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Into the "WAY BACK MACHINE"
More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I
made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. P.S. Before anybody suggests it, I have had a couple hunting vest and I just do not like them. In rough country birds can fall out and a stunned one that comes back to life can be a real adventure in and of itself. |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. P.S. Before anybody suggests it, I have had a couple hunting vest and I just do not like them. In rough country birds can fall out and a stunned one that comes back to life can be a real adventure in and of itself. I had a fishing creel with that kind of mechanism. I got it 51 years ago and just tossed it around 2006. g I never cut through the fabric to see how the spring worked, but it can't be too difficult to replicate, if you get to look at one closely. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. P.S. Before anybody suggests it, I have had a couple hunting vest and I just do not like them. In rough country birds can fall out and a stunned one that comes back to life can be a real adventure in and of itself. I had a fishing creel with that kind of mechanism. I got it 51 years ago and just tossed it around 2006. g I woulda paid you a couple bucks for it just for the mechanism. LOL. I looked for them before. Maybe ten years ago, so I don't think they have made the metal ones for a long time. |
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Into the "WAY BACK MACHINE"
Check Ohio travel bag.
They may have the hardware. http://www.ohiotravelbag.com/ Unfortunately their online catalog is some annoying "Flash" software. but if you rummage around long enough, you just might get what you need. Paul K. Dickman "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. |
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Into the "WAY BACK MACHINE"
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. For anybody else who might have been interested. Ohio Travel Bag Catalog Page 35 http://www.ohiotravelbag.com/FlipBoo...210/index.html |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in
: "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. For anybody else who might have been interested. Ohio Travel Bag Catalog Page 35 http://www.ohiotravelbag.com/FlipBoo...20p210/index.h tml Bingo! Nice find. If you decide to try to get soem of these, let us know if you succeeed in getting the from OTB, or if you end up going through Hardware Elf. Doug White |
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"Doug White" wrote in message
. .. "Bob La Londe" wrote in : "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. For anybody else who might have been interested. Ohio Travel Bag Catalog Page 35 http://www.ohiotravelbag.com/FlipBoo...20p210/index.h tml Bingo! Nice find. If you decide to try to get soem of these, let us know if you succeeed in getting the from OTB, or if you end up going through Hardware Elf. They sell business to business if you are manufacturing. For onesy twosey you need to buy retail or through distribution. Doug White |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
... "Doug White" wrote in message . .. "Bob La Londe" wrote in : "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... More than a couple years ago (25? 30?), when I was getting into hunting I made my own game bag for birds. I took some left over medium weight canvas and made a simple deep bag with a shoulder strap. That's still pretty easy as long as the wife doesn't catch me messing with one of her fancy sewing machines. I think I sewed the original by hand. I used the metal closer out of an old fishing bag in the top. It was wonderful. If one of the birds I dropped in the bag started flapping again it couldn't get away. When I opened the bag the spring/mechanism would hold the bag open, and when I closed it the thing would be held closed. It really was the best possible game bag for small migratory and upland bird hunting. And even as bad as I shoot it would hold all my empty shells so I didn't have to stuff them in my pockets. My son expressed an interest in doing some bird hunting last year. I wasn't sure if it would stick since he only dropped one bird and he lost it in heavy brush, but he again expressed an interest this year. We have been out three days, and we shot limits on two of them. (When I broke down and headed out to my old stomping grounds on the second day.) Now I am thinking about that old game bag of mine. I had stored it with lots of other stuff from that time in my life in an old metal storage shed at my dad's house. A metal storage shed that has long since blown away. So I am looking at making a couple game bags like that one. I considered buying a couple of those fishing bags and cannibalizing the spring mechanism out of them, but they are all plastic now, and they don't have that nice crisp snap to hold open and snap to hold closed like the metal ones. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've got some 0.080" stainless spring wire, and I am sure if I coil a couple springs in it that it would make an adequate closer, but if it gets over stressed on opening it will quit being a good closer. Also, there are times when you WANT your game bag to stay open and it definitely won't do that just made up as a simple mechanism. For anybody else who might have been interested. Ohio Travel Bag Catalog Page 35 http://www.ohiotravelbag.com/FlipBoo...20p210/index.h tml Bingo! Nice find. If you decide to try to get soem of these, let us know if you succeeed in getting the from OTB, or if you end up going through Hardware Elf. They sell business to business if you are manufacturing. For onesy twosey you need to buy retail or through distribution. Ok... here is the summary. I did get a price to buy them retail from OTB, but I thought it was kinda high. I got the impression that if I had said I intended to manufacture and sell a product made with these the price would have been substantially different. I try not to lie to people however. I tried Hardware Elf and was unable to find it at all. Then for the heck of it I tried Amazon and found several different sizes listed with another name. The key for me was to know the name of the product to search for. The name to search for is "Spring Frame" or "Purse Spring Frame." |
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