Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

"Ignoramus17745" wrote in message
...
Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

A bud has two, one shoots OK-ish, the other will dot an "i" at 200 yds.
They often don't get the respect they deserve.

On 2010-10-05, Buerste wrote:

"Ignoramus17745" wrote in message
...
Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

A bud has two, one shoots OK-ish, the other will dot an "i" at 200 yds.
They often don't get the respect they deserve.

I doubt that mine is a very accurate rifle, but I have not yet tried
it.

i

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:03:52 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-05, Buerste wrote:

"Ignoramus17745" wrote in message
...
Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

A bud has two, one shoots OK-ish, the other will dot an "i" at 200 yds.
They often don't get the respect they deserve.

I doubt that mine is a very accurate rifle, but I have not yet tried
it.

Hell, Ig. If the barrel has a minor bend, and it shoots around
corners, just set the scope to shoot around the same corner. No
biggie.

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:34:06 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote:


"Ignoramus17745" wrote in message
...
Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

A bud has two, one shoots OK-ish, the other will dot an "i" at 200 yds.
They often don't get the respect they deserve.

Check out the M39 Finns..they are captured and reworked MNs and are
incredibly accurate. More so than a star gauged Springfield.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishmosin/index.asp

These are the only MNs that I bother handloading for. I keep thinking
about scoping one......

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On 2010-10-09, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:34:06 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote:


"Ignoramus17745" wrote in message
...
Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

A bud has two, one shoots OK-ish, the other will dot an "i" at 200 yds.
They often don't get the respect they deserve.

Check out the M39 Finns..they are captured and reworked MNs and are
incredibly accurate. More so than a star gauged Springfield.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishmosin/index.asp

These are the only MNs that I bother handloading for. I keep thinking
about scoping one......

I put a scope on mine, works great. It is easy, too.

i

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:12:35 -0500, Ignoramus17745
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

Amazing. She does look clean.


The bayonet is cool too.

The spikes are my favorite, too. I have one for my SKS, but haven't
installed it.


All I can say is wow.

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:12:35 -0500, Ignoramus17745
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

Amazing. She does look clean.

I looked all over for evidence of use. I looked for scratches, gouges,
wear where sliding parts come in contact, wear from safety being
repeatedly engages, etc, and found nothing.


The bayonet is cool too.

The spikes are my favorite, too. I have one for my SKS, but haven't
installed it.

I actually prefer bladed bayonets, they are much more versatile.


All I can say is wow.

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

i

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:03:25 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:12:35 -0500, Ignoramus17745
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

Amazing. She does look clean.

I looked all over for evidence of use. I looked for scratches, gouges,
wear where sliding parts come in contact, wear from safety being
repeatedly engages, etc, and found nothing.

Bore shiny, sharp, and perfect?


The bayonet is cool too.

The spikes are my favorite, too. I have one for my SKS, but haven't
installed it.

I actually prefer bladed bayonets, they are much more versatile.

For use off the rifle, or what?


All I can say is wow.

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

Damned good deal. Does the guy have any more like that? $80 for a
decent, long-range, sniperable rifle is a pittance. They do take a
lot of cleaning with that corrosive ammo, though.

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:03:25 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:12:35 -0500, Ignoramus17745
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

Amazing. She does look clean.

I looked all over for evidence of use. I looked for scratches, gouges,
wear where sliding parts come in contact, wear from safety being
repeatedly engages, etc, and found nothing.

Bore shiny, sharp, and perfect?

It looks OK, it does seem shiny, but I am not sure about perfect.


The bayonet is cool too.

The spikes are my favorite, too. I have one for my SKS, but haven't
installed it.

I actually prefer bladed bayonets, they are much more versatile.

For use off the rifle, or what?

For all kinds of uses


All I can say is wow.

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

Damned good deal. Does the guy have any more like that? $80 for a
decent, long-range, sniperable rifle is a pittance. They do take a
lot of cleaning with that corrosive ammo, though.


No, it was just one. I am not personally sure that the rifle can be
easily fitted with optic sight. It has a round receiver.

i

On Oct 5, 9:36*am, Ignoramus25694 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25694.invalid wrote:
On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:





On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:03:25 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:12:35 -0500, Ignoramus17745
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

* *http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

Amazing. *She does look clean.

I looked all over for evidence of use. I looked for scratches, gouges,
wear where sliding parts come in contact, wear from safety being
repeatedly engages, etc, and found nothing.

Bore shiny, sharp, and perfect?

It looks OK, it does seem shiny, but I am not sure about perfect.



The bayonet is cool too.

The spikes are my favorite, too. *I have one for my SKS, but haven't
installed it.

I actually prefer bladed bayonets, they are much more versatile.

For use off the rifle, or what?

For all kinds of uses



All I can say is wow.

Ditto. *What'd ya give for her?

