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Ignoramus28874 August 16th 10 07:02 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392

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Cross-Slide August 16th 10 09:07 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On Aug 16, 1:02*pm, Ignoramus28874 ignoramus28...@NOSPAM.
28874.invalid wrote:
I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392

i


Some "Hand Crafted" junk is made on a contraption with 10 or more
router spindles, and as many spindles to mount the work. All the work
spindles are geared together, maybe with bicycle chains, and the
(operator/carver/artist) carves one object and gets 9 "copies" at the
same time, more or less the same minus the slack in the chains and
linkages. Like a 3D pantograph, with multiple parts made at once.

Technically it is sort of "Hand Crafted"


[email protected] August 16th 10 09:09 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On Aug 16, 11:02*am, Ignoramus28874 ignoramus28...@NOSPAM.
28874.invalid wrote:
I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392

i


Looks to me like burned into the wood with a branding iron, except all
seem to be of the exact same depth. I guess hand crafted could mean
they were clamped into a wood CNC mill by hand?

I had a book on Runes that I gave to a grandson when he was into stuff
like that. Many of the German houses/buildings are framed in Runes.
The book also gives the body positions to simulate Runes.

Paul

Spehro Pefhany August 16th 10 09:54 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:29:22 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote:

On 8/16/2010 10:02 AM, Ignoramus28874 wrote:

I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.



"Handcrafted" is probably as abused a term as "Billet"...


Jon


And "aircraft grade". Saw "airport grade" driveway sealer at the borg
yesterday.



Jon Anderson August 16th 10 10:29 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On 8/16/2010 10:02 AM, Ignoramus28874 wrote:

I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.



"Handcrafted" is probably as abused a term as "Billet"...


Jon

Michael Koblic[_2_] August 17th 10 01:33 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:29:22 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote:

On 8/16/2010 10:02 AM, Ignoramus28874 wrote:

I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.



"Handcrafted" is probably as abused a term as "Billet"...


Jon


And "aircraft grade". Saw "airport grade" driveway sealer at the borg
yesterday.



"Surgical steel"



Brian Lawson August 17th 10 02:02 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:54:25 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:


And "aircraft grade". Saw "airport grade" driveway sealer at the borg
yesterday.



Hey Speff,

"the borg"...????? wuzzat???

Brian Lawson

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] August 17th 10 02:06 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
Brian Lawson fired this volley in
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"the borg"...????? wuzzat???


The "Big Box in the Sky". Lowes, Home Despots, Menard's... etc...

LLoyd

J. Clarke August 17th 10 02:33 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On 8/16/2010 9:02 PM, Brian Lawson wrote:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:54:25 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:


And "aircraft grade". Saw "airport grade" driveway sealer at the borg
yesterday.



Hey Speff,

"the borg"...????? wuzzat???


"Big Orange Retail Giant" aka Home Despot, and by extension Lowes and
the rest. A play on words also--the slogan of the Borg in Star Trek was
"You will be assimilated".


Pete C. August 17th 10 02:42 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 

Ignoramus28874 wrote:

I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392

i


There is a good chance those items actually are hand crafted by children
in a third world country making $10/day if they're lucky.

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] August 17th 10 02:50 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
"Pete C." fired this volley in news:4c69e96a$0$1886
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$10/day if they're lucky.


A MONTH, Pete.

Little 8-year-old girls die annually in China working on the 2nd or 3rd
story of a fireworks building where the really _dangerous_ stuff is done
on the 1st floor (so the supervisors can get out quickly).

Those kids make roughly $0.90 per DAY (before their "expenses" are
deducted by the supervisor) doing the dirtiest, most dangerous work their
country has to offer.

LLoyd

Dennis August 17th 10 03:01 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
"Pete C." fired this volley in news:4c69e96a$0$1886
:

$10/day if they're lucky.


A MONTH, Pete.

Little 8-year-old girls die annually in China working on the 2nd or 3rd
story of a fireworks building where the really _dangerous_ stuff is done
on the 1st floor (so the supervisors can get out quickly).

Those kids make roughly $0.90 per DAY (before their "expenses" are
deducted by the supervisor) doing the dirtiest, most dangerous work their
country has to offer.

LLoyd



We have the misfortune of having an in-law who has relocated to China and
runs a business there. When questioned about how workers are treated & paid,
his reply is that "at least I make sure the supervisors dont beat my
workers". Nice hey.



Ignoramus28874 August 17th 10 03:09 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On 2010-08-16, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:29:22 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote:

On 8/16/2010 10:02 AM, Ignoramus28874 wrote:

I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.



"Handcrafted" is probably as abused a term as "Billet"...


Jon


And "aircraft grade". Saw "airport grade" driveway sealer at the borg
yesterday.


And what about "natural" and "heavy duty". These are the most abused.

Example

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-3-Heavy-Duty...-/290464730789

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Larry Jaques[_3_] August 17th 10 03:48 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:02:02 -0500, Ignoramus28874
wrote:

I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392


They ran a sheet of sandpaper over the CNCed parts, then sprayed them
with a rattle can. Handcrafted! ;)

--
Invest in America: Buy a CONgresscritter today!

Jim Wilkins August 17th 10 11:58 AM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
On Aug 16, 10:01*pm, "Dennis" wrote:
...
We have the misfortune of having an in-law who has relocated to China and
runs a business there. When questioned about how workers are treated & paid,
his reply is that "at least I make sure the supervisors dont beat my
workers". Nice hey.


Communism, the Workers' Paradise.

pyotr filipivich August 17th 10 08:15 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
Ignoramus28874 on Mon, 16 Aug
2010 13:02:02 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392


Some could. Having done totally hand crafter stuff, you can't
afford what it cost me. What I'd do for a one off item is different
than for a series. Even if I was going to make them all using hand
tools, there comes a point where some kind of batch processing comes
to mind.

--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Jon Elson[_3_] August 19th 10 11:50 PM

Is most "handcrafted" stuff actually CNC'ed?
 
Ignoramus28874 wrote:
I am just thinking now, knowing what I know now, and wonder if many
things that are sold as "handcrafted" are actually mass produced,
CNCed etc.

Example

http://ef.algebra.com/e/330459440392

i

From some contacts in the CNC router industry, the Chinese are cranking
out wood routers in HUGE numbers for sale in the far east. India is
too, but in smaller quantities. They both are supplying kits to be
built in the destination country, using a bunch of tricks like a plywood
foundation that you pour full of a cement to make the work table. My
contact said some of these Chinese outfits are delivering up to 3000
machines a MONTH!

Some of this stuff is being used for architectural panels, decorative
railings and trellises, etc. but certainly a lot of thes sorts of items
Iggy mentions could also be done that way.

Jon


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