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What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you
recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl |
which .45 cal?
wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. |
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:21:29 -0400, "Tom Gardner" at@at wrote:
wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Ive several "1911s" that hold 15 rounds ParaOrd P14s 14 in the mag, one up the spout. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg59-e.htm Mine are early "gunsmith only" "kits" that I stuck various 1911 slides on and then tuned and tweaked. My favorite has an AMT Hardballer Stainless slide and slide frame fit was done with a can of valve grinding compound over a week in front of the tv. Its smooth...and reliable. Its my "home" gun. Well..one of them G Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardner at@at wrote:
wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i |
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On 11/4/2010 9:06 PM, Ignoramus30154 wrote:
On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardnerat@at wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i It's also much easier to shoot accurately, faster, and almost all 9mms hold a lot of rounds these days. The Springfield XDs are real nice. You can't go wrong with one of them. The design is a lot more modern too and they are nearly indestructible. If you're set on a 1911 pattern gun Springfield is about as good as they come too. Hawke |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:06:47 -0500, Ignoramus30154
wrote: On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardner at@at wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i But only Half the stopping power. Or slightly less. Energy ratings are not the entire composition of a good bullet/cartridge design for use on human beings. Which is why few police departments carry the 9 anymore. Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
... wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Reply: Was just at the store and the guy said he likes the Rock Island. About $600 new depending on the model. http://www.google.com/search?q=rock+...rlz=1I7ADRA_en |
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Karl,
I'm hoping this doesn't drift into a 9mm vs. 45 debate. It would be off topic. I own both and they both have their strong points. Personally, I prefer the 45 for a multitude of reasons. However, the best are hand tuned customs, but they are expensive. In my opinion, none of the out-of-box 45's are acceptable to me. So, I would be looking for a core gun to customize and in that light, a colt model 70 or earlier is the best, but I am a pretty good gunsmith and I have the tools to build a custom. Even doing all the work yourself, it will be hard to be under $2,000 all in. Below are some considerations. 1) Standard chamber pressures with the standard barrel 12K CUP. 2) Safe pressures with a custom barrel 30K+ CUP. 3) Typical muzzle velocity increase between a 5" and 6" barrel, without a change in pressure 50 FPS 4) Two inch grouping at 50 meters is easily achievable. 5) Best bullet Hensley & Gibbs # 68 200 gr, SWC in Linotype. 6) My favorite load with the above bullet, custom barrel is 11.5 gr of Blue Dot. Steve wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl |
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On Nov 4, 3:15*pm, " wrote:
What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl Thanks for the suggestion and info. It will be a while before he can get one but I suspect he'll end up with .45 and 9mm. Speaking of different calibers what do you guys like in a .22? Karl |
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: What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl I'm right partial to the Taurus Judge series. The long Colt round has a lot of wallop. LLoyd |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:53:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:40:37 GMT, (Pinstripe Sniper) wrote: Ignoramus30154 wrote: Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i Oh no! - it's like somebody started an HP vs TI calculator debate starts popping popcorn PsS ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh very well done! Bravo!!! .... My dad likes his 45 1911. I like my Glock 17. We took both to the range a couple years ago and I was WAY more accurate with the Glock. I'm not the expert, was this the pistol or the round? Maybe both, but I do prefer hitting what I aim at. Stopping power is why I prefer the .308 and it holds more bullets than either the 45 or the 9MM. There, that should start a ****ing match. Karl |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:52:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:06:47 -0500, Ignoramus30154 wrote: Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i But only Half the stopping power. Or slightly less. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/849728/posts 20% different http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/calloadgoshin.htm 4-12% different That said, in a fight, my druthers: a 1911 over my Keltec P-11. Energy ratings are not the entire composition of a good bullet/cartridge design for use on human beings. Which is why few police departments carry the 9 anymore. What does it matter, the way cops (can't) aim? -- Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills. -- Minna Thomas Antrim |
