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ER Collet Experts...
I can hold a round shank in an ER-style collet.
I can hold a round shank and square tap shank at the same time in an ER-style collet... ....Anyone know of a manufacturer making ER-style collets to hold hex shank tooling? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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ER Collet Experts...
None that I know of You could hold them in a chuck or round off the end of the shank in a lathe good luck On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:05:01 -0400, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote: I can hold a round shank in an ER-style collet. I can hold a round shank and square tap shank at the same time in an ER-style collet... ...Anyone know of a manufacturer making ER-style collets to hold hex shank tooling? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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ER Collet Experts...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:05:01 -0400, "Joe AutoDrill"
wrote: snip ...Anyone know of a manufacturer making ER-style collets to hold hex shank tooling? snip How about EDMing one with a smaller hole? -- Unka George (George McDuffee) ............................... The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953). |
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ER Collet Experts...
"fleetwood" wrote in message
... None that I know of You could hold them in a chuck Not possible. I'm looking for close C-C spacing on multiple tools. The chuck is larger than the tool and the tools almost touch. or round off the end of the shank in a lathe Was considering it. Add a flat and a set screw farther down my spindle (already stock) and that might work. -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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ER Collet Experts...
"Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
...Anyone know of a manufacturer making ER-style collets to hold hex shank tooling? What qualities does the hex shank add to this process? I'd love to understand the reasoning behind this. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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ER Collet Experts...
What's that Lassie? You say that Joe AutoDrill fell down the old
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue by Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:05:01 -0400: ...Anyone know of a manufacturer making ER-style collets to hold hex shank tooling? Nope. But if your hex is small enough, you might press it into a sleeve that will fit in the largest ER collet your tool holder takes. IE: press a 1/4" hex shank into a 10mm OD sleeve to be held by a ER16 collet. -- Dan H. northshore MA. |
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ER Collet Experts...
What qualities does the hex shank add to this process? I'd love to
understand the reasoning behind this. The customer is buying a higher-end multiple spindle head product I offer with ER style collets on somewhere around 2" C-C spacing. He works in very, very high volume wood applciations and has decided to get away from their treaded and 10mm round shank tooling (industry standard there...) The tooling he uses is similar to a hole saw you would run in a hand drill but made for higer end work by Milwaukee. He does not want to go to custom tooling and this tooling happens to be made specifically for key-type chucks. Key-type chucks have a drawback in that dust, wood debris or even small chips can get in past the jaws and into the internals and ruin them over time. The ER style collets fix that problem for the customer but create the next problem which is what I am trying to solve here. The hex shank qualties added are inexpensive and readily available toolign that is tried and tested industry-wide by others. Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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ER Collet Experts...
On Aug 16, 7:23*am, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
What qualities does the hex shank add to this process? *I'd love to understand the reasoning behind this. The customer is buying a higher-end multiple spindle head product I offer with ER style collets on somewhere around 2" C-C spacing. He works in very, very high volume wood applciations and has decided to get away from their treaded and 10mm round shank tooling (industry standard there...) The tooling he uses is similar to a hole saw you would run in a hand drill but made for higer end work by Milwaukee. *He does not want to go to custom tooling and this tooling happens to be made specifically for key-type chucks. Key-type chucks have a drawback in that dust, wood debris or even small chips can get in past the jaws and into the internals and ruin them over time. *The ER style collets fix that problem for the customer but create the next problem which is what I am trying to solve here. The hex shank qualties added are inexpensive and readily available toolign that is tried and tested industry-wide by others. Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping:http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site:http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS:http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER:http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK:http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R You might try contacting Maritool.com see if Frank can get them for you. |
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ER Collet Experts...
On 2010-08-16, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
What qualities does the hex shank add to this process? I'd love to understand the reasoning behind this. Hex shanks are nice for gripping in standard drill chucks, because they grip on flats, and thus avoid slipping. The customer is buying a higher-end multiple spindle head product I offer with ER style collets on somewhere around 2" C-C spacing. [ ... ] The tooling he uses is similar to a hole saw you would run in a hand drill but made for higer end work by Milwaukee. He does not want to go to custom tooling and this tooling happens to be made specifically for key-type chucks. Key-type chucks have a drawback in that dust, wood debris or even small chips can get in past the jaws and into the internals and ruin them over time. The ER style collets fix that problem for the customer but create the next problem which is what I am trying to solve here. The hex shank qualties added are inexpensive and readily available toolign that is tried and tested industry-wide by others. Hmm ... perhaps you need someone with a EDM to make hex holes in the round ones in the ER collets. Make sure to align the corners of the hex with the front slots of the collets -- though this will still mean that the rear slots will be on the flats. (Assuming that the size you use has six front slots and six back ones. I'm upstairs, and my ER-25 collets are downstairs, so I don't know for sure.) Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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