporate entity. There's no such thing as a tax break for sub-S
corps unless it relates to FICA or FUTA which all corporations with
employees must pay.


Please give credit to the correct person who gave the above opion.
I will not take credit for another posters comments.


I actually wrote the following:

The advantage is if your a S corp. you can pay yourself a huge
dividend which is exempt from FICA tax. Just pay yourself
minimum wage during the year to meet minimum requirements
and a huge dividend on december 31. You still have to pay
income tax on your dividend but no FICA. IF you
take a 200K dividend you pick up roughly 30K by avoiding
FICA tax.

Best Regards
Tom.


But hey, you don't get any breaks from being an S corp, right? Saving
30K in FICA, is that a break? I think most of you folks who fancy
yourselves as S corp experts are really people who don't know what
you are doing. Seems like the smart folks are using the S corp to
their advantage. You guys need some tax advice, if you ask me.

Hawke

Prima facie, i am an advocate of S corp formation for small business.
Being a smart person my business was a corporation for 30 years.

Best Regards
Tom.

They never taught Hack about how a newsreader works when he almost
graduated the fourth grade.


All I can say is there you go again. You, an ignorant man, going
around telling others how dumb they are. You'll never see why that is
wrong and you will never learn not to do that. Thus, you are indeed
not only ignorant but dumb as well. You can't make a rational argument
either. You are good at schoolyard name calling though. But that just
is more evidence of you having an inferior brain.

Hawke



Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through
the window that is Hack's life.


I don't know why you didn't just say I'm rubber, you're glue. That's the
level you're operating on, schoolboy. All you have to do it come across
with some smart points, some real logic, or some kind of argument based on
reason backed up with verifiable facts to show you're not just some pimply
faced kid. But you can't do it. You just prove my point about what an
ignorant dufus you are time and time again. The saying that comes to mind
when I think of you is stupid is as stupid does. No one would think you're
stupid but then you continue to open your mouth and prove to everyone that
you are. You need to quit with your childishness right away. I doubt you
can though.

Hawke


He was talking about you misappropriating comments, to him which he did not
post. This is not a new thing for you, or some innocent "first mistake". You
do this consistently and many folks can't even tell who you are quoting.

I'm not that far off base on saying you don't know how to use a newsreader,
but you take it personally and start with the unprovoked gratuitous attacks.
That's why if you replace "you" with "I", you will see that your projection
of your own ignorance isn't fooling anyone. We can see right through you.

Everything you write is about your own self. What a horrible life you must
live, based on what we can glimpse of your sad existence. Your posts are a
window into your miserable life, it's time you closed your drapes, people
are starting to stare.








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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:24:02 -0600, "Chomp Noamsky"
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/6/2010 5:18 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"azotic" wrote in message
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/5/2010 10:36 PM, Howard Beal wrote:

APPARENTLY, Hawke has no clue. I own a S corporation Algebra, Inc.
It
is a conduit for conducting my varied money making activities, from
websites to (mostly formerly) eBaying.

Unlike what Hawke is saying, S corporations are taxed, as their
income
is added to the owners' income.

But that's paid via the owners' 1040's, not directly by the
corporate entity. There's no such thing as a tax break for sub-S
corps unless it relates to FICA or FUTA which all corporations with
employees must pay.


Please give credit to the correct person who gave the above opion.
I will not take credit for another posters comments.


I actually wrote the following:

The advantage is if your a S corp. you can pay yourself a huge
dividend which is exempt from FICA tax. Just pay yourself
minimum wage during the year to meet minimum requirements
and a huge dividend on december 31. You still have to pay
income tax on your dividend but no FICA. IF you
take a 200K dividend you pick up roughly 30K by avoiding
FICA tax.

Best Regards
Tom.


But hey, you don't get any breaks from being an S corp, right? Saving
30K in FICA, is that a break? I think most of you folks who fancy
yourselves as S corp experts are really people who don't know what
you are doing. Seems like the smart folks are using the S corp to
their advantage. You guys need some tax advice, if you ask me.

Hawke

Prima facie, i am an advocate of S corp formation for small business.
Being a smart person my business was a corporation for 30 years.

Best Regards
Tom.

They never taught Hack about how a newsreader works when he almost
graduated the fourth grade.



All I can say is there you go again. You, an ignorant man, going around
telling others how dumb they are. You'll never see why that is wrong and
you will never learn not to do that. Thus, you are indeed not only
ignorant but dumb as well. You can't make a rational argument either. You
are good at schoolyard name calling though. But that just is more evidence
of you having an inferior brain.