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wrote in message
... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl For what? A Kimber is about as good as it gets, but a Norinco is reliable to just have around in case you need one and it costs less. If I was doing competition I'ld probably get a Colt Gold Cup and then have a little work done. Start with matching a barrel and block and some trigger polishing then go from there. |
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"Ignoramus30154" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardner at@at wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i And, my 9 stings like a hornet! After 50 rds of factory-type loads, my hand is numb. I can shoot my 1911 all day long. For me any load that puts a mark on the paper has enough energy. Although I've seen 50BMG pistols! |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message ... Stopping power is why I prefer the .308 and it holds more bullets than either the 45 or the 9MM. There, that should start a ****ing match. Karl And, your cost/bad-guy? crickets |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 06:18:51 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:53:01 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:40:37 GMT, (Pinstripe Sniper) wrote: Ignoramus30154 wrote: Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i Oh no! - it's like somebody started an HP vs TI calculator debate starts popping popcorn PsS ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh very well done! Bravo!!! ... My dad likes his 45 1911. I like my Glock 17. We took both to the range a couple years ago and I was WAY more accurate with the Glock. I'm not the expert, was this the pistol or the round? It's the shooter. The 1911 is capable of excellent accuracy, but it takes a lot of practice. Some say that's part of why the US Army abandoned the 1911 in favor of the 9mmp Beretta. The only handgun I shoot better than my 1911 is a .357 revolver with 6" barrel. I shoot that one and the 1911 better than I shoot any of our .22's, probably because I shoot them more often. Mary prefers the ..22's and she shoots them well. She has no problem with recoil, but she doesn't like the flash of the larger calibers. |
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:15:14 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl If by "Colt .45" you mean a 1911 design, Springfield is a good bet. They offer several models from the basic "government" model up thru match-grade models. Their rep for standing behind their products is excellent. A dealer I know favors Springfield and Para, though he carries several other brands as well. I own a Springfield 1911 and I'm very satisfied with it. I also have a Colt. The Springfield is definitely the better gun. The only handgun I shoot more accurately than the Springfield 1911 is a S&W 626 revolver in .357 magnum with 6" barrel. Kimber & Taurus have offerings, but you're SOL if you have a problem. If you really want a Kimber or Taurus, he'll sell it to you but reluctantly. Para makes excellent handguns and their customer support is exemplary, but they're a bit pricey. I own a Para LDA 9mmp and am very pleased with it. There are several "cheap" 1911's on the market, none of which I'd care to own. They're poorly-made, not accurate and of questionable reliability. |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:41:31 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:52:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:06:47 -0500, Ignoramus30154 wrote: Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i But only Half the stopping power. Or slightly less. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/849728/posts 20% different http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/calloadgoshin.htm 4-12% different That said, in a fight, my druthers: a 1911 over my Keltec P-11. Energy ratings are not the entire composition of a good bullet/cartridge design for use on human beings. Which is why few police departments carry the 9 anymore. What does it matter, the way cops (can't) aim? Some cops cant, its true. But lots of cops can aim well enough to hit their opponents. http://social.jrank.org/pages/1333/L...Shootings.html On the other hand...they occasionally shoot when they shouldnt... http://dogblog.dogster.com/2010/10/0...-own-backyard/ (Note its Oakland, California...so trigger happy cops are expected) Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 07:50:10 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl For what? A Kimber is about as good as it gets, but a Norinco is reliable to just have around in case you need one and it costs less. If I was doing competition I'ld probably get a Colt Gold Cup and then have a little work done. Start with matching a barrel and block and some trigger polishing then go from there. A Gold Cup has had all that stuff done to it already. Unfortunatley..they have been tuned to shoot light, low pressure target ammo and shooting normal ammo can harm them..beat them up badly. If you get a Gold Cup..replace all the springs with Wolf combat springs, first off. Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