$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

Damned good deal. *Does the guy have any more like that? *$80 for a
decent, long-range, sniperable rifle is a pittance. *They do take a
lot of cleaning with that corrosive ammo, though.

No, it was just one. I am not personally sure that the rifle can be
easily fitted with optic sight. It has a round receiver.

i- Hide quoted text -

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Iggy,
Many rifles have round receivers.... Drill & tap is the common
procedure for putting mounts on these types of receivers.

For example, Mauser 98's are case hardened, and require a bit of spot
annealing before you drill.

Ignoramus25694 wrote:

No, it was just one. I am not personally sure that the rifle can be
easily fitted with optic sight. It has a round receiver.

Easy for a qualified gunsmith, or even a decent machinist. Scope mount
milled to match the receiver's radius, a few screw holes drilled and
tapped.

On 10/5/2010 9:36 AM, Ignoramus25694 wrote:

No, it was just one. I am not personally sure that the rifle can be
easily fitted with optic sight. It has a round receiver.

How about a long eye relief scope mounted on the rear sight base?

http://dutchman.rebooty.com/ler.html

Down toward the bottom of the page he shows an M-N mount and some info
about other makers.

David

On 10/5/2010 9:36 AM, Ignoramus25694 wrote:

No, it was just one. I am not personally sure that the rifle can be
easily fitted with optic sight. It has a round receiver.

How about a long eye relief scope mounted on the rear sight base?

http://dutchman.rebooty.com/ler.html

Down toward the bottom of the page he shows an M-N mount and some info
about other makers.

David

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 09:36:44 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:03:25 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-05, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:12:35 -0500, Ignoramus17745
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

Amazing. She does look clean.

I looked all over for evidence of use. I looked for scratches, gouges,
wear where sliding parts come in contact, wear from safety being
repeatedly engages, etc, and found nothing.

Bore shiny, sharp, and perfect?

It looks OK, it does seem shiny, but I am not sure about perfect.


The bayonet is cool too.

The spikes are my favorite, too. I have one for my SKS, but haven't
installed it.

I actually prefer bladed bayonets, they are much more versatile.

For use off the rifle, or what?

For all kinds of uses


All I can say is wow.

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

Damned good deal. Does the guy have any more like that? $80 for a
decent, long-range, sniperable rifle is a pittance. They do take a
lot of cleaning with that corrosive ammo, though.


No, it was just one. I am not personally sure that the rifle can be
easily fitted with optic sight. It has a round receiver.

i

They can.

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

Ignoramus25694 wrote:

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

i


Today, not bad, a while back too much if you had a 03 ffl. If the condition is really
good, just smile and enjoy a piece of your heritage. Lots of Nazi's didn't go home due to
M/N rifles. American arms tend to be sports cars. Russion arms more like tractors. Both
get a job done.


Wes

On 2010-10-06, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus25694 wrote:

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

i


Today, not bad, a while back too much if you had a 03 ffl. If the condition is really
good, just smile and enjoy a piece of your heritage. Lots of Nazi's didn't go home due to
M/N rifles. American arms tend to be sports cars. Russion arms more like tractors. Both
get a job done.

I personally admire American precision rifles. (say, Remington 700).

i

Ignoramus25694 wrote:

Today, not bad, a while back too much if you had a 03 ffl. If the condition is really
good, just smile and enjoy a piece of your heritage. Lots of Nazi's didn't go home due to
M/N rifles. American arms tend to be sports cars. Russion arms more like tractors. Both
get a job done.

I personally admire American precision rifles. (say, Remington 700).

I admire how Russians can make something that works that a peasant with a bit of education
can keep working. My sports car and tractor comment was praise for a different way of
thinking.

For example, we have bought these for the Afghans.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...air-force.html

Then there was the Mig-25 that had one main purpose. However, we, using our biases,
thought was something else. We of course made the F-15 to counter it. Being a phormer
phantom phixer, I like air craft that have engines that could make a brick fly. Think
J79.

The Russian a/c was a single mode for the most part a/c but the F15 had to do everything
and do it well. That is why American warfighting tools are so darn expensive.



Wes

--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:34:39 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-06, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus25694 wrote:

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

i


Today, not bad, a while back too much if you had a 03 ffl. If the condition is really
good, just smile and enjoy a piece of your heritage. Lots of Nazi's didn't go home due to
M/N rifles. American arms tend to be sports cars. Russion arms more like tractors. Both
get a job done.

I personally admire American precision rifles. (say, Remington 700).

Well.....the 700 is a good foundation for a precision rifle..but out of
the box..hardly "precision"

Gunner

i


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:54:48 -0400, Wes
wrote:

Ignoramus25694 wrote:

Ditto. What'd ya give for her?