Hawke



Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through the
window that is Hack's life.



Very well stated.

Gunner

Top 10 Democrat Party Slogans

10. Bitterly clinging to aborton and taxes
9. We didnt destroy your freedoms, you can
visit them at the Smithstonian
8. If you want us to listen to your opinion, move to Europ
7. Someday none of this will be yours
6. We can't tax terrorism, so who cares?
5. Please don't vote us out!! None of us can hold a real job!
4. Why the Founding Fathers limited Government:
Racism!
3. Reducing America's carbon footprint, one job at a time.
2. America: We just cant wait to see how it ends!!
1. Making everything in this country free, except you.


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On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 01:06:36 -0600, "Chomp Noamsky"
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 12/10/2010 4:24 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"Hawke" wrote in message
...
On 12/6/2010 5:18 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:


"azotic" wrote in message
...
?
"Hawke" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/2010 10:36 PM, Howard Beal wrote:

APPARENTLY, Hawke has no clue. I own a S corporation Algebra,
Inc. It
is a conduit for conducting my varied money making activities,
from
websites to (mostly formerly) eBaying.

Unlike what Hawke is saying, S corporations are taxed, as their
income
is added to the owners' income.

But that's paid via the owners' 1040's, not directly by the
corporate entity. There's no such thing as a tax break for sub-S
corps unless it relates to FICA or FUTA which all corporations with
employees must pay.


Please give credit to the correct person who gave the above opion.
I will not take credit for another posters comments.


I actually wrote the following:

The advantage is if your a S corp. you can pay yourself a huge
dividend which is exempt from FICA tax. Just pay yourself
minimum wage during the year to meet minimum requirements
and a huge dividend on december 31. You still have to pay
income tax on your dividend but no FICA. IF you
take a 200K dividend you pick up roughly 30K by avoiding
FICA tax.

Best Regards
Tom.


But hey, you don't get any breaks from being an S corp, right? Saving
30K in FICA, is that a break? I think most of you folks who fancy
yourselves as S corp experts are really people who don't know what
you are doing. Seems like the smart folks are using the S corp to
their advantage. You guys need some tax advice, if you ask me.

Hawke

Prima facie, i am an advocate of S corp formation for small business.
Being a smart person my business was a corporation for 30 years.

Best Regards
Tom.

They never taught Hack about how a newsreader works when he almost
graduated the fourth grade.


All I can say is there you go again. You, an ignorant man, going
around telling others how dumb they are. You'll never see why that is
wrong and you will never learn not to do that. Thus, you are indeed
not only ignorant but dumb as well. You can't make a rational argument
either. You are good at schoolyard name calling though. But that just
is more evidence of you having an inferior brain.

Hawke


Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through
the window that is Hack's life.


I don't know why you didn't just say I'm rubber, you're glue. That's the
level you're operating on, schoolboy. All you have to do it come across
with some smart points, some real logic, or some kind of argument based on
reason backed up with verifiable facts to show you're not just some pimply
faced kid. But you can't do it. You just prove my point about what an
ignorant dufus you are time and time again. The saying that comes to mind
when I think of you is stupid is as stupid does. No one would think you're
stupid but then you continue to open your mouth and prove to everyone that
you are. You need to quit with your childishness right away. I doubt you
can though.

Hawke


He was talking about you misappropriating comments, to him which he did not
post. This is not a new thing for you, or some innocent "first mistake". You
do this consistently and many folks can't even tell who you are quoting.

I'm not that far off base on saying you don't know how to use a newsreader,
but you take it personally and start with the unprovoked gratuitous attacks.
That's why if you replace "you" with "I", you will see that your projection
of your own ignorance isn't fooling anyone. We can see right through you.

Everything you write is about your own self. What a horrible life you must
live, based on what we can glimpse of your sad existence. Your posts are a
window into your miserable life, it's time you closed your drapes, people
are starting to stare.


The boi is as transparent as a sheet of the finest window glass.


Top 10 Democrat Party Slogans

10. Bitterly clinging to aborton and taxes
9. We didnt destroy your freedoms, you can
visit them at the Smithstonian
8. If you want us to listen to your opinion, move to Europ
7. Someday none of this will be yours
6. We can't tax terrorism, so who cares?
5. Please don't vote us out!! None of us can hold a real job!
4. Why the Founding Fathers limited Government:
Racism!
3. Reducing America's carbon footprint, one job at a time.
2. America: We just cant wait to see how it ends!!
1. Making everything in this country free, except you.
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Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through
the window that is Hack's life.