Stopping power is why I prefer the .308 and it holds more bullets than either the 45 or the 9MM. There, that should start a ****ing match. You conceal carry that in leather or kydex? Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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"Califbill" wrote:
45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload What? I'd like to find 2 cent primers again and 6 grains of most powders put you at another 2 cents. Not to mention the cost of lead if you cast. Wes |
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"Snag" wrote:
I like my Ruger P90 . DA/SA , decock , ambi safety , and I have small hands . I've always been partial to Rugers , as they tend to fit my small hands better than most . That isn't a little gun. It is my bedside firearm. A point and click solution if someone intrudes uninvited. I never cared for the DA/SA transition and bought a S&W M&P 40 compact for carry. After adding the Apex sear and striker block parts, it is a fine firearm. Wes |
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On 2010-11-05, Libtardopia Lost at@at wrote:
"Ignoramus30154" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardner at@at wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i And, my 9 stings like a hornet! After 50 rds of factory-type loads, my hand is numb. I can shoot my 1911 all day long. For me any load that puts a mark on the paper has enough energy. Although I've seen 50BMG pistols! My 9mm is super nice and I can shoot it all day long. The longest I did was 1.5 hours or so. i |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:11:25 -0500, Ignoramus7928
wrote: On 2010-11-05, Libtardopia Lost at@at wrote: "Ignoramus30154" wrote in message ... On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardner at@at wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i And, my 9 stings like a hornet! After 50 rds of factory-type loads, my hand is numb. I can shoot my 1911 all day long. For me any load that puts a mark on the paper has enough energy. Although I've seen 50BMG pistols! My 9mm is super nice and I can shoot it all day long. The longest I did was 1.5 hours or so. i Did the guy ever go down? Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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"Hawke" wrote in message ... On 11/4/2010 9:06 PM, Ignoramus30154 wrote: On 2010-11-05, Tom Gardnerat@at wrote: wrote in message ... What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl What's the budget? Spend that...and just a bit more. What's the application? Does he reload? In general, you get what you pay for, unless you get ripped-off or fall into a spectacular deal. You probably won't get away for less than $600 used. BUT, 1911s are the best platform ever! .45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload, more accurate than I am, low-pressure, forgiving cartridge, gentile recoil and just "feels" right. The only downside is the low-capacity magazines. Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i It's also much easier to shoot accurately, faster, and almost all 9mms hold a lot of rounds these days. The Springfield XDs are real nice. You can't go wrong with one of them. The design is a lot more modern too and they are nearly indestructible. If you're set on a 1911 pattern gun Springfield is about as good as they come too. I love my XD-9, but now that the XD now comes in 45 ACP, you can have the best of both worlds. No brainer. |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:15:50 -0400, Wes
wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: Stopping power is why I prefer the .308 and it holds more bullets than either the 45 or the 9MM. There, that should start a ****ing match. You conceal carry that in leather or kydex? Neither. It's a GAT. Speaking of which, how's your little .22 gat coming? -- Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills. -- Minna Thomas Antrim |
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Wes wrote:
"Snag" wrote: I like my Ruger P90 . DA/SA , decock , ambi safety , and I have small hands . I've always been partial to Rugers , as they tend to fit my small hands better than most . That isn't a little gun. It is my bedside firearm. A point and click solution if someone intrudes uninvited. I never cared for the DA/SA transition and bought a S&W M&P 40 compact for carry. After adding the Apex sear and striker block parts, it is a fine firearm. Wes Mine resides next to the bed too ... my daily carry is a Davis Ind. two-hole derringer in .38 spl . I keep it in the pocket where most men carry their wallet - surprise !! As far as the DA/SA , I like the fact that I can carry with one in the chamber and the safety off , and don't have to worry about cocking for that first round . I've never felt comfortable carrying one "cocked and locked" . -- Snag Learning keeps you young ! |
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I make metal targets for handgun and rifle.