$82.77. Not the cheapest ever deal, but pretty good for what looks
like a new rifle.

i


Today, not bad, a while back too much if you had a 03 ffl. If the condition is really
good, just smile and enjoy a piece of your heritage. Lots of Nazi's didn't go home due to
M/N rifles. American arms tend to be sports cars. Russion arms more like tractors. Both
get a job done.


Wes

"Americans went to war with target rifles
Germans went war with hunting rifles
Brits went to war with battle rifles"

Russians went to war with tractors

G

Gunner



I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On 10/9/2010 3:38 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

"Americans went to war with target rifles
Germans went war with hunting rifles
Brits went to war with battle rifles"

Russians went to war with tractors

G

Gunner

And the T34/76 was a really GOOD tractor!

David

Ignoramus17745 wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

I have a few mosin's and a few nagants.

The M44 is a beast, short and stubby, arsensal refinished.

A number of other M/N rifle types.

And three 1895 revolvers. One actually has a decent trigger believe it or not. I should
shoot one someday.

So far I have English, French, Swiss, German, American, Russian, and Yugoslavian military
firearms. Sure wish I had scored a bent bolt 6.5 Swede in the good days when they were
cheap and easy to obtain but I wasn't into collecting then.

I may have missed a country or two. Austrian, I have some straight pulls, almost forgot.
Forgot the two sporter type 99 arisaka's.

Wes

--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On 2010-10-06, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus17745 wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

I have a few mosin's and a few nagants.

The M44 is a beast, short and stubby, arsensal refinished.

A number of other M/N rifle types.

And three 1895 revolvers. One actually has a decent trigger believe it or not. I should
shoot one someday.

So far I have English, French, Swiss, German, American, Russian, and Yugoslavian military
firearms. Sure wish I had scored a bent bolt 6.5 Swede in the good days when they were
cheap and easy to obtain but I wasn't into collecting then.

I may have missed a country or two. Austrian, I have some straight pulls, almost forgot.
Forgot the two sporter type 99 arisaka's.

Nice collection!

i

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:34:01 -0500, Ignoramus25694
wrote:

On 2010-10-06, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus17745 wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

I have a few mosin's and a few nagants.

The M44 is a beast, short and stubby, arsensal refinished.

A number of other M/N rifle types.

And three 1895 revolvers. One actually has a decent trigger believe it or not. I should
shoot one someday.

So far I have English, French, Swiss, German, American, Russian, and Yugoslavian military
firearms. Sure wish I had scored a bent bolt 6.5 Swede in the good days when they were
cheap and easy to obtain but I wasn't into collecting then.

I may have missed a country or two. Austrian, I have some straight pulls, almost forgot.
Forgot the two sporter type 99 arisaka's.

Nice collection!

i

Not a bad start!!

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On 10/5/2010 7:49 PM, Wes wrote:
wrote:

Finally took possession of this 91/30. It was a local transaction,
just took a bit long.

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Mosin-Nagant-1/

Based on in depth look, this rifle appears unissued. The safety on the
bolt, after repeated use, should leave a mark (gouge) on the receiver,
and the mark is missing. The rifle has no signs of use (no scratches
or gouges).

The bayonet is cool too.

All I can say is wow.

i

I have a few mosin's and a few nagants.

The M44 is a beast, short and stubby, arsensal refinished.

A number of other M/N rifle types.

And three 1895 revolvers. One actually has a decent trigger believe it or not. I should
shoot one someday.

So far I have English, French, Swiss, German, American, Russian, and Yugoslavian military
firearms. Sure wish I had scored a bent bolt 6.5 Swede in the good days when they were
cheap and easy to obtain but I wasn't into collecting then.

I may have missed a country or two. Austrian, I have some straight pulls, almost forgot.
Forgot the two sporter type 99 arisaka's.

What, no Spaniards?

--
I can see November from my front porch

RBnDFW wrote:

I may have missed a country or two. Austrian, I have some straight pulls, almost forgot.
Forgot the two sporter type 99 arisaka's.

What, no Spaniards?

Sorry no. Just saw flyer from AIM, they want $300 for romanian sks's on a 03 license.
Collecting got a bit too rich for my current pay scale. I think the last really good deal
was the 7.5 swiss rifles and that was a long time ago. I am so thankfull I got some
mausers back in the 89-129 dollar days.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On 2010-10-06, Wes wrote:
RBnDFW wrote:

I may have missed a country or two. Austrian, I have some straight pulls, almost forgot.
Forgot the two sporter type 99 arisaka's.

What, no Spaniards?

Sorry no. Just saw flyer from AIM, they want $300 for romanian sks's on a 03 license.
Collecting got a bit too rich for my current pay scale. I think the last really good deal
was the 7.5 swiss rifles and that was a long time ago. I am so thankfull I got some
mausers back in the 89-129 dollar days.

Wes

Yep, the Mausers are very expensive nowadays. I think that a lot of
them was destroyed past=WWII, unlike the Mosins which were warehoused.

i