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Odd engine miss problem
Had a curious event happen today. The family went out to Sweet Tomatoes
(salad bar buffet restaurant chain) today, my 20 year-old daughter drove the 2000 Toyota Siena van. While getting on the highway, she floored it for about 10-15 seconds to be able to merge in front of a monster RV (greyhoud-bus class). She commented about the car "shaking" right after that. I didn't notice it at first, but soon it was more pronounced, felt like an intermittent miss. Later, it got worse, I stopped by an auto parts store on the way back home and bought a set of spark plugs, taking a wild stab at what it might be, and knowing they hadn't been changed in forever. The rear plugs are a total bear on this car, but the internet helped me find out you take the cowl panel with the windshield wiper mechanism out to get access to the rear bank of the engine. One plug of the rear bank had the ground electrode bent all the way against the center electrode. I don't THINK I manhandled it enough to do that getting the plug out of the well and past the intake manifold, but I can't be absolutely sure of that. Obviously, the plug wasn't like that before the misbehavior, could a severe knock do that to a plug? Could a chunk of carbon have come off the piston and crunched the plug electrode? It was bent, but not totally smashed. This car has no distributor, and has 3 spark coils. So, each coil serves two cylinders. What happens if one plug is shorted? Does that short out the other plug, too? Was the other cylinder missing intermittently, as the coil barely had enough current to make a weak spark with one plug shorted? The shorted plug was on the branch with the long plug wire, the coils are on top of the front bank plugs. Got all the plugs back in, started it up and it ran smoothly. I didn't drive it yet, but before the work it was running so badly I thought it might leave us stranded. Unless it needs the leaner mixture for a warmed-up engine to misbehave, it sure feels like it is fixed. The check engine light came on as we were driving home, I was waiting for that to happen. Anyway, has anyone had an experience like this, where there was very obvious ignition miss immediately after a full throttle acceleration? I've had plenty of dirty spark plugs and bad plug wires over the years, and they generally slowly got worse. I've never had a miss develop suddenly while driving. All the old plugs looked quite normal, although the gaps were all worn a bit. Jon |
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