You know - slam metal into metal. Kinda neat seeing a round dot of lead powder where a bullet vaporized. Martin On 11/5/2010 11:17 AM, John Doe wrote: "kfvorwerk gmail.com"kfvorwerk gmail.com wrote: What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? And what the **** does this have to do with metalworking? |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Califbill" wrote: 45 ACP costs me less than 3 cents each to reload What? I'd like to find 2 cent primers again and 6 grains of most powders put you at another 2 cents. Not to mention the cost of lead if you cast. Wes Wideners had Wolf primers on sale a while back at $19/k in 5k lots...I bought 20k and picked up 16 lbs of IMR 700-x for $50 from a gunshop going out of business. My load for .45 is 3.5gr. 6gr would damage my 1911. Even at full price of $110/8lb that's 56,000 grains or 16,000 rounds or $0.006875 worth of powder per round. With free lead, electricity and labor, my actual cost per round is $0.025875 ...which is less than 3 cents each. Did you think I was pulling your leg? And, Wolf primers are just fine! Not a single problem even in my light hitting revolvers. Wideners has them at $19/k NOW! http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|284|737 IMR 700-X 8 pound caddy at $107 but they are out of stock GREAT POWDER! http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8453&dir=278|283|310 I shoot about 1k/month so my equipment has paid for itself many times compared to factory. |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:41:31 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:52:31 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:06:47 -0500, Ignoramus30154 wrote: Do you know that a typical 9mm bullet has 90% of the energy of a .45 ACP bullet? i But only Half the stopping power. Or slightly less. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/849728/posts 20% different http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/calloadgoshin.htm 4-12% different That said, in a fight, my druthers: a 1911 over my Keltec P-11. Energy ratings are not the entire composition of a good bullet/cartridge design for use on human beings. Which is why few police departments carry the 9 anymore. What does it matter, the way cops (can't) aim? Some cops cant, its true. But lots of cops can aim well enough to hit their opponents. http://social.jrank.org/pages/1333/L...Shootings.html On the other hand...they occasionally shoot when they shouldnt... http://dogblog.dogster.com/2010/10/0...-own-backyard/ (Note its Oakland, California...so trigger happy cops are expected) Some can still hit a target after being stabbed several times: http://www.wftv.com/news/25645292/detail.html -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On 11/5/2010 11:04 AM, Don Foreman wrote:
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:15:14 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: What brand/model reasonably priced Colt .45 style pistol would you recommend? Good quality of course. My nephew is starting his research into them and wants some suggestions. Thanhks Karl If by "Colt .45" you mean a 1911 design, Springfield is a good bet. They offer several models from the basic "government" model up thru match-grade models. Their rep for standing behind their products is excellent. A dealer I know favors Springfield and Para, though he carries several other brands as well. I own a Springfield 1911 and I'm very satisfied with it. I also have a Colt. The Springfield is definitely the better gun. The only handgun I shoot more accurately than the Springfield 1911 is a S&W 626 revolver in .357 magnum with 6" barrel. Kimber& Taurus have offerings, but you're SOL if you have a problem. If you really want a Kimber or Taurus, he'll sell it to you but reluctantly. Para makes excellent handguns and their customer support is exemplary, but they're a bit pricey. I own a Para LDA 9mmp and am very pleased with it. There are several "cheap" 1911's on the market, none of which I'd care to own. They're poorly-made, not accurate and of questionable reliability. Sometimes that is true but not always. I have a friend that has a Charles Daly 1911 he bought new for 350.00 and it had all the bells and whistles that the "good" guns have. While I will admit that cosmetically it's not so great as far as accuracy and reliability are concerned it's as good as most 1800 dollar 1911s I've seen. That Daly shoots great and it never seems to jam no matter what it's fed. By the way, it's made in the Philippines. So don't think that you have to spend a lot of money to get a good 1911. They're out there. I have another friend that bought a used Kimber Classic for about 500. and it's a really nice gun. Personally, if I was looking for a 1911 I'd be looking for a nice condition used gun. So many people buy guns and then let them sit in their safe that a brand name 1911 that you can buy used is just as good as a new one. Because most people buy the things but they rarely use them. Hawke |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
You conceal carry that in leather or kydex? Neither. It's a GAT. Speaking of which, how's your little .22 gat coming? It is right where it was when the snow melted this spring. I suspect in a couple weeks when I'm snow bound again, I'll turn on the heat in my machine room and resume working on it. Wes |
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