I don't know why you didn't just say I'm rubber, you're glue. That's
the level you're operating on, schoolboy. All you have to do it come
across with some smart points, some real logic, or some kind of
argument based on reason backed up with verifiable facts to show
you're not just some pimply faced kid. But you can't do it. You just
prove my point about what an ignorant dufus you are time and time
again. The saying that comes to mind when I think of you is stupid is
as stupid does. No one would think you're stupid but then you continue
to open your mouth and prove to everyone that you are. You need to
quit with your childishness right away. I doubt you can though.

Hawke


He was talking about you misappropriating comments, to him which he did
not post. This is not a new thing for you, or some innocent "first
mistake". You do this consistently and many folks can't even tell who
you are quoting.

I'm not that far off base on saying you don't know how to use a
newsreader, but you take it personally and start with the unprovoked
gratuitous attacks. That's why if you replace "you" with "I", you will
see that your projection of your own ignorance isn't fooling anyone. We
can see right through you.

Everything you write is about your own self. What a horrible life you
must live, based on what we can glimpse of your sad existence. Your
posts are a window into your miserable life, it's time you closed your
drapes, people are starting to stare.



Nice try Junior, but you're full of crap. I've been a member of this
newsgroup for years and there is no problem with people understanding
me. You're also full of crap saying anything about gratuitous personal
attacks. You're at that all day every day. So the pot should stop
calling the kettle black. You're the worst offender here. Just like
you're the worst political offender here who puts up more off topic anti
Obama threads than the rest of us combined. That kind of hypocrisy is
simply amazing.

The concept of someone like you even beginning to comment on my life is
again so far beyond your capability and understanding as to be
laughable. First of all, you know nothing. So anything you think is
based on nothing but your imagination. The truth is you are the
transparent one here. Your anti Obama jihad says a lot about you. You're
far right wing views says a lot. Your constant personal attacks says a
lot. Add it up and you're the one who is easy to read. Angry white male,
conservative, low income, poorly educated, underachiever, who tries to
make up for his shortcomings by making up lies about himself and tries
to feel better about himself by criticizing anyone not a member of his
group. Yeah, I'd say you're pretty easy to read.

Hawke

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On 12/10/2010 11:06 PM, Chomp Noamsky wrote:

Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view
through
the window that is Hack's life.


I don't know why you didn't just say I'm rubber, you're glue. That's
the level you're operating on, schoolboy. All you have to do it come
across with some smart points, some real logic, or some kind of
argument based on reason backed up with verifiable facts to show
you're not just some pimply faced kid. But you can't do it. You just
prove my point about what an ignorant dufus you are time and time
again. The saying that comes to mind when I think of you is stupid is
as stupid does. No one would think you're stupid but then you continue
to open your mouth and prove to everyone that you are. You need to
quit with your childishness right away. I doubt you can though.

Hawke


He was talking about you misappropriating comments, to him which he did
not post. This is not a new thing for you, or some innocent "first
mistake". You do this consistently and many folks can't even tell who
you are quoting.

I'm not that far off base on saying you don't know how to use a
newsreader, but you take it personally and start with the unprovoked
gratuitous attacks. That's why if you replace "you" with "I", you will
see that your projection of your own ignorance isn't fooling anyone. We
can see right through you.

Everything you write is about your own self. What a horrible life you
must live, based on what we can glimpse of your sad existence. Your
posts are a window into your miserable life, it's time you closed your
drapes, people are starting to stare.



Nice try Junior, but you're full of crap. I've been a member of this
newsgroup for years and there is no problem with people understanding me.
You're also full of crap saying anything about gratuitous personal
attacks. You're at that all day every day. So the pot should stop calling
the kettle black. You're the worst offender here. Just like you're the
worst political offender here who puts up more off topic anti Obama
threads than the rest of us combined. That kind of hypocrisy is simply
amazing.

The concept of someone like you even beginning to comment on my life is
again so far beyond your capability and understanding as to be laughable.
First of all, you know nothing. So anything you think is based on nothing
but your imagination. The truth is you are the transparent one here. Your
anti Obama jihad says a lot about you. You're far right wing views says a
lot. Your constant personal attacks says a lot. Add it up and you're the
one who is easy to read. Angry white male, conservative, low income,
poorly educated, underachiever, who tries to make up for his shortcomings
by making up lies about himself and tries to feel better about himself by
criticizing anyone not a member of his group. Yeah, I'd say you're pretty
easy to read.

Hawke


Replace every "you" with "I" in the above diatribe to get a view through the
window that is Hack's life.


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